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"Zahard" and Outside god Part 2: lunar cycle

Since I looked at the sun in the first part, in the second I will talk about the moon. There are two animals most often associated with the moon: the toad and the rabbit. In one version, the moon goddess Chang'e was transformed into a three-legged toad as punishment. More precisely, the spots on the full moon were initially perceived as a toad, but later they came to be seen as a rabbit. The Moon Rabbit is also called the Jade Rabbit (Yutu in Chinese folklore) and is the companion of Chang'e. 

The guardian of the first floor (or the entire tower) is the strange rabbit Headon. It's a bit of a stretch, but Hwa Ryuin's first appearance wears a mask with similar stones to Headon's and uses a staff of the same color (and thanks to Bam, they are both one-eyed). Hwa Ryuin calls Bam her god (and the rabbit Xia Xia also calls him her god), but she doesn't actually worship him. (I'm not sure if her nickname Yuto can be considered a reference if it's confirmed that it's a different character).

Korean mythology doesn't have a specific lunar deity, but there are stories where characters become celestial bodies. One such story is Haenim Dalnim—the sun and the moon.

In short, a lonely poor woman is raising two children (a brother and sister). One day, on her way home, she is eaten by a tiger, which later goes after the children. The brother and sister run from the tiger and pray to the heavens for salvation. A rope falls from the sky. They climb up it and become the sun and moon, while the tiger falls and dies.

This folk tale has various variations. In most cases, the sister is said to have become the moon and the brother the sun. However, there's also an opposite version. In it, when the brother was about to become the sun, the sister said she was afraid of the night (in some translations, darkness, but in many, it's night). Then her brother became the moon in her place, and her sister the sun. According to the tale, the sister was shy, and she shines so brightly that no one looks at her.In this version, the brother is Dalnim. 

Interestingly, in various sources, the brother and sister began to be perceived as gods, especially the moon. Perhaps because of their similar names or because in some sources it was the heavenly ruler who gave the children a rope, the version where the sister was Dalnim became prevalent (at least in English sources), and her brother's name became confused with Haemosu, although in other sources, it was the other way around, and Dalnim became his father's daughter. As a result, probably due to confusion, the Dalnim of the folk tale and the Haemosu of the legends became siblings on some internet sites.

Of course, since this is a short story, I will consider other mythologies, but it seems the name Dalnim can still be used (because I can’t understand what Mago has in common with the primeval goddess - the creator Mago)

Now I'd like to address a slightly odd situation. Originally, there were eight lamps on the ceiling; since the second season, there are only five. This complicates my task a bit, as the eight lamps in a circle resemble the lunar cycle. The eight phases of the moon, from new moon to full moon and back again. The number five can be interpreted in different ways: they removed the return path, the five colors of the moon (white (gray, a regular moon), black (new moon), red, yellow, blue), or a five-pointed star (but only Yura has that) (the five dragons of Haemosu?), although I still think they're closer to the moon (by the way, on the death floor we again see eight circles, although not on the ceiling).

Lunar phases are explained differently in different mythologies. In many cases, it's a fading moon, in others it's split, in others it's sick (it's hard for me to say exactly where). But two meanings stuck out to me from all the information: the new moon—the death of a deity, their disappearance, their descent into the underworld; and the full moon—the peak of power and influence on others.

In the cave, the exit was closed with a round stone, and this resembles a volcanic moon; in the plot, the moon occasionally flashes (mostly a symbol of Urek's organization, but also in the first season only once in the imagination), and it seems to be in different phases (or the artist's problems).

Arlene writes that the power of God will enter the child's body and awaken it, but something always seemed strange—it's definitely a diary. More specifically, it's definitely a personal note. Where did Anna find it? Where's the exit from the tower? Then why is it still unknown? Wouldn't it be more logical for Arlene to hand over her pocket FUGs? Is it possible this diary is only used to deceive others?

In the first part, I mentioned that I believe the Outside God built a tower and locked someone in there, but what happened to OG in the end? My theory is that it's dead. Something probably happened during the tower's construction, leading to its waning phase. I believe OG is the full moon, and Bam is the new moon. Bam doesn't have anything at the very beginning, and as the story progresses, he develops too quickly (from the perspective of others).

