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This analysis examines two fictional characters, Omega Flowey from Undertale and Cross Sans from X-tale, utilizing information sourced from wikis and canonical media to determine the potential outcome of a battle between them, excluding X Chara and X Gaster from consideration.

For those seeking a direct answer, please proceed to chapter 4.

Chapter 1: Character Backstory.

Photoshop Flowey represents the enhanced form of Flowey after he forcibly absorbs the Six Human Souls at the conclusion of a Neutral Route. He acts as the final adversary in that route, transforming into an entity of Eldritch origin, with a theorized height of approximately 51 feet 6 inches, or 15.73 meters.

1. The narrative surrounding Cross Sans is extensive and continuously evolving, making it impractical to detail everything here; for a comprehensive account, please refer to his wiki. He stands at a height of 4'7" or 140 cm, with his statistics remaining unspecified.

2. Cross Sans is a character conceived by X Gaster, but due to a series of unfortunate events, he lost his alternate universe and all those dear to him. The only companion he has left is X Chara, who shares his soul. Together, they aim to restore their alternate universe using their combined powers.

Chapter 2: Abilities and Weapons.

Photoshopped Flowey possesses a multitude of attacks, resulting in an extensive list.

He operates in up to three distinct phases. Flowey's lower eyes unleash seven X-shaped projectiles that spread across a broad area of the battlefield, moving slowly for a duration of 60 seconds once his determination factor (DF) reaches zero. Simultaneously, his upper eyes fire X-shaped bullets in groups of three, encircling the protagonist, also traveling slowly for 60 seconds after his DF depletes.

Additionally, Flowey generates flamethrowers near his arms, releasing three bursts of brief flames. A non-threatening circle forms around the SOUL, rapidly alternating between red and yellow, followed by "friendliness pellets" that trace the circle, converge towards the center, and then disperse in various directions.

Flowey unleashes numerous vines aimed directly at the protagonist's SOUL, indicated by rapidly alternating red and yellow lines. Simultaneously, Flowey's second head emits a powerful beam from its mouth, spanning the center of the screen. A blue light signals the impending attack as the mouth opens slightly.

This beam is deployed only after the vine attack, occurring randomly about 20% of the time due to variations in attack duration. It is crucial to understand that Flowey refrains from using his laser during his final phase, as all attacks are concluded earlier than normal.

Additionally, Flowey develops a Venus flytrap from one of his cactus-like appendages, which draws in flies that inflict damage upon contact with the player.

Flowey releases numerous bombs from the upper section of the screen, which detonate upon contact with the lower area of the playable field. When a bomb is touched, it inflicts damage both directly and through the resulting explosion radius.

Flowey also extends plant stems that resemble finger guns, which shoot projectiles from both the left and right sides of the screen, with his face appearing at the tips of the fingers.

Additionally, Flowey launches three dentata, which are circular, cactus-like serpents with mouths that bounce off the walls several times before disappearing off-screen.

During this phase, Flowey relies solely on his upper eye and vine attacks. He can utilize SAVEs between pairs of attacks, specifically after two vine strikes or between an eye and a vine attack. If the protagonist successfully evades an attack, Flowey loads the file to lure them into a vulnerable position for an unexpected strike. However, if the character dodges again, Flowey refrains from loading the file a second time.

After enduring Flowey's assaults for a while, a "WARNING" notification appears on the television head, accompanied by a siren. One of Flowey's gray roots changes color, signaling which SOUL the protagonist will confront following a fade to black. Although the bullets in the SOUL segments can inflict damage, they do not completely drain the protagonist's health.

The light blue SOUL employs multiple knives that spin and move diagonally across the screen simultaneously. If the SOUL retaliates, it can be utilized for healing.

The orange SOUL features rings of hands that descend around the screen. These hands rotate slowly in either a clockwise or counterclockwise direction, extending and retracting at designated intervals.

