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Can someone help me. I believe I have a narrow palate, small mouth. I have always been mouth breathing my whole life. I cannot breathe out of my nose it feels difficult due to my deviated septum. At night I have to breathe from my mouth, i genuinely cannot breathe, my snoring disturbs others. In the day, my top lip is like subconciously forcibly left open, i don't even notice, and I feel like my whole body is just compensating for the fact that I have a narrow airway, with my lips, and my nostrils flaring just to breathe, maybe I was born with a recessed maxilla.

how I need help:

Who do I exactly go to fix these things?

- I went to my family doctor. I asked to be referred to a maxiofacial doctor, and orthopedic surgeon. Bc I genuinely believe I have a narrow airway and narrow palate and I want that functionally fixed. However the doctors were confused saying, "who told you you have a narrow palate?" , they asked me like 5 times this. And I simply replied, I researched online and I want help. Anyways they said I have a normal palate, and after hesitation 2 different general doctors told me, "you have a referral to see the ENT surgeon right ,see them and if they recommend it then we will see" (I have chronic allergies. the allergy specialist wanted to refer me to an ENT rule out any anatomical reasons causing it.)

So anyways I visit the ENT. he asks me the same question "who told you , you have a narrow palate", i replied same way. he checks me nose (as I have an obvious deviated septum to the point its the first thing multiple people notice and tell me of my nose deviation), and he tells me "you have a minor deviation, septoplasty is optional, you'll grow healthly anyways , I wouldnt recommend it blah blah" basically implying way too many risks and not worth it, and I should just deal with it bc its 'minor deviation' (i dont believe him). He also says "i dont know why you have allergies , i have no info", and just refers the same allergy medicine ive been taking. whatever.

He also says I have a normal palate. SO ok all these breathing problem I have are just in my head?? God. Now im stuck idk who to go to, as everyone thinks I'm fine , my palate is normal ,my nose is normal' while im dying here. I had my parents also call some random myofacial place(i'm 17 almost 18), and they said I need a referal from ortho.

anyways I believe ortho, who did my braces will also say, "everything is normal", and i believe even my family dentist, who has never pointed out the fact that i have a narrow palate, will say "all normal"

-ill point out I know its not extreme narrow. but my palate is at least SLIGHTlY narrow, and also it's definetly asymetrical. I took a picture and it's like the palate area where my tounge should be is all leaning to a certain place, if yk wim.

Help me:

-Who do i talk to now? where do I go? i Need referalls and theyre all saying "normal normal " is normal ideal? no. I don't want normal.

-What potential surgeries do i need? Lefort or double jaw idk, like as long as its insured I'm willing to do it to save my face and functional breathing.

-Or is it all in my head

Can someone help me. I had a slight overbite, & overjet/crooked/flared teeth front teeth. I had spent thousands on braces. No extractions but used elastics for around 2 years. They did correct the crooked teeth, however the way the left my face, I don't want to live.

damages include;

-all my upper lip support vanished. My top lip used to be pronounced and thick, but now its so droopy, to the point they are like nonexistent thin. This also makes my philtrum appear longer, only at the front. and I feel the loss of support. I can still remember how my mouth would naturally pout, but now it feels so off, I can feel the my lips pulled down its like its not sitting right.

-I think they used elastics to fix the slight overbite, but now my side profile looks even worse. I originally had a narrow palate, small mouth. I have always been mouth breathing my whole life. I cannot breathe out of my nose it feels difficult due to my deviated septum. At night I have to breathe from my mouth, i genuinely cannot breathe, my snoring disturbs others. In the day, my top lip is like subconciously forcibly left open, i don't even notice, and I feel like my whole body is just compensating for the fact that I have a narrow airway, with my lips, and my nostrils flaring just to breathe, maybe I was born with a recessed maxilla. anyways after braces, this recession is either much more pronounced, or braces caused more recession, bc my side profile looks a thousand times worse. So basically I had a recessed chin and maxilla, and after braces and little mewing my jaw is not looking recessed, but now it looks like I have some sort of like overbite now, due to the recessed maxilla. i look disturbing.

-my face is so flat now. the whole 'sunken eyes, face narrowing, loosing face muscle 'whatever thing i see online from braces, same exact thing happened to me, except sooo extreme that I could genuinely sue the braces company, possibly looks so bad bc I already had a narrow mouth orginally, so when the braces narrowed it further, I look crazy. I cannot show my before/after, due to how extremely deformed the result is , people would remember. so u can dm me if u need to see it.

-my philtrum also used to look like a small triangle. after braces its like 2 lines, and i tried searching how to widen the philtrum but it seems like nobody in the world has my situation.

Anyways how I need help:

Who do I exactly go to fix these things? Aesthetic plastic surgeon? I'd rather not bc I believe this is functional, but nobody believes me. Heres what I tried;

- I went to my family doctor. I asked to be referred to a maxiofacial doctor, and orthopedic surgeon. Bc I genuinely believe I have a narrow airway and narrow palate and I want that functionally fixed. However the doctors were confused saying, "who told you you have a narrow palate?" , they asked me like 5 times this. And I simply replied, I researched online and I want help. Anyways they said I have a normal palate, and after hesitation 2 different general doctors told me, "you have a referral to see the ENT surgeon right ,see them and if they recommend it then we will see" (I have chronic allergies. the allergy specialist wanted to refer me to an ENT rule out any anatomical reasons causing it.)

So anyways I visit the ENT. he asks me the same question "who told you , you have a narrow palate", i replied same way. he checks me nose (as I have an obvious deviated septum to the point its the first thing multiple people notice and tell me of my nose deviation), and he tells me "you have a minor deviation, septoplasty is optional, you'll grow healthly anyways , I wouldnt recommend it blah blah" basically implying way too many risks and not worth it, and I should just deal with it bc its 'minor deviation' (i dont believe him). He also says "i dont know why you have allergies , i have no info", and just refers the same allergy medicine ive been taking. whatever.

He also says I have a normal palate. SO ok all these breathing problem I have are just in my head?? God. Now im stuck idk who to go to, as everyone thinks I'm fine , my palate is normal ,my nose is normal' while im dying here.

I don't want to go to a aesthetic surgeon. I don't have the money, I'd prefer to get insured and get in done with some facial doctor or whatever. Maybe ill get a lip lift at most. I had my parents also call some random myofacial place, and they said I need a referal from ortho.

anyways I believe ortho, who did my braces will also say, "everything is normal", and i believe even my family dentist, who has never pointed out the fact that i have a narrow palate, will say "all normal"

-ill point out I know its not extreme narrow. but my palate is at least SLIGHTlY narrow, and also it's definetly asymetrical. I took a picture and it's like the palate area where my tounge should be is all leaning to a certain place, if yk wim.

How I cope rn:

-By slightly pouting, I'm able to mimic have some lip volume, but its js annoying I wanna cry.

-Sometimes I don't wear my night retainer hoping it will go to normal but I don't want crooked teeth so its just on and off.

Help me:

-Who do i talk to now? where do I go? i Need referalls and theyre all saying "normal normal " is normal ideal? no. I don't want normal.

-What potential surgeries do i need? Lefort or double jaw idk, like as long as its insured I'm willing to do it to save my face and functional breathing.

-Or is it all in my head