r/kratom

Been a daily user since 2019. Just started taking metamucil a few days ago AND GAWD DAYUM. Let's just say I'm extremely happy with the results and can't believe I haven't tried this sooner. I've literally been shitting dehydrated bon bons for YEARS. 😭 I've been dealing with acute constipation from the Kratom that was causing frequent sciatic nerve pain and overnight, that disappeared.

All in all, would recommend 💯 to anyone experiencing similar problems.

Regular powder, and caps. MiT shots, all being pulled off shelves. Both bans explicitly state plain leaf and MiT is fine. Something else is going on. Someone opened up a can of worms.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2026/06/10/2026-11602/hhs-request-for-comment-on-chronic-disease-of-addiction

If you have struggled with addiction in your life or know someone who has, the HHS wants to know how you or a loved one has fought your battle..

***The purpose of this RFI is to identify research, programs, and policies that have been successful and recommend novel policy ideas and gaps in research that could be addressed and implemented to further the Great American Recovery***

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So I've been on this subreddit for ages. Even after I've stopped kratom, I think it's important that people have access to it. I know how much it helps people. And there's been one thing about the lawmaking that has worried me to no end. I wanted to see if anyone else had the same worry.

It was MGM-15 and MGM-16. I've known about these for awhile now. And I was worried that if they only banned 7-OH, we would just be in the same place as now. I feel that local legislators would have gotten annoyed that new things kept popping up, and they sentiment to ban regular kratom would eventually take over.

And like clockwork, the 7-OH suppliers have already started switching to MGM-16. They likely didn't anticipate that the feds would also ban those and expect that it would be a wide open loophole. And then it would be some goofy whack-a-mole thing, and the local governments would lose their patience.

Hitting them all at once was a very smart move.

I do worry about other analogues and synthetic bastardized things popping up. Even with 7-OH, it can turn into 8-OH and 11-OH, which is part of why 7-OH is dangerous. There's always going to be an attempt to make new things to sell. The only thing that will keep regular kratom safe is that it's normalized into society. I think the AKA needs to work on regulation across the states. And maybe also labeling of products. Because people hate those tacky kratom signs and all of that. I want regular kratom to stick around. It helps so, so many people.

Anyway, I was just curious if this was on the back of anyone else's mind the past few months.

P.S.: Let's not make fun of the 7-OH people. Yeah they're annoying. They can't spell. They go on weird tangents that are conspiratorial and have no grounding in real life. But they're people. And maybe they can realize after awhile that maybe it was a bit crazy to think 7-OH would ever remain legal to buy at stores. Maybe some of them will land back on regular kratom and watch their bank accounts go back up. Either way, stay strong guys. I know that withdrawal from that stuff can't be easy.

And a media label that got it right

Because some folks have expressed concern:

Last night I pulled 80 lab reports from a handful of vendors from very large ones to small batch "cottage" operations across all color types. They were picked based on the accessibility of lab reports. Two vendors were not considered because they did not have lab reports accessible on their website.

No 7-HMG levels in the botanical product samples exceeded 0.0184%, by dry weight basis. The average was 0.00566% (almost 10 times below the limit) with a standard deviation of 0.00368%. This does not prove that they cannot exist, though I'm increasingly doubtful, just that I could not find one.

11 of 80 samples were below the limit of quantification (most common for "reds"), which varied by lab, but was never higher than 0.010%, and in many cases below 0.001%.

This was below the pending scheduling action that sets a threshold at 0.05%.

There was no significant correlation between shelf 7-HMG levels and mitragynine levels (r=-0.007, n=80).

I am not writing this to advocate for or against the scheduling action (in this post) and my only intention is to report my findings to the community.

Other information collected:

Average mitragynine: 1.31% (range: 0.62% to 1.73%).

Notes:

A larger sample is always better. I stopped at 80 because I had not seen any samples exceeding the threshold, and only 7 (of 80) were 0.010% or higher and time constraints.

I have forgotten about a bag of opened kratom powder I have that was kept in a dark place (not cool but no direct sunlight). The kratom was packaged in 2024 in a clear plastic vacuum sealed package and I opened it one year ago. Then I closed it using a clipper, so it was not air tight for about a year. Do you think, would it be safe to eat?

And is drinking lots of water necessary ?

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I’ve been using kratom 3-6 times a week for the past 2 months, and my typical dose is 2-4 teaspoons at a time. I don’t have a scale to measure it, and read that a teaspoon of kratom powder is equivalent to roughly 2-2.5 grams. Based on that info, the most I’ve ever taken in a day was about 10 grams, maybe slightly more if it was a heavy spoonful. Fortunately, I have yet to experience any withdrawal symptoms on the days I go without it, despite using it multiple days in a row and up to 6 days a week. The biggest deterrent to me taking kratom is I can’t stand the taste of it. I’ve taken capsules before, but noticed the effects are less intense and take much longer to kick in, plus they are significantly more expensive, so I’ve stuck to using powder. I typically just mix it into water and chug it as fast a possible. I’ve tried the toss and wash method once and it left a disgusting taste in my mouth and feeling in my throat. I’ve read plenty posts from people claiming to consume very high doses (30-80 grams) daily, and I’m left with the question: how does one even consume that much powder? It would be easier to take capsules, but most I’ve seen contain only half a gram each and I can’t imagine somebody taking 50+ capsules daily. For anyone that uses kratom in large doses, what’s your preferred method of consumption?

Is anyone else worried that even natural Kratom will be taken off the shelves (at least for a little while) because of the federal ban. I can definitely see them doing this out of ignorance and not knowing the percentages.

How terrified should I be right now about this ban? Is my life completely ruined?

Watch the replay. We cover North Carolina, Michigan, California, Tennessee, DEA 7OH Scheduling on what to expect, and more.

https://www.youtube.com/live/NoD1pWTw4nU?is=YioJGOlrFGIqOmtl

Basically as the title reads. I used plain leaf kratom daily for several years and it improved my life dramatically. I feel like I let my time spent pursuing higher potency elsewhere rob me of what I love about kratom. Now, it might take some time for it to have the same familiar effects, but I have missed it. Does anyone else feel this way, especially given recent news? Has anyone else successfully "returned" to plain leaf, or plan to? I want to and hope to.

Legislative Update

1. Michigan - the Senate Dems held strong and did not cave to the House Speakers demands to wrap the ban into the budget negotiations. It was close, but reason prevailed.

2. ⁠North Carolina - the ban bill was amended to regulate leaf. Senate passed their conference report. HOuse did not as they were not happy with the hemp provisions. They will reconvene end July. But we are in good shape.

3. ⁠Nevada - BOP missed their deadline to file their intent to schedule kratom. No action will happen from BOP until after next session. That being said, I think they have moved off the issue

My interventional pain management doctor has prescribed 0.5mg Naltrexone every night for pain. I am a very low dose kratom user, about 4.5 mg once a day around 11:00am. I don’t take it in the afternoon because it messes up my sleep but I’m in a lot of pain (6-7/10). I’m trying to figure out if I can take the LDN in the evening and still take my kratom at 10-11 am. I searched through old posts but everything is years old. Any help is appreciated.

The 0.05% limit also bans all Mit extracts

as the title says

I'm assuming a fire sale should be imminent? It seems like the temporary DEA order takes effect end of the month? Does anyone know when brick and mortar operations will have to start taking product off the shelves?

I didn't know this was possible with kratom, literally never even looked into it.

Have any of you guys done this?

Reason is, because I want to remove any impurities and have a product I know is safe.

Also, a b extraction is fun, I used to do it with other plants 😉