AI use: ban, just remove, leave and mark as AI?

We are suddenly at a cross roads. AI is upon us and we are struggling with how we should handle AI posts. Many people are complaining on r/Nakshatras about AI use. We are using specific software that is highly rated for accuracy to check on the many posts that seem to be AI.

We have had a No AI Rule for quite sometime now. Have you read the rules. I assume many of the people who break the rules here, don't know we have rules. If you use a phone, click on the little icon that's on the fra right of the top line that says r/Nahatras to see the rules.

  • Rule 7: No AI

Write your own content in your own voice. AI-generated content comes across as phony, canned, unnatural, and commercial. Right away, it generates mistrust in the content. How do we know how it was written? If you are an expert, why would you use AI? A polished writing style does not make the content better. This is Reddit, not a literary magazine.

I have been very hesitant to remove posts that seem to be AI, because suppose they aren't? It takes a long time to write a good post and I really don't want to make that mistake with someone who has put in the effort. Meanwhile, I suggest that people stop highly formatting and decorating their posts with emojis and little cute design things, and laying out your post like it's a poem; it looks AI! People think it's AI, Reddit thinks its fake. Just write like a human. Reddit's filters and automod are a bit dodgy, we are trying them, not sure how that will go.

So please give us your opinion on this (and do it without attacking, or being obnoxiously emotional). Should we ban, just remove, or leave and mark as AI?

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u/PSPhotoWarrior — 10 days ago

When a person speaks the Truth, they say, "He speaks Dharma,"

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad

Verse १४: मन्त्र १४[I.iv.14] स नैव व्यभवत् तच्छ्रेयो रूपमत्यसृजत धर्मम् । तदेतत्क्षत्रस्य क्षत्रं यद्धर्मस्तस्माद्धर्मात् परं नास्त्यथो अबलीयान् बलीयाꣳसमाशꣳसते धर्मेण यथा राज्ञैवम् । यो वै स धर्मः सत्यं वै तत् तस्मात्सत्यं वदन्तमाहुर्धर्मं वदतीति धर्मं वा वदन्तꣳ सत्यं वदतीत्येतद्ध्येवैतदुभयं भवति ॥॥

'He (the Creator) still did not flourish. Therefore, He projected forth a form of supreme excellence: Dharma (cosmic and moral law). This Dharma is the power of the powerful, the very sovereignty of the sovereign. There is nothing higher than Dharma. For this reason, even a weaker person hopes to overcome a stronger one through Dharma, just as one does with the help of a king. That which is Dharma is verily Satya (Truth). Therefore, when a person speaks the Truth, they say, "He speaks Dharma," and when a person speaks Dharma, they say, "He speaks the Truth." Indeed, these two are one and the same.'

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u/PSPhotoWarrior — 2 months ago

Multiple Marriage Indictors

There's a principle that the mutible signs and their lords, Mercury and Jupiter can give multiple marriages if marriage factors are involved with them. There is another principle that you need more than just one indication to make a prediction. So just having Mercury in H7, or just one of these is not enough to predict much if anything. The following has to do with a person will having a series of girlfriends/boyfriends, then marriage, perhaps extra-marital affairs, then divorces and re-marriages

The marriage factors are H7, lord of H7, karaka, and many would include H1 and lord of H1. The more these facotrs are influenced by mutible signs and their lords, the more you have a confluent pattern that indicates multiple marriages. I think 3 indications might be enough, I've seen KN Rao say look for at least 3 indications for something before you make a prediction. The more the merrier. 

Jupiter is a giver, generous, optimistic, bountiful, wants more, expands, fat tissue, growth. But more of what? That is where one has to dig into the chart. If Jupiter is strong in a kama house, perhaps there is desire for more enjoyment, a natural tendency increasing enjoyment. Note that the kama houses are opposite the dharma houses. Focusing on kama can be opposed to focusing on dharma.  So it isn't a stretch to  see the principle that Jupiter influencing marriage factors could lead to multiple marriages.

Of course Jupiter is sattvic, wise, dharmic, so one has to see how is a particular Jupiter spinning in a given chart. 

Mercury can be fickle, immature, pleasure seeking, lustful, Peter Pan, boyish, noncommittal. So marriage factors in Mercury signs, and or under Mercury's influence, can lead to marriage issues, maybe.

