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Been long ZETA for a while. The Palantir deal (announced June 23) is what moved this from "good company" to a high-conviction hold for me and I don't think the market has priced the MECHANISM yet, just the headline. Here's how I think it actually accelerates the business, plus my valuation. Not advice, curious what you're all watching.

First, the base business is already strong (so none of this leans on Palantir):

- Revenue ~$1.0B (2024) → ~$1.3B (2025) → ~$1.8B guided (2026); ~28% organic.

- Adj. EBITDA +56% YoY, margin ~21% and expanding; FCF positive; GAAP net income just turned positive in Q2'26.

- Net revenue retention 120% (up from 114%).

- 20 consecutive "beat and raise" quarters literally every quarter since the 2021 IPO. They guide conservatively and beat, over and over.

Now the Palantir part, why it's an accelerant, not just a logo swap. Four things compound:

1. More, bigger, faster customers. Palantir works with ~870 commercial customers, some of the largest, most locked-down enterprises on earth. The partnership gives Zeta a warm path into that base: bigger logos, more of them, and faster than Zeta could reach on its own.
2. Near-instant implementation (the "one-click" part). Zeta is rebuilding its Data Cloud on Palantir Foundry. For companies already running on Foundry, the data foundation is ALREADY there, so Zeta can be switched on almost instantly instead of a months-long integration. Fast to land, fast to prove value.
3. Higher retention. Fast value + an outcome-based product (lifting ROAS from ~6–7× toward 10×) that sits inside the customer's core system = very sticky. Land-and-expand should push that 120% NRR even higher over time. Retention is the quiet compounder here.
4. A better product. The part I like most: Foundry gives Zeta the ONTOLOGY, the logic of the whole business, on top of its marketing intelligence. Put Zeta's owned data on 535M+ people + Palantir's ontology + Athena + proven outcomes together, and it's closer to an "intelligence layer" running on the client's core system than a marketing tool. That combination is hard for Google/Meta to copy because they don't have all of it in one place and every customer, campaign and outcome feeds back and makes it smarter. That's the flywheel.

The key point that ties all four together: Palantir doesn't just hand Zeta a one-time bucket of revenue, it lifts the growth RATE. More, bigger, stickier customers landing faster means the ~23–28% base growth can STEP UP toward the high-20s/30s for several years. And a higher, longer growth runway compounds into a much bigger 2031 revenue base and usually earns a higher multiple on top of that. That's the real prize here: accelerated revenue growth, not a single line item.

What it could mean in numbers (illustrative, not a forecast): Zeta earns ~$2.1M/yr from a scaled customer. It only takes ~5–6% of Palantir's ~870 customers to clear the company's own ">$100M" target. 10% ≈ ~$183M/yr (nearly double the target), 20% ≈ ~$365M, 30% ≈ $500M+ and layered on top of the base business, that's what pushes the overall growth rate up rather than just adding a side bucket.

And the valuation, quickly, so this isn't just a story:

- Grow revenue 23%/yr for 5y → ~$5.1B by 2031

- 20% net margin → ~$1.0B net income (not heroic for this type of business: system/application software runs ~25% net as a group per Damodaran; The Trade Desk already does ~15%; Zeta's EBITDA margin ~21% and rising faster than revenue)

- 25x P/E → ~$25B in 2031

- Discount back 15%/yr → ~$12.7B fair value today vs ~$8B market cap (~$32/sh) → ~$50/sh, ≈55% upside and that's BEFORE any Palantir contribution.

- Layer the Palantir upside on and project to 2031, and it's roughly a 3–4x over ~5 years.

Honest caveats (I'm long, not blind). Salesforce/Adobe/Google all want this market. The reason I can hold calmly: the base business compounds even if the Palantir piece is slow but Palantir gives it a Moat.

What are you watching for confirmation? For me: named enterprise clients live on the Foundry-based cloud, NRR climbing above 120%, and the first dollars of that $100M showing up in reported numbers.

Disclosure: long ZETA. Not investment advice. My own opinion, do your own DD.

A thesis I hold and want discusse. Not a recommendation. Zeta Global ($ZETA) is an AI marketing company; its edge is letting clients OWN their first-party customer data instead of only renting audiences from Google/Meta. What's interesting right now is the Palantir partnership and whether it actually accelerates the business or is just a headline.

The base business (so the thesis doesn't rest on Palantir):

- Revenue ~$1.0B (2024) → ~$1.3B (2025) → ~$1.8B guided (2026); ~28% organic.

- Adj. EBITDA +56% YoY, margin ~21% and rising; FCF positive; GAAP net income just turned positive in Q2'26.

