u/OtiesBotanicals302

Hey everyone. We are getting absolutely crushed in this poll. Last time I checked we were at 7%. Please spare 30 seconds to complete it. It's at the very bottom below the ads

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/6126476-grassley-urges-trump-kratom-rule/?fbclid=IwdGRjcAUtNf9jbGNrBS01\_GV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHBkb2YBc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMzUwNjg1NTMxNzI4AAEeeQYYZJgwtlPQ1HtiLMkBQhG\_DCKmgHon5dJdet20tdHnzCTImrQpPHT\_MBk\_aem\_lqcwVOh3WV\_7CecEvoX2WA

I know everyone is exhausted from all of this. I am too. But we have to keep going. North Dakota is in a dire situation and we really need to help them. Even if you do not live in North Dakota, this spreads. Going to paste a message down below. Please help them.

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🚨 North Dakota needs our help right now.

During the September 2 hearings in Bismarck, lawmakers pushed the discussion away from responsible kratom regulation and toward scheduling natural kratom and banning ALL kratom products in North Dakota.

Despite legislation offering a path toward responsible consumer protections, the voices of kratom consumers and experts supporting appropriate regulation were ignored, omitted, or overshadowed.

We cannot allow that to be the final word.

North Dakota lawmakers need to hear from kratom consumers across the country who understand why regulation — not prohibition — is the responsible approach.

🚨 TAKE ACTION NOW

👉 Go to https://www.protectkratom.org/northdakota?emci=a6140c1f-15a7-f111-9b33-0022482a933b&emdi=cbb84f36-18a7-f111-9b33-0022482a933b&ceid=3315642

Use the form to contact North Dakota legislators and tell them:

✅ Support responsible kratom consumer protection

❌ Do NOT schedule natural kratom

❌ Do NOT enact a full ban on kratom products

Most importantly, PERSONALIZE THE MESSAGE.

Tell lawmakers why protecting access to responsibly manufactured natural kratom matters to you. Share your story. Explain why consumers deserve reasonable safeguards and product standards instead of criminalization and prohibition.

Even if you don't live in North Dakota, please help our northern neighbors.

A kratom ban in one state doesn't just affect the people who live there. Every state that chooses prohibition instead of responsible regulation can influence what happens elsewhere.