Bam's ability to absorb everything and make this power his own can be compared to the moon absorbing the sun's light (and other stars and the earth's) and reflecting some of it as what is called moonlight (the moon itself does not shine)

It would be easy to call Bam an OG who goes through phases, but Bam's theme is the butterfly. The lunar cycle and the butterfly have similar symbolism, but the butterfly is closer to reincarnation, while the lunar cycle is rebirth.

On the other hand, there's V, who clearly has everything, abilities, and memories intact, and Bam, who has no past. V and Bam are definitely not the same person, and Bam is most likely not V and Arlene's son (except for the body). The dead body contained only V's soul, along with the blue trissa. And I wonder what Arlene did.

Enryu's Thorns possess the power of a god (according to the characters) and recognize Bam as their master, should the Thorns be considered a weapon against someone?

The fate linked to Arlene could very well be fake, and the diary specifically written to make Bam believe it's his destiny. Perhaps it's not fate that guides Bam, but rather fate that adapts to him. The fact that V calls himself a god and so easily embraced control of his body, and also that he wants to become one with Bam and doesn't perceive him as a person.

Arlene, like all 13 warriors, is a selfish person who fancies herself a god. Perhaps, as many say, she was a believer in OG, but did her faith remain after all this time in the towers? The scene with Enryu really doesn't fit, but he happened after she left. They could have easily met, and Arlene could have lied to him, saying something like, "Trust me, and our god will return." (Why should he have believed her? (For the same reason why Rachel hasn't been dumped yet).

Off topic, if I were to choose a god for OG, I'd like to turn to Aztec mythology. The god of the moon is Metztli (the god of the moon, night, and farmers with a funny story about a rabbit), but a more fitting deity is the one Metztli identifies with—Tezcatlipoca. Tezcatlipoca is the god of night, magic, fate, and warriors (and much more, with many other names). He is the creator and destroyer of the world, the first sun. He was both a benefactor and an evil god, so it makes sense that Bam is called both the savior and the scourge of the tower.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 5 days ago

"Zahard" and Outside god Part 2: lunar cycle

Since I looked at the sun in the first part, in the second I will talk about the moon. There are two animals most often associated with the moon: the toad and the rabbit. In one version, the moon goddess Chang'e was transformed into a three-legged toad as punishment. More precisely, the spots on the full moon were initially perceived as a toad, but later they came to be seen as a rabbit. The Moon Rabbit is also called the Jade Rabbit (Yutu in Chinese folklore) and is the companion of Chang'e. 

The guardian of the first floor (or the entire tower) is the strange rabbit Headon. It's a bit of a stretch, but Hwa Ryuin's first appearance wears a mask with similar stones to Headon's and uses a staff of the same color (and thanks to Bam, they are both one-eyed). Hwa Ryuin calls Bam her god (and the rabbit Xia Xia also calls him her god), but she doesn't actually worship him. (I'm not sure if her nickname Yuto can be considered a reference if it's confirmed that it's a different character).

Korean mythology doesn't have a specific lunar deity, but there are stories where characters become celestial bodies. One such story is Haenim Dalnim—the sun and the moon.

In short, a lonely poor woman is raising two children (a brother and sister). One day, on her way home, she is eaten by a tiger, which later goes after the children. The brother and sister run from the tiger and pray to the heavens for salvation. A rope falls from the sky. They climb up it and become the sun and moon, while the tiger falls and dies.

This folk tale has various variations. In most cases, the sister is said to have become the moon and the brother the sun. However, there's also an opposite version. In it, when the brother was about to become the sun, the sister said she was afraid of the night (in some translations, darkness, but in many, it's night). Then her brother became the moon in her place, and her sister the sun. According to the tale, the sister was shy, and she shines so brightly that no one looks at her.In this version, the brother is Dalnim. 