So for this to work and to predict multiple marriages/relationships etc, e.g.: 

having Jupiter or Mercury  in H1 or 7, 

having Jupiter or Mercury aspecting or with the lord of H1 or H1

having Jupiter or Mercury with or aspecting the marriage karaka

having Jupiter or Mercury in mutible signs while influencing marriage factors

have marriage factors in mutible signs

The more of these you see in the D1 and some would include the D7, the more reason you have to suspects multiple relationships.

Modifiers: 

The Sun is sattvic and not really a lustful and fickle type, tends to be stead fast and consistant.

Strong dharmic influences.

Strong yogas that indicate spiritual drive and nature.

Yogas that indicate one is dharmic and of good character.

Eliabeth Taylor had 8 marriages and who knows how many relationships outside of marriage. Her lord of the 7th house is an exalted Venus, who is karaka of sexual realtionships, sitting in the 5th house with Rahu, a graha of desire. The 5th house has a mutble sign. The 5th house is also considered a house of romance and the start of a realtionship. The 5th house is 11th from the 7th house. Exalted Jupiter aspects Venus. The lagna lord Mars sits with Mercury.

Elizabeth Taylor

So let’s add this up: 

Venus as lord of H7 in mutible sign = 1

Venus as karaka in mutible sign = 1

Venus as lord of H7 aspected by Jupiter = 1

Venus as karaka aspected by Jupiter = 1

Lagna lord with Mercury = 1

Jupiter aspects the lagna = 1

So we get 6 hits on multiple marriage influences on marriage facotrs!

Nothing in isolation; her 4th house of emotions has 2 antual malefics and Mercury  becomes a 3rd. Mercury is lord of H8, sudden emotional outbursts are likely. Saturn is a powerful kama lord aspecting Venus. Saturn as a natural malefic is promising problems, which can include: separation, isolation, depression, endings, critical nature, disatisfaction. Rahu offers Venus obsessions and drama, with a dose of lies and bad thinking/decisions (H5 is thinking).

Barack Obama

Barack Obama has had one marriage and it seems unlikely he is a cheater or going to have more than one marriage. His lagna has a major Raja Yoga, Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga and his Saturn aslo makes a Sasa yoga. 

His 7th house lord is Moon and is in a major yoga in H5- Gouri Yoga. This yoga is formed by Moon being in his own sign or exlated in an angle or trine, while being aspected by Jupiter, Result – appealing personality, born of illustrious family and a friend of the sovereign. Success always kissing their feet and praised by one and all.  Most of this yogas fits perfectly. His wife is world famous and Jupiter and Saturn are in his 1st house so have a lot to say about hsi charactor and nature and abilities. That Jupiter uplifts H7 and it’s lord by Jupiter’s yogas and it’s contribution to Gouri. He and his wife have lifted eachother up.

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u/PSPhotoWarrior — 2 months ago

Stand with Dharma

"It is the duty of all to stand with Dharma. All must fight for and support Dharma, regardless of personality, background, or status."
— Swami Vivekananda

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u/PSPhotoWarrior — 2 months ago

That which leads to the highest common good

Mīmāṃsā (school of philosophy)

Dharma (धर्म) refers to “right action”.—The primary purpose of Mīmāṃsa is to establish the nature of right action (Dharma). The basic premise of Mīmāṃsa is that action is fundamental to the human condition. Without application, knowledge is vain; without action, happiness is impossible; without action human destiny cannot be fulfilled; therefore, right action (Dharma) is the sine-qua-non of a meaningful life on earth.

Jaimini defines Dharma as: codaṇā-lakṣaṇaḥ arthaḥ dharmaḥ.—“Dharma is that which leads to the highest common good (śreyas) and is distinguished by Vedic injunctions”. Dharma is “right living” defined by the practice of universal ethics and personal morals. “Dharma” cannot be known through empirical means such as cognition. It can be known only either through intuition or through a impersonal source of knowledge. The problem with relying on reason or intuition is that individuals will come to differing conclusions about what the ultimate nature of the “Good” is. There are endless controversies on most if not all ethical issues by “experts” who take one side or the other. The best and most universal source of Dharma therefore, would be an “impersonal” source such as the Vedas.

Dharma is that act which is enjoined by the Veda through its injunctive passages and which is conducive to the happiness of all beings.