🌿 NORTH DAKOTA CONSUMERS NEED US TO STAND WITH THEM

Here is a list of lawmakers with their email addresses

Senate 7 R Senator Michelle Axtman maxtman@ndlegis.gov

Senate 43 R Senator Jeff Barta jbarta@ndlegis.gov

Senate 23 R Senator Todd Beard tbeard@ndlegis.gov

Senate 1 R Senator Brad Bekkedahl bbekkedahl@ndlegis.gov

Senate 33 R Senator Keith Boehm kboehm@ndlegis.gov

Senate 10 D Senator Ryan Braunberger rbraunberger@ndlegis.gov

Senate 5 R Senator Randy A. Burckhard raburckhard@ndlegis.gov

Senate 40 R Senator Jose L. Castaneda jcastaneda@ndlegis.gov

Senate 35 R Senator Sean Cleary scleary@ndlegis.gov

Senate 16 R Senator David A. Clemens dclemens@ndlegis.gov

Senate 12 R Senator Cole Conley cconley@ndlegis.gov

Senate 42 R Senator Claire Cory clairecory@ndlegis.gov

Senate 41 R Senator Kyle Davison kdavison@ndlegis.gov

Senate 32 R Senator Dick Dever ddever@ndlegis.gov

Senate 47 R Senator Michael Dwyer mdwyer@ndlegis.gov

Senate 2 R Senator Mark Enget menget@ndlegis.gov

Senate 28 R Senator Robert Erbele rerbele@ndlegis.gov

Senate 34 R Senator Justin Gerhardt jgerhardt@ndlegis.gov

Senate 21 D Senator Kathy Hogan khogan@ndlegis.gov

Senate 38 R Senator David Hogue dhogue@ndlegis.gov

Senate 39 R Senator Greg Kessel gkessel@ndlegis.gov

Senate 14 R Senator Jerry Klein jklein@ndlegis.gov

Senate 30 R Senator Diane Larson dlarson@ndlegis.gov

Senate 13 R Senator Judy Lee jlee@ndlegis.gov

Senate 20 R Senator Randy D. Lemm rlemm@ndlegis.gov

Senate 25 R Senator Larry Luick lluick@ndlegis.gov

Senate 8 R Senator Jeffery J. Magrum jmagrum@ndlegis.gov

Senate 9 D Senator Richard Marcellais rmarcellais@ndlegis.gov

Senate 11 D Senator Tim Mathern tmathern@ndlegis.gov

Senate 18 R Senator Scott Meyer scottmeyer@ndlegis.gov

Senate 19 R Senator Janne Myrdal jmyrdal@ndlegis.gov

Senate 26 R Senator Dale Patten dpatten@ndlegis.gov

Senate 3 R Senator Bob Paulson bpaulson@ndlegis.gov

Senate 46 R Senator Michelle Powers mpowers@ndlegis.gov

Senate 27 R Senator Kristin Roers kroers@ndlegis.gov

Senate 37 R Senator Dean Rummel drummel@ndlegis.gov

Senate 31 R Senator Donald Schaible dgschaible@ndlegis.gov

Senate 44 D Senator Jamie Selzler jselzler@ndlegis.gov

Senate 17 R Senator Jonathan Sickler jlsickler@ndlegis.gov

Senate 45 R Senator Ronald Sorvaag rsorvaag@ndlegis.gov

Senate 6 R Senator Paul J. Thomas paulthomas@ndlegis.gov

Senate 36 R Senator Desiree van Oosting dvanoosting@ndlegis.gov

Senate 4 R Senator Chuck Walen cwalen@ndlegis.gov

Senate 29 R Senator Terry M. Wanzek tmwanzek@ndlegis.gov

Senate 22 R Senator Mark F. Weber markweber@ndlegis.gov

Senate 15 R Senator Kent Weston kweston@ndlegis.gov

Senate 24 R Senator Mike Wobbema mwobbema@ndlegis.gov

House 2 R Representative Bert Anderson bertanderson@ndlegis.gov

House 6 R Representative Dick Anderson dickanderson@ndlegis.gov

House 19 R Representative Karen A. Anderson kanderson@ndlegis.gov

House 17 R Representative Landon Bahl lbahl@ndlegis.gov

House 20 R Representative Mike Beltz mbeltz@ndlegis.gov

House 8 R Representative Mike Berg mberg@ndlegis.gov

House 40 R Representative Macy Bolinske mbolinske@ndlegis.gov

House 30 R Representative Glenn Bosch gdbosch@ndlegis.gov

House 28 R Representative Mike Brandenburg mbrandenburg@ndlegis.gov

House 9 D Representative Collette Brown cbrown@ndlegis.gov

House 27 R Representative TJ Brown tbrown@ndlegis.gov

House 18 R Representative Nels Christianson nchristianson@ndlegis.gov

House 9 D Representative Jayme Davis jdavis@ndlegis.gov

House 11 D Representative Gretchen Dobervich gdobervich@ndlegis.gov

House 7 R Representative Jason Dockter jddockter@ndlegis.gov

House 36 R Representative Ty Dressler tdressler@ndlegis.gov

House 4B R Representative Clayton Fegley cfegley@ndlegis.gov

House 4A D Representative Lisa Finley-DeVille lfinleydeville@ndlegis.gov

House 5 R Representative Jay Fisher jayfisher@ndlegis.gov