Interestingly, in various sources, the brother and sister began to be perceived as gods, especially the moon. Perhaps because of their similar names or because in some sources it was the heavenly ruler who gave the children a rope, the version where the sister was Dalnim became prevalent (at least in English sources), and her brother's name became confused with Haemosu, although in other sources, it was the other way around, and Dalnim became his father's daughter. As a result, probably due to confusion, the Dalnim of the folk tale and the Haemosu of the legends became siblings on some internet sites.

Of course, since this is a short story, I will consider other mythologies, but it seems the name Dalnim can still be used (because I can’t understand what Mago has in common with the primeval goddess - the creator Mago)

Now I'd like to address a slightly odd situation. Originally, there were eight lamps on the ceiling; since the second season, there are only five. This complicates my task a bit, as the eight lamps in a circle resemble the lunar cycle. The eight phases of the moon, from new moon to full moon and back again. The number five can be interpreted in different ways: they removed the return path, the five colors of the moon (white (gray, a regular moon), black (new moon), red, yellow, blue), or a five-pointed star (but only Yura has that) (the five dragons of Haemosu?), although I still think they're closer to the moon (by the way, on the death floor we again see eight circles, although not on the ceiling).

Lunar phases are explained differently in different mythologies. In many cases, it's a fading moon, in others it's split, in others it's sick (it's hard for me to say exactly where). But two meanings stuck out to me from all the information: the new moon—the death of a deity, their disappearance, their descent into the underworld; and the full moon—the peak of power and influence on others.

In the cave, the exit was closed with a round stone, and this resembles a volcanic moon; in the plot, the moon occasionally flashes (mostly a symbol of Urek's organization, but also in the first season only once in the imagination), and it seems to be in different phases (or the artist's problems).

Arlene writes that the power of God will enter the child's body and awaken it, but something always seemed strange—it's definitely a diary. More specifically, it's definitely a personal note. Where did Anna find it? Where's the exit from the tower? Then why is it still unknown? Wouldn't it be more logical for Arlene to hand over her pocket FUGs? Is it possible this diary is only used to deceive others?

In the first part, I mentioned that I believe the Outside God built a tower and locked someone in there, but what happened to OG in the end? My theory is that it's dead. Something probably happened during the tower's construction, leading to its waning phase. I believe OG is the full moon, and Bam is the new moon. Bam doesn't have anything at the very beginning, and as the story progresses, he develops too quickly (from the perspective of others).

Bam's ability to absorb everything and make this power his own can be compared to the moon absorbing the sun's light (and other stars and the earth's) and reflecting some of it as what is called moonlight (the moon itself does not shine)

It would be easy to call Bam an OG who goes through phases, but Bam's theme is the butterfly. The lunar cycle and the butterfly have similar symbolism, but the butterfly is closer to reincarnation, while the lunar cycle is rebirth.

On the other hand, there's V, who clearly has everything, abilities, and memories intact, and Bam, who has no past. V and Bam are definitely not the same person, and Bam is most likely not V and Arlene's son (except for the body). The dead body contained only V's soul, along with the blue trissa. And I wonder what Arlene did.

Enryu's Thorns possess the power of a god (according to the characters) and recognize Bam as their master, should the Thorns be considered a weapon against someone?

The fate linked to Arlene could very well be fake, and the diary specifically written to make Bam believe it's his destiny. Perhaps it's not fate that guides Bam, but rather fate that adapts to him. The fact that V calls himself a god and so easily embraced control of his body, and also that he wants to become one with Bam and doesn't perceive him as a person.

Arlene, like all 13 warriors, is a selfish person who fancies herself a god. Perhaps, as many say, she was a believer in OG, but did her faith remain after all this time in the towers? The scene with Enryu really doesn't fit, but he happened after she left. They could have easily met, and Arlene could have lied to him, saying something like, "Trust me, and our god will return." (Why should he have believed her? (For the same reason why Rachel hasn't been dumped yet).

Off topic, if I were to choose a god for OG, I'd like to turn to Aztec mythology. The god of the moon is Metztli (the god of the moon, night, and farmers with a funny story about a rabbit), but a more fitting deity is the one Metztli identifies with—Tezcatlipoca. Tezcatlipoca is the god of night, magic, fate, and warriors (and much more, with many other names). He is the creator and destroyer of the world, the first sun. He was both a benefactor and an evil god, so it makes sense that Bam is called both the savior and the scourge of the tower.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 5 days ago

"Zahard" and Outside god Part 1: The Three-Legged Crow

This post turned out longer than I planned, so I decided to split it into two parts.