The dark blue SOUL restricts movement with a line of stars positioned above it. Ballet shoes enter from the side, moving up and down.

The purple SOUL presents two rows of books on either side of the screen, with each book producing negative words that scroll horizontally.

The green SOUL employs three frying pans that generate flames beneath them.

The yellow SOUL wields a firearm that fires projectiles aimed at the protagonist's SOUL, as signified by red crosshairs.

Although Photoshop Flowey lacks official statistics, an analysis of the game files provides some insights.

Attack starts at 19 but can decrease to 7.

Defense begins at 33 but ultimately drops to 0 by the conclusion of a phase.

Health is initially 9999, though it can occasionally reduce to 100.

Cross Sans possesses a wide array of attacks and abilities that can be utilized in combat.

He shares many abilities with his classic counterpart, including the use of bones and blasters, as well as the capacity for shortcuts or teleportation. Having served in the royal guard, he brings considerable fighting experience and martial arts skills to the battlefield, enabling his blasters and bones to effectively contend with formidable opponents such as Ink Sans or Error. Additionally, he can summon both a large knife and smaller knives to hurl at his adversaries.

Cross Sans also wields a "Hack Knife," which grants him the capability to appropriate elements from alternate universes to enhance his own abilities. Furthermore, he can employ Soul Corruption, a limited form of control over his opponents, compelling them to follow commands that are executed ineffectively and sluggishly.

He possesses the ability to heal minor non-fatal injuries, and in the event of losing his soul, he can endure for several hours before ultimately perishing.

Chapter 3: Analyzes the weaknesses of both characters or factors that may affect the outcome of a confrontation.

Photoshopped Flowey: His control over the six human souls breeds a sense of arrogance, making him susceptible to attacks. He frequently underestimates his adversaries and enjoys prolonging their demise. However, under certain conditions, the souls may rebel against him, reclaiming their power and reverting him to a mere flower.

Cross sans occasionally exhibits overconfidence in his abilities when he perceives an advantage, often leading him to engage in lengthy monologues. However, when faced with a more formidable opponent or multiple adversaries, he tends to overthink, which can create vulnerabilities that may be exploited. Additionally, there are instances when he may mentally succumb to despair, rendering him too disheartened to continue fighting.

Chapter 4: Potential Fight Outcomes and Conclusion.

This section outlines possible outcomes of the confrontation. In a direct one-on-one scenario, if both combatants unleash their full potential from the outset, Photoshopped Flowey is likely to prevail approximately 79% of the time.

His relentless assaults utilizing laser bombs, plant magic, and soul attacks should sufficiently surpass Cross's offensive and defensive capabilities. Additionally, he can immobilize Cross with his save files, and even if Cross inflicts considerable damage, Flowey can simply load a previous file to restore himself and resume the battle.

If Cross were afforded the opportunity to devise a strategy, he might secure a victory in approximately 55% of encounters, particularly if he employs his hack knife to potentially turn one of the souls against Flowey, which could disrupt Flowey's control over some of the souls. However, should this tactic fail, he would likely be overwhelmed once more.

Flowey's attacks and hacks present an insurmountable challenge for Cross. While he could match Flowey's assaults due to the superior power of his blasters and the defensive capabilities of his bones, he would still struggle to prevail in close combat given the immense scale and potency of Flowey's abilities.

If he can persuade the souls to ally with him and oppose the deranged flower, his victory would be assured every time.

In summary, Cross lacks the firepower and abilities necessary to surpass Flowey in damage or healing, which leads me to conclude that Flowey prevails over Cross Sans.

This is my perspective on the issue; do you share this view? Please share your thoughts.

(Note only using cannon versions)

Chapter 1 provides essential background on the characters. Fresh is a multiverse parasite that infiltrates its host, Sans, by occupying the left eye socket. Its origins remain a mystery, but it is known that Fresh stands at 6'3". Epic Sans, initially an ordinary version of Sans, gained immense power after receiving a magical eye from Gaster. Following Frisk's fall, Gaster sought to harness their determination, leading to a confrontation that forced Gaster to retreat while seizing control of Frisk's soul. Epic Sans, now tasked with stopping both Gaster and Frisk, has honed his skills through 20 years of battling monsters in his nightmares, standing at 5'6".