House 44 D Representative Austin Foss afoss@ndlegis.gov

House 15 R Representative Kathy Frelich kfrelich@ndlegis.gov

House 11 D Representative Adam Goldwyn agoldwyn@ndlegis.gov

House 41 R Representative Karen Grindberg kgrindberg@ndlegis.gov

House 28 R Representative Jim Grueneich jgrueneich@ndlegis.gov

House 21 D Representative LaurieBeth Hager lbhager@ndlegis.gov

House 44 D Representative Karla Rose Hanson krhanson@ndlegis.gov

House 1 R Representative Patrick R. Hatlestad phatlestad@ndlegis.gov

House 36 R Representative Dori Hauck dorihauck@ndlegis.gov

House 29 R Representative Craig Headland cheadland@ndlegis.gov

House 7 R Representative Matthew Heilman mheilman@ndlegis.gov

House 32 R Representative Pat D. Heinert pdheinert@ndlegis.gov

House 15 R Representative Donna Henderson dhenderson@ndlegis.gov

House 10 R Representative Jared Hendrix jhendrix@ndlegis.gov

House 31 R Representative Dawson Holle dholle@ndlegis.gov

House 3 R Representative Jeff Hoverson jahoverson@ndlegis.gov

House 43 D Representative Zachary Ista zmista@ndlegis.gov

House 41 R Representative Jorin Johnson jjohnson@ndlegis.gov

House 24 R Representative Daniel Johnston djohnston@ndlegis.gov

House 13 R Representative Jim Jonas jjonas@ndlegis.gov

House 35 R Representative Karen Karls kkarls@ndlegis.gov

House 46 R Representative Jim Kasper jkasper@ndlegis.gov

House 39 R Representative Keith Kempenich kkempenich@ndlegis.gov

House 24 R Representative Dwight Kiefert dhkiefert@ndlegis.gov

House 47 R Representative Lawrence R. Klemin lklemin@ndlegis.gov

House 16 R Representative Ben Koppelman bkoppelman@ndlegis.gov

House 37 R Representative Mike Lefor mlefor@ndlegis.gov

House 2 R Representative Donald W. Longmuir dlongmuir@ndlegis.gov

House 5 R Representative Scott Louser slouser@ndlegis.gov

House 26 R Representative Roger A. Maki rmaki@ndlegis.gov

House 16 R Representative Andrew Marschall amarschall@ndlegis.gov

House 35 R Representative Bob Martinson bmartinson@ndlegis.gov

House 45 R Representative Carrie McLeod cmcleod@ndlegis.gov

House 42 R Representative Dustin McNally dmcnally@ndlegis.gov

House 32 R Representative Lisa Meier lmeier@ndlegis.gov

House 25 D Representative Alisa Mitskog amitskog@ndlegis.gov

House 19 R Representative David Monson dmonson@ndlegis.gov

House 46 R Representative Desiree Morton dmorton@ndlegis.gov

House 47 R Representative Mike Motschenbacher mmotschenbacher@ndlegis.gov

House 43 R Representative Eric J. Murphy emurphy@ndlegis.gov

House 30 R Representative Mike Nathe mrnathe@ndlegis.gov

House 23 R Representative Dennis Nehring denehring@ndlegis.gov

House 14 R Representative Jon O. Nelson jonelson@ndlegis.gov

House 33 R Representative Anna S. Novak anovak@ndlegis.gov

House 8 R Representative SuAnn Olson solson@ndlegis.gov

House 42 R Representative Doug Osowski dosowski@ndlegis.gov

House 12 R Representative Mitch Ostlie mostlie@ndlegis.gov

House 34 R Representative Todd Porter tkporter@ndlegis.gov

House 22 R Representative Brandy L. Pyle bpyle@ndlegis.gov

House 1 R Representative David Richter dwrichter@ndlegis.gov

House 23 R Representative Nico Rios nrios@ndlegis.gov

House 31 R Representative Karen M. Rohr kmrohr@ndlegis.gov

House 38 R Representative Dan Ruby druby@ndlegis.gov

House 40 R Representative Matthew Ruby mruby@ndlegis.gov

House 20 R Representative Dave Rustebakke drustebakke@ndlegis.gov

House 17 R Representative Mark Sanford masanford@ndlegis.gov

House 12 R Representative Bernie Satrom blsatrom@ndlegis.gov

House 39 R Representative Mike Schatz mischatz@ndlegis.gov

House 13 R Representative Austen Schauer aschauer@ndlegis.gov

House 21 D Representative Mary Schneider mschneider@ndlegis.gov

House 25 R Representative Kathy Skroch kskroch@ndlegis.gov

House 37 R Representative Vicky Steiner vsteiner@ndlegis.gov