Before I start talking about the theory itself, I want to compare Zahard and Sinbad from Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic. I've already seen comparisons between Sinbad and Urek. Yes, they're similar in their overall first impressions: the strongest of the characters shown, a rather unpleasant first impression for the main characters (and there's also a separate spin-off).

However, Zahard and Sinbad also have a lot in common: an adventurer who loves adventures, sees destiny, has strong comrades with whom he has gone through a long, difficult path but on whom he does not really rely, one who was destined to become king, and those who tried to take destiny under their control.

Magi ended a long time ago, but here's a spoiler for it. Inside Sinbad was David, who had merged with the god of the previous world, Alma Torana, and who inspired Sinbad to take control of everything. Incidentally, after the line at the end of the season about the dead dissolving into shinsu, I remembered that in Magi, the dead return to rukh. In the previous world, the source of rukh was a god, but since humans had expelled all of its power, it became a disaster.

Perhaps Zahard is in a similar situation, but I think it's more voluntary. Rewatching scenes with the young Zahard, it seemed to me that at different intervals his mask darkened from red until it became black. I have a feeling that when he first began his ascent, he had a bright red mask, like his symbol in the tower.

I want to remind you about the wall where the heroes (Dowon) were sealed. To be more precise, inside the wall, Dowon was sealed in a tower that the locals called the Hero Tower. 

There's only one mention of this, but judging by Khun's words, it's generally accepted that their tower was built by a god. This immediately brings to mind the story told by Rachel, which evokes a parallel with Bam. The story of the man who loved a star may indeed be about the construction of this tower, but without the romanticism. Ultimately, the one who built the tower was the Outside god, and the star is the one who became the source of shinsu in the tower.

Now, I'd like to designate the original owner of Zahard's symbol as the sun god. Firstly, the pattern on the adult Zahard's cloak resembles a sun, and I could have ignored it due to the redesign (as the FUG symbol), but SIU simply covered it with white cloth, so it's possible. A small detail on the ship of the revolution—the spikes around the circle where this symbol is located—gives it the appearance of a sun. The color of Zahard's shinsu (to be honest, in the first season the shinsu itself was the same color) is yellow.

It might be far-fetched, but I think the current Zahard no longer wears a mask because he and the sun god have become almost one. I think throughout his journey, Zahard was losing himself and eventually even threw himself in the trash, as if to make room for something greater. Or perhaps, on the contrary, he wanted to leave at least something of himself before ceasing to be himself completely.

But they all changed during the conquest of the tower, so all the changes in Zahard could be explained in the same way, but I think that Traumerei could notice if the changes were in the soul itself, given that he practiced.

Also, his reaction to Bam. He didn't know that the person standing before him was Arlene and V's son. The problem is, almost everyone knew exactly that about Bam, but Zahard, unlike them, has some idea of ​​what Bam is.

In Asian mythology, the personification of the sun is the Three-legged crow (three dots by the eyes?)

In Korea it is called Samjok-o. In the ancient Korean kingdom of Goguryeo, this was the most popular mythological image. The crow is depicted as black.

In Chinese mythology, there is also a three-legged crow, but it is called Yangwu or Jinwu, which translates as golden crow, and in their mythology it is colored red.

If we talk about the sun god in Korean mythology, there is one interesting confusion with which I would like to talk about in the second part.

Haemosu (해모수) is the sun god in Korean mythology. The son of the lord of heaven owns the Oryonggeo chariot drawn by 5 dragons, has a dragon light sword, and is the father of the founder of the Goguryeo kingdom.

But I'm more interested in his name Haemosu (해모수)

Hae (해) - sun 

Mo (모) - mother (?) (In some translations it also means hair, and in others it's just the question "what?" If anyone can understand, please explain it to me)

Su (수) - water and this is probably the most interesting thing, because it is the same hieroglyph as in shinsu (신수)

And the last detail when Akryung talks about Zahard he puts his name in quotation marks, which only Data Zahard had done before when he first met Bam.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 12 days ago

What do you think of this as an omen?