Chapter 2: Abilities, Weapons, and Skills

Fresh possesses fewer abilities than initially anticipated. Notably, he can censor profanity and utilizes Explosive Furbies as projectiles, striking them with a Whiffle bat, which results in unconventional attacks. It is presumed that, due to the parasite infecting him, he can access classic Sans abilities such as Gaster Blasters and blue magic. Fresh is characterized by infinite defense and 100 HP, with a single attack capability.

In contrast, Epic boasts a vast array of abilities. He can summon Epic Blasters, which are significantly more powerful than Gaster Blasters, with three of them firing simultaneously equating to a nuclear explosion. These blasters can track opponents, bending their beams to ensure a hit.

Epic can also summon larger, more damaging bones and utilize blue magic that is ten times stronger than that of typical Sans. Additionally, he can absorb magical blasts and deploy them at will during combat. His agility is exceptional, making him one of the best dodgers in the alternate universe, likely due to extensive training against nightmare monsters. While it remains uncertain if he can use karmatic retribution, he can inflict a poison-like effect on his opponents. Furthermore, Epic has the ability to cheat death through his magic eye, which activates if his HP reaches zero or his soul is shattered, His eye serves as a crucial link to his existence, and the only way to eliminate him is by removing it, a task only Epic Gaster or a being of greater power, like 404, can accomplish.

Interestingly, he wields a rubber chicken as a melee weapon; despite its unconventional nature, he has demonstrated the ability to slice through solid stone with it. He exhibits remarkable durability, enduring blasts from Cross Sans, a formidable opponent, and sustaining numerous hits without showing signs of fatigue or weakness. Additionally, he possesses significant physical strength, capable of clashing with Cross's sword using just the rubber chicken. Furthermore, he can incorporate anime-inspired moves into his attacks, showcasing his unique combat style. His stats include HP 99, attack ranging from 1 to 88, and defense from 1 to 99.

Chapter 3 discusses the weaknesses of two characters. Fresh has notable vulnerabilities, particularly his true form; if an opponent were to strike his left eye socket, it could potentially eliminate the parasite. Additionally, since the parasite gradually siphons the host's life force, a prolonged battle with a Sans he has been draining could pose significant challenges for Fresh. On the other hand, Epic Sans has a few limitations as well. His tendency to approach battles with a lighthearted attitude can diminish his strength at the outset, allowing a formidable opponent to gain the upper hand early on. Furthermore, he can be caught off guard and may have a desire for death due to his long struggle to remove the magic eye, although he remains a robust character overall.

In analyzing the potential outcomes of the fight, several scenarios emerge for both characters. In a direct one-on-one confrontation, Epic would likely prevail 8 out of 10 times due to his impressive offensive capabilities and durability.

However, the battle's dynamics could shift if the Fresh parasite manages to infect Epic's eye, which would significantly alter the fight's trajectory. If Fresh were to execute a successful sneak attack, he might have a chance to infect Epic, but this is complicated by Epic's exceptional dodging skills and the fact that Fresh lacks powerful attacks to inflict serious damage. Under optimal conditions for Fresh, the odds would still be only 3 out of 10.

While Fresh possesses infinite defense, Epic's ability to resurrect after being defeated and the sheer destructive power of his blasters—potentially equivalent to nuclear bombs—would make it difficult for Fresh to survive if Epic summoned multiple blasts. Ultimately, Fresh's best chance lies in successfully infecting Epic's eye. This concludes the analysis of the battle; I welcome any differing opinions.