House 27 R Representative Gregory Stemen gstemen@ndlegis.gov

House 10 R Representative Steve Swiontek sswiontek@ndlegis.gov

House 26 R Representative Kelby Timmons ktimmons@ndlegis.gov

House 34 R Representative Nathan Toman nptoman@ndlegis.gov

House 33 R Representative Bill Tveit btveit@ndlegis.gov

House 3 R Representative Lori VanWinkle lvanwinkle@ndlegis.gov

House 18 R Representative Steve Vetter smvetter@ndlegis.gov

House 29 R Representative Don Vigesaa dwvigesaa@ndlegis.gov

House 6 R Representative Daniel R. Vollmer dvollmer@ndlegis.gov

House 45 R Representative Scott Wagner swagner@ndlegis.gov

House 22 R Representative Jonathan Warrey jwarrey@ndlegis.gov

House 14 R Representative Robin Weisz rweisz@ndlegis.gov

House 38 R Representative Christina Wolff cwolff@ndlegis.gov

HERE IS A BCC LIST

maxtman@ndlegis.gov; jbarta@ndlegis.gov; tbeard@ndlegis.gov; bbekkedahl@ndlegis.gov; kboehm@ndlegis.gov; rbraunberger@ndlegis.gov; raburckhard@ndlegis.gov; jcastaneda@ndlegis.gov; scleary@ndlegis.gov; dclemens@ndlegis.gov; cconley@ndlegis.gov; clairecory@ndlegis.gov; kdavison@ndlegis.gov; ddever@ndlegis.gov; mdwyer@ndlegis.gov; menget@ndlegis.gov; rerbele@ndlegis.gov; jgerhardt@ndlegis.gov; khogan@ndlegis.gov; dhogue@ndlegis.gov; gkessel@ndlegis.gov; jklein@ndlegis.gov; dlarson@ndlegis.gov; jlee@ndlegis.gov; rlemm@ndlegis.gov; lluick@ndlegis.gov; jmagrum@ndlegis.gov; rmarcellais@ndlegis.gov; tmathern@ndlegis.gov; scottmeyer@ndlegis.gov; jmyrdal@ndlegis.gov; dpatten@ndlegis.gov; bpaulson@ndlegis.gov; mpowers@ndlegis.gov; kroers@ndlegis.gov; drummel@ndlegis.gov; dgschaible@ndlegis.gov; jselzler@ndlegis.gov; jlsickler@ndlegis.gov; rsorvaag@ndlegis.gov; paulthomas@ndlegis.gov; dvanoosting@ndlegis.gov; cwalen@ndlegis.gov; tmwanzek@ndlegis.gov; markweber@ndlegis.gov; kweston@ndlegis.gov; mwobbema@ndlegis.gov; bertanderson@ndlegis.gov; dickanderson@ndlegis.gov; kanderson@ndlegis.gov; lbahl@ndlegis.gov; mbeltz@ndlegis.gov; mberg@ndlegis.gov; mbolinske@ndlegis.gov; gdbosch@ndlegis.gov; mbrandenburg@ndlegis.gov; cbrown@ndlegis.gov; tbrown@ndlegis.gov; nchristianson@ndlegis.gov; jdavis@ndlegis.gov; gdobervich@ndlegis.gov; jddockter@ndlegis.gov; tdressler@ndlegis.gov; cfegley@ndlegis.gov; lfinleydeville@ndlegis.gov; jayfisher@ndlegis.gov; afoss@ndlegis.gov; kfrelich@ndlegis.gov; agoldwyn@ndlegis.gov; kgrindberg@ndlegis.gov; jgrueneich@ndlegis.gov; lbhager@ndlegis.gov; krhanson@ndlegis.gov; phatlestad@ndlegis.gov; dorihauck@ndlegis.gov; cheadland@ndlegis.gov; mheilman@ndlegis.gov; pdheinert@ndlegis.gov; dhenderson@ndlegis.gov; jhendrix@ndlegis.gov; dholle@ndlegis.gov; jahoverson@ndlegis.gov; zmista@ndlegis.gov; jjohnson@ndlegis.gov; djohnston@ndlegis.gov; jjonas@ndlegis.gov; kkarls@ndlegis.gov; jkasper@ndlegis.gov; kkempenich@ndlegis.gov; dhkiefert@ndlegis.gov; lklemin@ndlegis.gov; bkoppelman@ndlegis.gov; mlefor@ndlegis.gov; dlongmuir@ndlegis.gov; dlouser@ndlegis.gov; rmaki@ndlegis.gov; amarschall@ndlegis.gov; bmartinson@ndlegis.gov; cmcleod@ndlegis.gov; dmcnally@ndlegis.gov; lmeier@ndlegis.gov; amitskog@ndlegis.gov; dmonson@ndlegis.gov; dmorton@ndlegis.gov; mmotschenbacher@ndlegis.gov; emurphy@ndlegis.gov; mrnathe@ndlegis.gov; denehring@ndlegis.gov; jonelson@ndlegis.gov; anovak@ndlegis.gov; solson@ndlegis.gov; dosowski@ndlegis.gov; mostlie@ndlegis.gov; tkporter@ndlegis.gov; bpyle@ndlegis.gov; dwrichter@ndlegis.gov; nrios@ndlegis.gov; kmrohr@ndlegis.gov; druby@ndlegis.gov; mruby@ndlegis.gov; drustebakke@ndlegis.gov; masanford@ndlegis.gov; blsatrom@ndlegis.gov; mischatz@ndlegis.gov; aschauer@ndlegis.gov; mschneider@ndlegis.gov; kskroch@ndlegis.gov; vsteiner@ndlegis.gov; gstemen@ndlegis.gov; sswiontek@ndlegis.gov; ktimmons@ndlegis.gov; nptoman@ndlegis.gov; btveit@ndlegis.gov; lvanwinkle@ndlegis.gov; smvetter@ndlegis.gov; dwvigesaa@ndlegis.gov; dvollmer@ndlegis.gov; swagner@ndlegis.gov; jwarrey@ndlegis.gov; rweisz@ndlegis.gov; cwolff@ndlegis.gov