Will we see Bam and Outside God meet in season 4?
The space inside Bam originally had a floor like a rice pot, but in season 3 the floor looks like the cave it came from.

Blue Triss speaks of the yellow ball as something that has consciousness (like Red Triss), and not something soulless.

Even before he first met the blue trissa, he said this darkness looked familiar. I associate this with the moment Rachel woke him.

Perhaps Bam had already met the OG within himself back in the cave and after that moment he began to place the yellow ball into the very abyss within himself.

After all, when he first got there, the light appeared only after his desire to see his true power, and then, in the second phase of the revolution, this ball disappeared and was in the abyss.

We also know that the blue triss was created based on a demon (most likely the story of the demon is known outside the tower), so Bam calls it a fake and asks to see the original. It also seems to me that the moment where the blue trissa from the red ball becomes a blue demon may be repeated with the yellow ball.

Also, occasionally, Bam's eyes change depending on the power he uses, but his original (golden) ones darken to about brown throughout the story (I noticed this thanks to someone else's post).

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 25 days ago

Is this still canon?

SIU said earlier that Phantaminum can easily destroy the Tower's history. Judging by the spinoff, Phantaminum fears what the Tower might create and interferes with history, albeit indirectly. If the Tower, as Aubrion (or whatever his name) claims, was created to create a new Axis, would it be powerful enough to counter a 5th-strongest Axis user?

Considering the disappearance of the Tales Users Story label in the final chapters, it's safe to assume that the role of the TOG story has significantly increased compared to what was originally planned. Perhaps the release was delayed and SIU's plans underwent significant changes.

Do you think Phantaminum is still strong enough to destroy the tower at any time?

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u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 26 days ago

Is this really Outside god?

The Tower of God wiki says it's the Outside God, but I don't think so.

If you look closely, you can see a soul depicted under the glow, like those shown on the death floor. It's only in the panel after the "star" that we get our first mention of OG. But this reference is in a picture of Arlene's son's body surrounded by darkness. On the other hand, this dark background resembles Bam's cave.

The star on top of the soul is similar to the image of an axis user, but SIU could also simply depict the glow from the soul.
I think that at this moment we were shown not the Outside god, but the transfer of V's soul into Bam's body.

And since I don't really believe in OG's (the demon who fought God's) willing participation, I think this whole V suicide thing is an attempt to subjugate God's power, even more than the plan to kill Zahard.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 1 month ago

Is this just a design detail or a hint at something?

What do you think?
It seems the cross on Aubryon's clothing looks different from the crosses in the main story. And the other former Shining Ones don't wear them either. Perhaps this has something to do with Phantaminum or the Darkness.

The spin-off made everything more confusing.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 1 month ago

Theory: The Zakhard Symbol, the Cave, and Rachel's Past

Zahard symbol
I don't know if this has already been explained by anyone (I haven't come across a post explaining this detail, please point me out if there is one), but there is something ambiguous about the symbol of Zahard.
At the beginning of each chapter, I show us Zahard's symbol under each chapter, but it's black. In the tower, even if the details are changed (like Adori's symbol), it's completely red (though the inner part of the eye is slightly darker, it's still red).

What is interesting is that Zahard himself wore a black mask with red eyes during the journey (and for some time after).
There is a rock painting in the cave, so it is difficult to say what color the eyes should be, but I will assume that they are black with red.

Rachel's first robe is also red and black. I've seen many theories that say Rachel was a slave or a servant. I think she's actually closer to a servant.

I'll refer to the place where she lived as the village from now on (it's more convenient for me). Little is said about it, except that in Baamu's cave she said it was a world of light where only the chosen ones could play, but in reality, she despised it.

This village, what is known about it: people there are afraid of the night, this is the Dark world as Rachel called it (I think she is already talking about it often here), but light comes from the cave.
Based on this, I believe that the world that Rachel told Baam about is the world that the adults in the village told her about.
A world without darkness is the dream of the whole village, their fear of the night and the color of their clothes, perhaps they were fanatics of the light (sun).
The symbol of three eyes is the symbol of the god of light. The world of light (which Rachel spoke of) is the reward for their sacrifice.