Recently, I've encountered discussions suggesting that Killer Sans can defeat Error in a one-on-one battle without any external assistance. This seems peculiar, given that Error is considered a universal-level threat, while Killer Sans, akin to Nightmare, is viewed as an AU-level threat. To explore this further, I am initiating a series that will analyze the canonical statistics and abilities of each character, excluding fan interpretations. If you're interested in the conclusion, feel free to skip to chapter four.

In terms of backstory, Killer Sans's narrative is relatively straightforward within a genocide route. Chara persuades him to join their cause, likely due to the psychological toll of witnessing numerous genocides. The storyline diverges with either Sans ultimately killing Chara or departing his AU in search of more LV, with the former being the more accepted version. Eventually, he aligns with the Dusttale trio or Nightmare, depending on the narrative. Notably, Killer Sans stands at 5'11".

Error's backstory is more complex, as he originally began as a classic Sans before evolving into Geno/Aftertale through a series of timeline events, ultimately becoming Error. He has no recollection of his past, which simplifies his narrative. Error is notably shorter, standing at 5'4".

Regarding abilities, Killer Sans possesses several noteworthy skills. His primary weapon is a real knife that inflicts 99 damage, capable of one-shotting most monsters. It's important to clarify that he cannot summon a red knife or execute determination slashes. Additionally, he wields sharp bones, which are more effective than blunt bones, although he has inexplicably lost the ability to use blasters.

He possesses a significant advantage with a powerful blaster that emits a viscous black substance. The exact potency of this attack remains ambiguous, but he reserves it for moments of boredom or when he seeks a swift resolution to a conflict, indicating that his health points (HP) exceed one. Given his history of eliminating everyone in his underground, it is likely that his HP is well above 99. He can also utilize shortcuts akin to other characters like Sans, but that is the extent of his abilities.

Error has unique advantages, including access to glitched bones and blasters that surpass standard weaponry. He can also employ blue strings derived from the tears on his face, which allow him to manipulate or destroy souls if he can seize them. These strings can serve multiple purposes, such as attacking opponents or enabling him to escape like Spider-Man. Additionally, he can jump between alternate universes without external assistance and possesses an immense amount of LV due to the destruction of numerous timelines, rendering his HP indeterminate.

Killer Sans exhibits weaknesses stemming from his overly dramatic and cocky demeanor, which could ultimately lead to his downfall. He often boasts about his superiority, even in the presence of his boss, and tends to rely heavily on allies like Nightmare or Dust in precarious situations. Furthermore, if he sustains excessive damage or depletes too much magic, the classic Sans persona may attempt to escape his consciousness.

Error's vulnerabilities include his arrogance and the potential for random glitches that can cause his eye sockets to fill with errors, risking his stability. He also has a strong aversion to close proximity with others, which could be exploited.

In a potential confrontation, Error is likely to dominate the fight. However, Killer could seize an opportunity for victory through a well-timed sneak attack while Error is distracted or preoccupied.

Killer may have the opportunity to land a fatal blow, but in a direct one-on-one confrontation, his best strategy is to utilize his goop blaster immediately for a surprise attack while Error is distracted. The goop blaster's damage potential is uncertain, which means it could inflict significant harm on Error. If that initial attack fails, Killer must act quickly and relentlessly to prevent Error from countering, possibly attempting a knife strike to the skull. However, if this attack does not succeed, Killer would be vulnerable, as Error could easily capture his soul, which is quite exposed. Given that Error has likely faced more formidable opponents than Killer, the odds are stacked against him. Ultimately, I estimate Killer's chances of winning this encounter at about 30% under optimal conditions, while Error would have a 90% chance if he initiates the fight. What are your thoughts—do you agree or disagree?

Basically the title says it, I lost my first save of the game I was fourteen hours in and I was having fun, I saved the game to take a break and when I came back all I saw was “new game”

I’ve been trying everything from backups to transfer files but it seemed to me I lost my save permanently.

So can i just give myself the mons I had from the time I put in?

I know that’s sorta cheating but I’m not giving myself anything more then what i already had