 

🚨 NORTH DAKOTA KR@TOM ADVOCATES — ACTION NEEDED! 🚨

North Dakota’s kr@tom ban is currently in effect, but lawmakers are considering two different bills during the special session:

✅ One bill would ban synthetics and semi-synthetics

✅ The other would establish regulations for natural kr@tom — including things like age limits, testing and labeling — instead of keeping the blanket ban.

📍 SEPT. 1 — PUBLIC TESTIMONY

North Dakota State Capitol, Bismarck

9:00 AM CDT

📍 SEPT. 2 — VOTE ON THE BILLS

North Dakota State Capitol, Bismarck

9:00 AM CDT

Please show up if you can and CONTACT LEGISLATURES. It only takes about 3 minutes. Tell them your story and why you support regulating pure leaf instead of banning it. CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESSES IN THE COMMENTS

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You can and should submit public testimony as well through the North Dakota website. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. This is for the public record. I believe these get reas at the actual hearing. It's important One of the Senators made this quick YouTube video on how. This should only take about 5 minutes.

https://youtu.be/0hQ5K7prHcQ?si=ufXy4zryYAdSbD-0

Here is a link to the flyer itself

https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aaid:sc:US:02ec32ae-3bb9-418d-a19b-81ee6e91d103

For the next couple of weeks we will be donating a portion of our proceeds to help fight this utterly absurd Kratom ban in Massachusetts.

If you want to know how you can donate, let me know and I can point you in the right direction. I don't want to put the information out in the open. Every little bit helps!

Thanks!

Kratom Advocate,

Today, Governor Maura Healey announced that the Massachusetts Department of Public Health has issued an emergency order placing all forms of kr@tom — including safe, natural kr@tom leaf products — into Schedule I under Massachusetts law. The order takes effect after a 14-day notice period and can remain in place for up to a year.

Let's be clear about what just happened. The federal government recently took targeted action against dangerous, chemically manipulated 7-OH products while explicitly protecting natural kr@tom leaf. That's what science-based policy looks like.

Massachusetts has ignored that distinction entirely.

This order criminalizes the natural kr@tom leaf products that tens of thousands of Massachusetts consumers use safely and responsibly every day. It won't remove dangerous products from communities — it will simply hand the entire market to unregulated, untested illicit sellers while punishing responsible consumers.

We've seen this playbook before, and we know how to fight it: with your voices and your stories.

HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO TODAY:

➤ TAKE ACTION NOW on the Massachusetts Protect Kr@tom Page:

click here

Using that page you can

- Contact Governor Healey and DPH Commissioner Goldstein. Tell them you oppose the scheduling and criminalization of natural kr@tom leaf products — and urge them to narrow the order to target chemically manipulated 7-OH products, the real threat.