I wondered why Rachel was so angry on the death floor after hearing those words. Perhaps it was very similar to the words of the villagers, who also told her that it was their shared destiny to remain in the sealed world and guard the cave in order to receive a reward after death and live in the "World of Light."

Rachel's anger in that dialogue is also directed at the villagers, who shared a similar worldview to those on the Death Floor. But then Arlene arrives from the tower, wanting to use what's in the cave. The villagers refuse her (to be honest, they're understandable; the woman is carrying a baby's corpse and is clearly out of her mind), but it seems she begins to communicate with Rachel.

I always thought it was weird, even before she left the Tower (before she met the Outside God), she talked about Baam as an apostle and knew about Enryu. I think it's the power of the Outside God (not exactly the power of the Axis; I think they're a bit different, and Arlene isn't an Axis user).

Arlene's words about how she herself creates the fate of the entire tower and will take revenge on Zahard greatly impressed Rachel, and she showed her the forbidden area for all villagers where, according to stories, a monster lives.

My theory is that the Outside God was sealed in the cave, a god who was the complete opposite of the god worshiped in the village. From the villagers' perspective, this was a demon defeated by the god (I'm not saying the OG demon is the one, I'm saying history is written by the victors).

Arlene then implants the power of this being (demon or god) into the child's body, and it begins to grow (literally breathing life into it). Arlene then tells Rachel of this destiny as the tower's savior, of her journey with her friends, and Rachel begins to dream of conquering the tower herself.
But at some point, Arlene starts calling Baam a monster. My guess is, when the body grew, the one she saw wasn't V or Baam, but OG (so the whole Holy Trinity in one body, right?), who wasn't particularly cooperative.

At a certain point, Arlene tries to kill OG, but fails, after which she seals the cave herself, and then dies inside the cave (so probably the yellow ball inside Baam was not originally yellow, but acquired this color because of Arlene's soul, which he absorbed).
Some time later, Baam wakes up in a cave. The moment he first met Rachel always left me doubtful about how she opened the cave entrance, but I have my own theory. It happened when Baam completed the tower and reached the top. The way he touched the top stone resembles how he breaks curses (from the Wall, from Doom, from Aria). Rachel didn't pull Baam out; he opened the cave himself, breaking Arlene's spell. It just took time, and the breaking of the spell was visible from outside. Rachel had food and a knife with her. Perhaps the food was for Arlene, and the knife was for protection from Baam.
Ultimately, Rachel sees only the child, decides she can still smoke the tower, and often visits the place where Arlene first appeared (but the tower gates won't open for her). At some point, someone among the villagers becomes suspicious and decides to check out the cave. He sees the entrance open. Baam also notices it and goes to look for Rachel outside the cave, and when he sees her again, I often see her being mocked at this point, but perhaps she's being punished or interrogated about why the cave is empty.

It's unclear what happened to the villagers (perhaps Baam killed them or someone still lives there), but Rachel can definitely no longer return there.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 2 months ago

Do you think Baam's birthday is in the fall?

I know the name twenty-five Baam (night) is a reference to Christmas, but I wonder why SIU doesn't confirm his birthday.

In one of his blogs, SIU said that Baam's birthday is a secret, and in another, that instead of Baam's birthday, his own birthday could be celebrated.

I think there was a little hint there. SIU's birthday is May 29th. If Bam was actually born on the 25th, then you could look at it this way.
May 29 - 29.05

So if you take these numbers and swap 9 and 5, you get 25.09

So I think Baam's birthday is in September.

In the 13 Months series, the ninth month (or whatever it is correctly) is called Dark September and I'm wondering what color it should be (same as Black March?) (is the first month of autumn and the first month of spring similar?)

I didn't understand much about the meaning of the month itself, but September is considered dedicated to Our Lady of Sorrows, a title given to Mary as she suffered alongside Christ during his passion. (but I'm not sure how reliable this is)

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u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 2 months ago

Headon's attitude towards others

Headon doesn't have many moments where he's shown, but his attitude towards Bam seems to be very different from the others.