- Net revenue retention 120% (up from 114%).

- 20 straight "beat and raise" quarters every quarter since the 2021 IPO. Conservative guidance, consistently beaten.

Why Palantir could accelerate REVENUE growth (not just add a one-off bucket):

- Distribution: a warm path into Palantir's ~870 commercial customers (large enterprises), bigger logos, more of them.

- Speed: Zeta is rebuilding its data cloud on Palantir Foundry; for companies already on Foundry it can be switched on almost instantly instead of a months-long integration. Faster land = faster revenue.

- Retention: an outcome-based product embedded in the customer's core system → stickier → NRR should climb from 120%.

- Better product: Foundry's ontology on top of Zeta's marketing data = closer to an "intelligence layer" than a marketing tool; harder for Google/Meta to copy.

Net effect: more/bigger/faster/stickier customers should lift the growth RATE for several years, which compounds that's the real prize, not a single line item.

Rough scale (illustrative, not a forecast): at ~$2.1M/yr per scaled customer, winning just ~5–6% of Palantir's ~870 customers clears the company's own ">$100M" target; 10% ≈ ~$183M/yr.

Valuation sanity check (not a target): grow 23%/yr for 5y → ~$5.1B revenue by 2031, 20% net margin (not heroic, system/application software ~25% net as a group, The Trade Desk ~15%, Zeta's EBITDA margin ~21% and rising), 25x P/E → ~$25B, discount back 15%/yr → ~$12.7B fair value today vs ~$8B market cap (~$32/sh) → ~$50/sh (~55% upside), before any Palantir contribution.

Risks (real): the $100M is guidance with a fuzzy timeline; deep re-platforming takes time; GAAP only just turned positive (watch SBC/dilution); ~87% of revenue is concentrated in "super-scaled" accounts; Salesforce/Adobe/Google compete here; and the valuation leans on sustaining ~23% growth + a 25x multiple.

What does the sub think, mainly. Does the Foundry "switch-on" actually shorten Zeta's enterprise sales cycle in practice, and are 20% net margins realistic at scale?

Disclosure: long ZETA. Not investment advice.

Been long ZETA for a while. The Palantir deal (announced June 23) is what moved this from "good company" to a high-conviction hold for me and I don't think the market has priced the MECHANISM yet, just the headline. Here's how I think it actually accelerates the business, plus my valuation. Not advice, curious what you're all watching.

First, the base business is already strong (so none of this leans on Palantir):

- Revenue ~$1.0B (2024) → ~$1.3B (2025) → ~$1.8B guided (2026); ~28% organic.

- Adj. EBITDA +56% YoY, margin ~21% and expanding; FCF positive; GAAP net income just turned positive in Q2'26.

- Net revenue retention 120% (up from 114%).

- 20 consecutive "beat and raise" quarters literally every quarter since the 2021 IPO. They guide conservatively and beat, over and over.

Now the Palantir part, why it's an accelerant, not just a logo swap. Four things compound:

1. More, bigger, faster customers. Palantir works with ~870 commercial customers, some of the largest, most locked-down enterprises on earth. The partnership gives Zeta a warm path into that base: bigger logos, more of them, and faster than Zeta could reach on its own.

2. Near-instant implementation (the "one-click" part). Zeta is rebuilding its Data Cloud on Palantir Foundry. For companies already running on Foundry, the data foundation is ALREADY there, so Zeta can be switched on almost instantly instead of a months-long integration. Fast to land, fast to prove value.

3. Higher retention. Fast value + an outcome-based product (lifting ROAS from ~6–7× toward 10×) that sits inside the customer's core system = very sticky. Land-and-expand should push that 120% NRR even higher over time. Retention is the quiet compounder here.

4. A better product. The part I like most: Foundry gives Zeta the ONTOLOGY, the logic of the whole business, on top of its marketing intelligence. Put Zeta's owned data on 535M+ people + Palantir's ontology + Athena + proven outcomes together, and it's closer to an "intelligence layer" running on the client's core system than a marketing tool. That combination is hard for Google/Meta to copy because they don't have all of it in one place and every customer, campaign and outcome feeds back and makes it smarter. That's the flywheel.

The key point that ties all four together: Palantir doesn't just hand Zeta a one-time bucket of revenue, it lifts the growth RATE. More, bigger, stickier customers landing faster means the ~23–28% base growth can STEP UP toward the high-20s/30s for several years. And a higher, longer growth runway compounds into a much bigger 2031 revenue base and usually earns a higher multiple on top of that. That's the real prize here: accelerated revenue growth, not a single line item.