Also you can Governor Healey's Constituent Services Main Office Governor Healey's Constituent Services Main Office at (617) 725-4005

- Contact your Massachusetts state legislators. Urge them to pass the Kr@tom Consumer Protection Act — real regulation with product testing, labeling requirements, and age restrictions — instead of prohibition.

- Share your story. Nothing moves officials like hearing directly from the people this ban will hurt. Tell them how natural kr@tom has helped you and what losing legal access would mean for you and your family. Your story is your most powerful tool.

The clock is running. Once this order takes effect, Massachusetts consumers lose legal access to natural kr@tom — and the fight gets much harder. The next 14 days matter.

Massachusetts advocates: this is your moment. Advocates everywhere else: Massachusetts consumers need you standing with them — and your state could be next.

Thank you for standing with us and with kr@tom consumers across the Commonwealth for freedom and science-based regulation.

Here is a link to the actual gkc flyer

Click here

Yesterday the South Carolina House adopted amendments to H.4641 that puts natural kratom at risk. The Representatives testimony would lead you to believe that they are in support of natural kratom and against dangerous synthetic drugs, but the language of the bill is unclear.  We ask that advocates reach out to the Senate Medical Affairs Subcommittee in advance of next Wednesday's hearing and voice your objections.

 Further, if you are in South Carolina and available next Wednesday to testify against banning natural kratom in South Carolina, please register by Monday, May 4th at 12:00 pm here:

https://forms.gle/Qzfd3dNoSzoVdfTw9

Written remarks may also be sent to the committee here:

smedicomm@scsenate.gov (please use bill # in subject line)

"I am writing in regard to H.4641. While testimony in the House on H.4641 seemed to indicate an intent to ban synthetics and keep natural kratom legal and regulated, the amendments to H.4641 threaten both natural kratom and its consumers in South Carolina. Natural kratom has been used safely around the world for centuries and in the U.S. for decades. 

[PERSONAL STORY OF KR@TOM USE].

I opposed dangerous synthetic drugs like 7-OH that have confused the regulation of safe, natural botanicals.  Please oppose H.4641 or amend it to keep natural kratom legal in South Carolina

We (AKA) want to share an important update on the current state of kratom advocacy efforts across the country.

First, know this: the American Kratom Association (AKA) remains fully engaged in fighting for consumers. Our team continues to work around the clock—meeting with lawmakers, correcting misinformation, and pushing for responsible regulation over criminalization. We're making progress in Minnesota, Illinois, Ohio, and others. 

However, we want to be candid about where all bans stand.

Challenging Developments

Despite extraordinary efforts from advocates like you, along with relentless lobbying and education campaigns: Tennessee, Kentucky, and Kansas all appear poised to move forward with kratom bans.

Kentucky’s ban is unlikely to take effect this year, which gives us time to continue working toward a reversal.

Kansas remains uncertain, but indications suggest the bill may still be signed. Tennessee is the most determined to ban.

This is deeply unfair and harmful for residents in these states, and we share your frustration. These outcomes do not reflect the science, nor the voices of responsible consumers.

The fight is not over. The AKA is already working on strategies to reverse these decisions and protect access in the long term.

👉 We still strongly encourage advocates in these states to contact their governors’ offices. Even when outcomes appear likely, continued pressure matters and helps shape future efforts.

Kansas: https://www.protectkratom.org/kansas

Kentucky: https://www.protectkratom.org/kentucky

Tennessee: https://www.protectkratom.org/tenn

 

🚨 Michigan: Immediate Action Needed

Michigan is now one of the most critical battlegrounds.

As you likely know by now a ban bill has passed the House and is now in the State Senate. Negative media attention is increasing support for a ban so we need to keep telling Senators the truth about kratom consumers.

This is where we can stop it.

👉 If you are a Michigan resident:

Call your State Senator’s office directly (this is especially impactful)

Everyone can send a message here

Additional State Updates

The AKA is actively monitoring and engaging in several other states, including: Arizona, Iowa, South Carolina and many other states where ban proposals have surfaced.

At this time, none of these efforts appear likely to advance, but we remain vigilant and prepared to act quickly if that changes.

Help Michigan here (For some reason it won't let me hyperlink)

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https://www.protectkratom.org/michigan?emci=c93aa85d-2243-f111-8ef2-000d3a14b640&emdi=68802f3e-2b43-f111-8ef2-000d3a14b640&ceid=4607198