Source: Srimatham: Mīmāṃsa: The Study of Hindu Exegesis

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u/PSPhotoWarrior — 2 months ago

act wisely

Many people assume spirituality means withdrawing from the world. The Gita teaches the opposite. Krishna does not tell Arjuna to run away from his responsibilities. Instead, he teaches him how to act wisely within the world.

Bhagavad Gita

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u/PSPhotoWarrior — 2 months ago

you are not entitled to the fruits of action

"You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty." - Lord Krishna

u/PSPhotoWarrior — 2 months ago

act wisely

Many people assume spirituality means withdrawing from the world. The Gita teaches the opposite. Krishna does not tell Arjuna to run away from his responsibilities. Instead, he teaches him how to act wisely within the world.

Bhagavad Gita

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u/PSPhotoWarrior — 2 months ago

A message from the Mods

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u/PSPhotoWarrior — 4 months ago

Rahu and Ketu : the good, the bad, the sinners and the saints Ambition, Power, Desire, Insanity and, Enlightenment

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Rahu and Ketu are the mysterious and difficult shadow grahas; having no existence in the material world, they are the points of eclipse where the light of the Sun and Moon are blocked from the sky. Rahu is famous for its ability to give fame and wealth; Ketu can be, on one end, a deeply spiritualizing graha, often referred to as the moksha karaka. Ketu, on the other end of the spectrum, can be explosive, violent, criminal, insane.... Rahu can have enormous blind ambition, addictions, and desire.

‘Rahu is associated with the outcaste community, and Ketu with mixed communities. The anthill is said to be the abode of Ketu (Śikhi), Rahu (Svarbhānu), and Saturn (Manda).’

‘Svarbhanu (Rahu) has a smoke-like appearance, a dark-blue body, dwells in the forest, and is terrifying. He has a Vata constitution and is intelligent. Shikhin (Ketu) is similar to him.’

‘Lead and worn-out clothes are assigned to Rahu. To Ketu, an earthen vessel and a multi-colored tapestry are indicated. For both of these dark planets, Mercury, Saturn, and Venus are friends. Mars is said to be neutral, while the remaining planets—the Sun, Moon, and Jupiter—are enemies.’

‘The two powerful shadow planets, Rahu and Ketu (tamograhau), strongly deliver the results of the houses they occupy and the results of the house lords with whom they are associated.’

Phaladipika

‘Rahu is described as having a blue radiance, a tall physique, and an unpleasant complexion. He is afflicted with skin diseases, holds heretical views, and suffers from hiccups. A speaker of untruths and deceit, Rahu is also associated with severe skin ailments. Devoid of discriminative intelligence, he is one who criticizes others.’

‘Rahu, the lord of serpents, produces results in accordance with the qualities and defects of the planet with which he is associated. A planet conjoined with Rahu, even if it is a natural benefic, will bring hardship and sorrow, delivering these difficult results with particular intensity at the very end of its major planetary period (Dasha).’

To begin with, the nodes are difficult. Rahu and Ketu are natural malefics and will always bring some of their difficult nature to wherever they sit and whoever they sit with. According to Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra, for better or worse, the nodes will give the results of the grahas that influence them; the grahas they sit with, are aspected by, as well as their rasi dispositors. Other authorities also use their nakshatra dispositors as well. They take on the yogas and promises of these grahas. Some say Ketu shares ownership of Scorpio, and Rahu of Aquarius. Others say Virgo and Pisces are their houses. Another principle is that Ketu acts like Mars and Rahu like Saturn.

In Vedic astrology, the 4 big bad boys in any chart are Rahu, Ketu, Mars, and Saturn. They are tamasic, harsh, challenging, and are considered an affliction in any area they influence. The malefics each have their own list of attributes, some good and some bad. All the grahas under the right placements and connections can bring wealth, fame, and success, as well as downfall, immorality, and poverty. But each graha injects his nature into all that he touches in a chart. 

To suss out how any graha will behave, how much it can give for good or bad, one has to consider the house, sign, strength, amsa placements, nakshatra, as well as PAC, i.e. position, aspect, and conjunctions it has. It's the synergy of these that will spin the graha toward desirable or undesirable results. Planets that sit together in the same sign exert an influence on each other. The closer they are to each other, the greater the influence. 