What it could mean in numbers (illustrative, not a forecast): Zeta earns ~$2.1M/yr from a scaled customer. It only takes ~5–6% of Palantir's ~870 customers to clear the company's own ">$100M" target. 10% ≈ ~$183M/yr (nearly double the target), 20% ≈ ~$365M, 30% ≈ $500M+ and layered on top of the base business, that's what pushes the overall growth rate up rather than just adding a side bucket.

And the valuation, quickly, so this isn't just a story:

- Grow revenue 23%/yr for 5y → ~$5.1B by 2031

- 20% net margin → ~$1.0B net income (not heroic for this type of business: system/application software runs ~25% net as a group per Damodaran; The Trade Desk already does ~15%; Zeta's EBITDA margin ~21% and rising faster than revenue)

- 25x P/E → ~$25B in 2031

- Discount back 15%/yr → ~$12.7B fair value today vs ~$8B market cap (~$32/sh) → ~$50/sh, ≈55% upside and that's BEFORE any Palantir contribution.

- Layer the Palantir upside on and project to 2031, and it's roughly a 3–4x over ~5 years.

Honest caveats (I'm long, not blind). Salesforce/Adobe/Google all want this market. The reason I can hold calmly: the base business compounds even if the Palantir piece is slow but Palantir gives it a Moat.

What are you watching for confirmation? For me: named enterprise clients live on the Foundry-based cloud, NRR climbing above 120%, and the first dollars of that $100M showing up in reported numbers.

Disclosure: long ZETA. Not investment advice. My own opinion, do your own DD.

I've got a thesis I'm testing and I'd love this sub to poke holes in it.

 

Here's the irony: Palantir is one of the most expensive stocks on the market. Clearly not a value play, and I'm not pitching it as one. But I'd argue it might be a value investor's best friend. Not because you make money owning it but because the companies that use it are often the cheap, undervalued ones, and those are the ones that could quietly outperform the market.

 A lot of the interesting names here aren't Palantir itself they're its customers, and many are exactly what value investors look at: cheap, out-of-favor value plays. Some are outright turnarounds, but others are just quietly undervalued businesses the market underrates (Lumen, Hertz, Citi, Zeta, etc.).

 My argument: working with Palantir raises the probability that these undervalued names re-rate whether that's a turnaround finally turning, or an underappreciated business simply getting more profitable and growing faster than the market expects. Two reasons:

1. It builds the company a real-time "digital brain" (built WITH their own team) which tends to show up exactly where we care: efficiency gains, better inventory/ops, margin expansion, sometimes new revenue lines. More durable FCF, not just a story.

2. Its Customer First / Outcome First culture rubs off. There's almost a "mindset ceiling" effect — like the 4-minute mile: once one company proves the old limit was only in people's heads, the whole org starts operating at a new level. AI + a new mindset = a real shot at higher margins and growth, not just cost-cutting.

 The value setup: the market still discounts these names as broken. If the operational turn is real and shows up in the numbers, that gap closes quality/normalization bought at a discount, with a margin of safety if you're strict on price.

 Caveats (staying disciplined):

- It raises the odds, it does NOT guarantee. Buffett's "turnarounds seldom turn" still applies. Plenty will fail.

- Correlation ≠ causation; hard to prove Palantir caused a move.

- Software doesn't fix a broken business model or a bad product.

- Valuation still decides your return. Don't overpay for the narrative.

So "uses Palantir" is a screening lead, not a buy button.

 

Which Palantir customer looks most like a genuinely mispriced value play to you (turnaround or just underrated) and where do you think margins realistically go?

I've got a thesis an investing strategy I'm actually testing and I'm curious if anyone else has landed on the same idea.

 

Here it is: Palantir doesn't just sell software, it changes how a customer OPERATES.

 

Two things I keep coming back to:

1. It builds a company a real-time "digital brain" (the ontology) WITH the customer's own team, not just handed over.

2. Its whole culture is Customer First / Outcome First (famously "no salespeople", bootcamps, will walk away if there's no real result). That mindset seems to rub off on the people who work with them.

 

There's almost a "mindset ceiling" effect here. Like the 4-minute mile: for decades it was "impossible," then Bannister did it and suddenly a dozen runners followed. The limit was only in their heads. I think Palantir does the same to a company: once the people stop believing in the old limits, they start breaking their industry's ceiling.

 

That reframes the investing angle: instead of "is PLTR cheap?", ask "which PLTR customers just got a new brain + a new mindset and is the market underrating them?" (Airbus even spun Skywise into its own company; Merck KGaA built Syntropy.)

 

Honest caveat: this raises the odds, it doesn't guarantee anything. A bad product stays bad, and valuation still matters.

 

Which customer do you think is the most underrated right now?