When he first greets Urek, he seems quite polite and formal. Later, his attitude becomes quite rude, for certain reasons. In dealing with Enkidu, he seems quite straightforward, not exactly rude, perhaps even honest.

He addresses Yuri as "princess," which makes sense, though others in the tower more often say "Yuri Zahard." He calls Edward by his full name.

He is very rude to Rachel from the very beginning. It seems to me that when Rachel first got to the tower, Headon ignored her.

When he first meets Bam, he speaks more friendly. Headon sincerely welcomes him to the tower. He lies to him so that Bam can begin his ascent.
The moment with the ball and the missing pockets doesn't quite fit my theory, but the pocket Yuri gave him in season two was a significant factor. I have a different opinion about the ball.

SIU has stated that Baam is very strong against Spells. The secret behind that is something we will find out later. Headon asked Yuri for Black March for Baam. If I'm not mistaken (I think I am) the 13 Months series is under a spell.

If you compare the moment he met Urek and Baam, he teleports to Urek, but waits for Baam from the start.

cut phrase “I truly welcome you for coming to the tower. The boy who was born on the night that tower cried.”

I've read theories suggesting it's the day Enryu killed the Guardian, but I think the phrase isn't precise. For example, it could be the day Arlene's real son died or the day his body was resurrected.

Perhaps it has more to do with Outside God than with what happened that day.

Yuri's words about Headon not liking irregular also don't seem true.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 2 months ago

What are your thoughts on snow in history?

I think snow has some significance in the TOG story. After the story of Icarus, Traumerei mentions snow, not stars. During the Death Floor arc, they have winter (it snows all the time). When Kang Horyang first leaves the Workshop, it snows. The place where Arlene lived for a long time is a place where it always snows. The only thought that comes to mind is that when the 13 warriors left the outside world, it was snowing, and that was their last memory of their homeland. Perhaps there's a slight parallel: snow on a winter night resembles stars. I'm not sure of any of my thoughts and would like to read others' thoughts on this.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 2 months ago

Theory: possible connection of the Arie, Ari, and Khun families with Outside God

It seems this theory has already been refuted, although not directly.

I like the theory that the symbol of Zahard and the cross may belong to two different gods. From my point of view, the cross is a symbol of the god who resurrected Baam. A similar cross is on Headon's clothing. And in the first chapter, when Baam entered the tower.

If you look at the symbol of the Khun family, it also has a white cross at the very bottom, and the symbols of the Arie and Ari families also have white swords resembling a cross. Perhaps, even in the outside world before arriving at the tower, their families (not they themselves) were very religious and worshiped this god.

(I'm still sticking to my idea that Outside God is based on a lunar deity. So, I'll mention that in the game Tower of God: New World, there was an event Khun vs. Arie Family Showdown! – Moonlight Mirror Battle, And in the Spin-off there is an arc about Ari's family and the power of moonlight.) I know it's very far-fetched
I don't know about Aria, who had a replica of the symbol from the cave on her clothes. I have a theory that they wanted to portray her switching sides to Baam or that he later "resurrected" her.

Although the color of the sword on the Khun family symbol ended up being blue (Headon, on the other hand, also has a blue cross), and the Ari family symbol has not yet been officially approved (due to the connection between the Arie and Ari family, I think this is it), it is unlikely to play a big role in the future plot.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 2 months ago

unreliable narrator

I'm just wondering if there are any moments in Tower of God where the author might use an unreliable narrator?

Probably a good example would be the story of Yasratcha and Yam's father

For me, moments like these are the story of Garam and the beginning of the Urek spin-off.

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u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 3 months ago

How did Arlene learn about the Outside god?

How do you think she learned about the Outside God? It was a legend from her hometown; one of the other family heads told her there was a temple (altar) dedicated to him inside the tower.
Arlene kept notes inside the tower, but the place she ended up in doesn't look like her home in the story. It's a bit odd to emerge from the tower into another world where this god resides.

