Image 1 — Eli was not going close to Full power against Vasco in 1A
Image 2 — Eli was not going close to Full power against Vasco in 1A
Image 3 — Eli was not going close to Full power against Vasco in 1A

Eli was not going close to Full power against Vasco in 1A

Held back the whole fight. And not because he didn’t use True Animal instinct (claw), He held back even in Batons Mode as well

Evident when he can redirect Basement Hulk (despite having fatigue from letting vasco land hits on him) and Vasco even compares Brekdaks power to the same Basement hulk after taking a single hit from him

That same basement hulk who goo and warren believes has raw strength on par with Tom.

Eli allowed vasco to win.

u/Orede — 2 days ago

How can Pre Tapes Jerry beat Hudson

Hudson can endure SM punches from jaegwang, same punches that are “heavy” according to taesoo

An exhausted version of him all the way back in holidays can stop jichangs finishing blow on Daniel.

u/Orede — 23 days ago

Rereading Busan Vin Jin is grossly underrated

The fight that allied had against Jaegyeon. Each time jaegyeon switched opponents he got stronger

Was objectively at his weakest against vasco as he was literally losing to Vasco in a 1v1

1st image he amped himself enough to literally blitz vasco so badly vasco cannot even react to guard in time

So Jaegyeons raised his level there from getting mid diffed by RH + Strength Vasco to blitzing him

Zack has then reacted to this raised level jaegyeon who can blitz vasco and block his kick with not much difficulty at all

Jaegyeon then leaves zack and raises his level again to be an entire ONE shot tier above Base SB Daniel stemming from his own dialogue, who is verbatim stated as the strongest when at least compared to zack and vasco by jaegyeon himself

Daniel then starts to overwhelm him, so at this point, Jaegyeon is at the power level of an entire one shot tier above base SB Daniel (still somewhat fatigued from fighting jinrang) and slightly below heat mode SB daniel.

Vin then grabs jaegyeons arms, and its stated that ANY longer and vin wouldve shattered Jaegyeons arms completely. This is a jaegyeon who is above Base SB Daniel

Jaegyeon kicks vin away, but vin pretty much unbothered by any damage he could’ve received. And then proceeds to blitz jaegyeon 💀💀

Jaegyeon is looking straight at him, and vin closes the distance between him and jaegyeon so fast that jaegyeon cant even react to vin getting up behind him.

And this Vin was not using strength mastery once.

So hes capable of being milliseconds away from completely shattering a SB Daniel+ level Jaegyeon, enduring jaegyeons kick with no problems, and then blatantly blitzing jaegyeon as jaegyeon is looking directly at him and cant react.

He fought the strongest version if jaegyeon alongside heat mode daniel. Zack fought an entire tier weaker version and vasco fought a Jaegyeon who was holding back so much that he was outright getting mid diffed by vasco. And thats vasco at full power

Some uncomfortable convos need to be had

u/Orede — 25 days ago

The archive is dumb as shit, Jichang still has no mastery

Cheonliang, the arc where mastery is being constantly shown as the power system for PTJ where even the fodders who protect the shaman have mastery

Jichang who fights the kojimas

Hss exchanges with James

Fights Kitae

Didnt show a single mastery once in any attack.

The statement people use is holidays but all it does is say hes strong and fast. That doesnt equate to speed and strength, u can be fast and strong with no mastery hence daniel

Dunno y people so desperate to claim he has mastery as if it changes his scaling, if anything it makes him less impressive because that means he had to overcome a wall twice to be that strong

u/Orede — 25 days ago

Vasco (RH + Strength) vs Batons Eli (bloodlusted)

Is it just me or did batons eli get weaker. Bro peaked in hfg

u/Orede — 29 days ago

One of PTJ’s worst mistakes was killing him off

To this day is Daniel best parallel

u/Orede — 1 month ago