u/Otherwise-Echo-6403

Why do Swifties constantly compare TTPD to Folklore and Evermore?

Two albums considered her best with a bloated, poorly written word vomit mess that tries to cram in as many metaphors as possible, without rhyme or reason. Just because in Taylor's mind metaphors = poetry.

TTPD constantly repeats itself to the point where half the songs could be removed and nothing would be lost, TTPD seems to have no focus or linearity, and has some of the worst lines I've heard in music. Not "Eldest Daughter" levels of bad writing, but pretty close. One praiseworthy thing I can say about TLOAS is that as bad as the lines as, they are nowhere near as clunky as the garbage on TTPD.

So High School might be one of the worst love songs ever written and is completely out of place with the aesthetic of the album (which is just ripping off Lana Del Rey. A usual occurrence for Taylor).

"Tattoo Golden Retriever" screams ChatGPT. "1830 without all the racists". "you take my ring off my middle finger and put it on the one people put wedding rings on". "Quick, quick, tell me something awful like you are a poet trapped inside the body of a finance guy".

All of the beats sound like generic ringtones and the album sounds like one long song because there's so little variation in the melodies. It's like both Jack and Taylor had deadlines, so they rushed out a first draft album and pressed it for release. I have a hard time believing they worked on TTPD for longer than 6 months.

I could go on listing all the lines that don't flow, that try too hard to evoke imagery but are too specific to be interesting, or the lines that are so odd you just raise an eyebrow while listening and think "is she high? The fuck is she on about?"

It shows me that Swifties have no taste, which was obvious since they stan Taylor.

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u/Otherwise-Echo-6403 — 4 days ago

2026 is the worst year for Taylor to receive songwriting accolades

While I think even her best work is subpar (Taylor is to songwriting what Nicholas Sparks is to literature) it would've made sense for her to be acknowledged for her songwriting in 2020. But in 2026? This is the worst possible time for her to be inducted into the hall of fame and be interviewed by NYT as one of the "30 greatest living American songwriters."

Her last decent album was Evermore. Midnights was a subpar album that we watched win AOTY and beat better, more critically acclaimed albums like SOS (90 on metacritic) and Guts (91 on metacritic). Truly a "Shakespeare in Love" moment.

TTPD and TLOAS are her two worst albums and contenders for worst albums of their respective years. TTPD is what every teenage girl was writing on tumblr back in 2014, except it feels like Taylor kept a second tab open for thesaurus dot com and a third tab open so she could type prompts into chatgpt. Showgirl was just a rushed mess, a first draft she called a finished product.

At this point, it seems like she's a novelty act being awarded for her older work and her best work (which was never great outside of the mainstream pop bubble) is behind her. If she can deliver another album that receives Universal acclaim like Folklore that's great. As of now, it seems like she's creatively at her worst and she shows no signs of improving. And why would she? She can record herself farting and receive four Grammy noms for it. Swifties will keep her on the charts and help her break records no matter what.

Taylor in 2026 isn't the writer of "All Too Well" or "The Lakes", (two good songs that get treated like masterpieces). In 2026, she's the writer of "eldest daughter", and "Thank you Aimee". She's regressed so much that TS13 will probably be written in crayon (I predict a 64 on Metacritic. Oh, and 3 Grammy nominations minimum).

The music industry is so interesting. Tortured Poets, which was critically panned, was nominated for AOTY and I'm sure TLOAS will be too. Matter of fact, I'm willing to bet Ophelia wins song of the year only because Taylor has never won it before and she's "overdue", and because it charted longer than her other songs. The fact Taylor won AOTY more than any artist (even beat To Pimp a Butterfly one year) just shows she's a Grammy darling. Colleen Hoover would never win a Pulitzer. Michael Bay will never win an Oscar nor would any of his movies be nominated for best picture. But no one in the music scene seems to cares about quality, they only care about popularity and sales.