It can be said that she was wrong and her prediction is going according to plan to lead to the worst outcome for her.

If she did everything right, then why is the Outside God habitat connected to the tower?

Perhaps it was more the devil than God.

I should probably clarify why I'm not sure she knew about the Outside God from the start. If we talk about the god we worship, we know what to call him. Inanna, Ereshkigal, Zeus, Tezcatlipoca, Quetzalcoatl, and many others. If her faith is monotheism, then she won't call it outside. After all, from a believer's point of view, only God can build something like this. If she believes in him, she will call him her god. The place where she left Baam was where she supposedly met the Outside God. But she didn't know what that place was. If you read that moment again, she's sure the Outside God is there and will do what she prays for, but she came to that place from the tower. Only if you're sure there's a god outside the tower would you call him "outside"; if you worshiped him from the start, you'd call him your own, but she calls him "outside" as if he were a completely unfamiliar being to her.

On the other hand, the name external may mean that there is another god inside the tower.

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u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 3 months ago

lunar calendar

The lunar calendar consists of 354 (355) days, with a month of 29-30 days. A 13th month is added to synchronize with the solar calendar.

The Korean holiday of Chuseok, a harvest (full moon) festival, is celebrated on the 15th day of the 8th month of the lunar calendar. Since the days in the lunar calendar shift, this is difficult to calculate, but if you take the 30 days of the month and start counting from Chuseok:

(12x30) - (8x30) + 15 = 135

When I searched, it turned out that there are approximately 134 days between Chusov and the Lunar New Year, which means that the next year starts on the 135th day.
additional: to the author of this post https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofGod/comments/1fr7ohw/theory_there_are_137_floors_in_the_tower/

I don't know if this is accurate, but if you use the lunar calendar, the number of days between Chuseok and the Lunar New Year is 136, and then the next year starts on day 137. So, for some strange reason, I agree with you. All this is possibly a funny coincidence that I came to when I read lunar mythology.

The art was drawn by SIU on the Chuseok theme, I just liked it and it mentions the Lunar New Year.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 3 months ago

My controversial, far-fetched theory about the Tower of God

This theory is probably easy to disprove, but I wanted to talk about it. Nature God and Machine God. It's not about nature and machines, but what they represent. Nature exists on its own and surrounds people. Machines are created by people.
If the tower is a reference to the Tower of Babel, then the situation could be reversed. God punished people for their arrogance when they built the tower. If God created the tower, then it is a punishment for people creating another god.

TUS could be a story about the creation of a god, then TOG is the aftermath of those events. Oedipus speaks not only of the creation, but also of the return of a god. When they created a god, they did so based on a previous god who had left or was simply inactive.

It's not my theory, but if Darkness and Light in the spin-off is a reference to the Big Bang Theory, and as I understand it, the scale in TUS is cosmic, but the events of the tower take place on Earth (possibly). The axis is a star, and from Earth, what surpasses the stars is the sun. Stars are not visible during the day, but they are there. (One of the reasons I think the other god is the moon is because Oedipus says that God gave them this power, gave them the stars.) In this case, on the top floor of the tower, the God created by people is the sun (in fact, the sun is a star, so Rachel's efforts are not in vain, right?).

Completing the tower from the very beginning is hopeless, because having reached the top floor, you will simply end up like Icarus. This might work with the theory (not mine) about the inverted tower, since during sunset the sun goes under water.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 3 months ago

What are the theories about eyes?

The gray color between the pupil and the iris. I saw a theory that Baam's eyes darken, but that's a bit different. I'm not sure about Enryu's; it's more likely just the way the light falls.

u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 3 months ago

What do you think about the meaning of God in the Tower of God?

Ranked players are called gods by ordinary players, while higher-ranked players are called gods among gods. On the other hand, in FUG, those who grant others' wishes are called gods. In other words, gods are incredibly powerful people, or I, who grant their wishes. If there were a god in history, a corresponding description of Traumerea, but those who do not continue their powers or grant people's wishes simply exist. They would be forgotten or left in search of a new god to fulfill their whims.

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u/Outrageous_Bridge992 — 3 months ago