That goes for Legends too. Nothing Taylor ever wrote will come close to Landslide, yet Stevie Nicks blows smoke up Taylor's ass and Swifties use it as proof that Taylor is a great songwriter. Even if Stevie called Taylor the best songwriter ever, and she would be entitled to her opinion, her opinion says nothing about quality. Taylor will never write or co-write something on the level of Yesterday, but because she hangs out with Paul McCarthy Swifties think that means something (I wish John Lennon was alive, because he was so snarky and I'd love to get his opinion on Taylor). It just feels like older folks are desperate to be seen as cool and they think loving whatever is popular is the way to go about it. Of course, Swifties ignore Aretha Franklin and Joni Mitchell's comments, or they trash those legends, but I digress.

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u/Otherwise-Echo-6403 — 5 days ago

Everyone forgot Taylor Swift portrayed Travis Kelce as a rebound on The Tortured Poets Department

Sorry for the odd title, but using full names helps with SEO.

I know this has been mentioned a lot, but we must keep in mind A) An album takes 6 months to press. Taylor announced TTPD in February 2024 for April, yet there were Travis songs on the album, meaning she was still working on it as late as October, so she had been in a relationship for a month or two and still decided to leave all of those songs on the album when she sent it to be pressed. B) The Anthology was digital, meaning she could have removed any of those songs as late as April 18th, about 7 months into her relationship with a man who is so important to her that she talked about in her Person of the year interview.

imgonnagetyouback references fallingforyou by The 1975. It was released on the digital anthology album. In the song she says:

Say you got somebody, I'll say, "I got someone too"
Even if it's handcuffed, I'm leaving here with you

Again, I'll remind you: regardless of when she wrote this song, she could have removed it on April 18th. She was comfortable putting this out for the world to hear and for the possibility of Matty to hear it. It would be understandable if her relationship was brand new, but at the time Travis was her third longest public relationship.

It's worth noting that Taylor references a "lilac short skirt", and wears that exact type of skirt in a video where she "shows off" Travis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1hrx41c/the_lilac_short_skirt_in_taylors_fortnight/

What exactly is the point of making a imgonnagetyouback reference while holding a KC paddle?

A lot of people claim Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus references the past and the lines I'm about to quote references Calvin Harris, but I don't see evidence for it.

And you saw my bones out with somebody new
Who seemed like he would've bullied you in school
And you just watched it happen

Even Genius dot com says this line likely references Travis being a jock. There's a stereotype that jocks are bullies. People say "bones" references when she was struggling with an ED, but I think they are reading too much into it.

In loml, she says:

Who's gonna stop us from waltzing back into rekindled flames
If we know the steps anyway?

And then you have a song like the Black Dog, which is hilarious considering she was caught (allegedly) watching a Joe Alwyn fan page at the beginning of 2025.

https://www.reddit.com/r/travisandtaylor/comments/1qepkze/do_you_guys_remember_when_taylor_got_caught/

Again, there was no reason for her to keep this song on the album 7 months into her relationship unless she wanted her ex to know she's watching him.

We should keep in mind that TTPD is a mess. There is no linearity, so it's possible imgonnagetyouback was written after The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived. We don't know what she did or didn't write while she was with Travis.

TTPD aside, it's even weirder that almost a year into her relationship with Travis (while she was making TLOAS, which heavily references her exes more than most past albums like Reputation and Lover) she was breaking down while performing mashups at the eras tour in 2024.

It seemed for about a year Travis Kelce was a placeholder for Joe Alwyn or Matty Healy (or both) and then, as Taylor always does, she tried to change the narrative in TLOAS by saying Travis is so much better than her exes by comparing him to her exes. It's odd considering a lot of songs about Joe (as early as Reputation) were actually focused on Joe and there wasn't a heavy reliance on comparing him to others like Taylor does in Honey, Wi$h Li$t, Fate of Ophelia, and Opalite.

So now that they're engaged, Taylor is telling the world that Travis is "the love of her life", and she's trying to add him to her brand. And when they divorce in 2029, she'll convince the public that Travis did something wrong and the true love of her life is her second husband. And when she and her second husband divorce in 2033, she'll convince the public that her second husband...

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u/Otherwise-Echo-6403 — 8 days ago