>Uttra Kalamirt by Kalidas has a fabulous section on the nodes:

Sloka 121⁄2-131⁄2: During the Dasa of Rahu,’ when he is favourable, he will confer on the native all that is best and desirable, a high position of authority, all kinds of virtues and wealth. The person will resort to holy shrines; will acquire sacred knowledge and power. If Rahu be untoward, the person will be liable to danger from reptiles, poison, disease and trouble all over the body, danger from missiles and fire, worst enmity, a fall from a tree and torments from enemies.

Sloka 17 1⁄2 - 18 1⁄2: If Rahu or Ketu be posited in the 6th, 8th or 12th house and -be conjoined with or aspected by any of the lords of these houses, they begin to afflict the native during their Dasas. If they conjoin with (Maraka) planets or with the lords of the Dusthanas, they bring about the death of the native. If they be associated with the lords of Kendra and Kona houses and be posited in the Dusthanas, they cause some happiness and then bring on death through diseases, wounds, misery, sword cuts, drowning or suicide.

Sloka 82. If on of the two nodes and the lord of a Trikona be posited in the 9th or 10th, or if one of them be in the 9th and the other in the 10th or vice versa, the Yoga, will cause prosperity to the native. Even a conjunction of either of these with the lord of a Kana will prove beneficial. In the above circumstances, the Dasas of these two nodes as we as those of the planets conjoined? With them will prove happy. If there were to be a planet who is inauspicious associated by a sort of (Sambandha) will either of the nodes, then the Bhukti of the Yoga-producing planet will prove adverse.

Sloka 83 : The two planets – Rahu and Ketu become auspicious when they occupy a Trikona or a Kendra position, or, when they are associated with the lord of that particular Kendra or Kona house in which they are posited they prove also beneficial when they conjoin with the lords of any Kendra or Kona house. If, in the above circumstance, the lord of the 9th were to own’ the 8th or the 12th as well) or if the lords of the 9th and 10th were to conjoin with the lords of the 8th or the 12th) then the auspiciousness of the Yoga is lost. The 8th house is termed the house of longevity.

There is a controversy about the nodes having aspects or not. Parasara does not mention them aspectng, while some nadi texts say they do have aspects.

21. ASPECTS: There has always been a controversy about the aspects of Rahu. Many writers feel that since it is a shadowy planet it cannot have any aspect. But many others use the aspects of Rahu for their predictions. Different writers give aspects of Rahu thus:

  1. The 5th, 7th,9th and the 12th according to some.
  2. The 5th and 7th according to others.
  3. Others take only the Sth, 7th and the 12th.

Mystery-of-Rahu-in-Horoscope by SIDV RAJ SHARMA/EDITOR KN Rao

The story of Samudra Manthan gives us the origins of Rahu and Ketu. Found in the Bhagavata Purana, Vishnu Purana, and the Mahabharata, the story tells of the churning of the ocean for the Amrita, the nectar of immortality. If somehow you don’t know the story, then you should immediately look it up. Long story short, a demon called Svarbhanu snuck into the gathering of the Gods where they were all drinking the Amirita. The Sun and the Moon outed him just as he was about to drink the elixer, Lord Vishnu cut off his head, but not before a drop of the elixer reached his mouth, making him immortal. Cut into two, Rahu became the head, the north node, and Ketu the body. 

>‘Chapter 5: On the Motion of Rāhu. Some say that this head of the Asura, though it was severed, was not forsaken by its life-breaths because of the extraordinary power of having tasted nectar. Indeed, it is said to have attained the status of a graha.’ Brihat Samhita

From the story of Samudra Manthan, we get several clues about the nature and qualities of these shadow grahas: not welcomed to sit with the high and mighty, lower class, not belonging, foreigners, differentness, rejection, deception, sneaky, gaslighting, misunderstandings, ambition, inappropriate, desire, revenge, annihilation….

In revenge, the nodes cursed the Sun and the Moon, the brightest objects in the sky. Usually, 4-5 times a year, they eclipse their light. 

>***‘***Indeed, though it possesses a form similar to the orbs of the Sun and Moon, it is invisible in the sky because of its inherent darkness. It becomes visible only at the time of an eclipse (parva-kāla), owing to a boon granted by Brahmā, the lotus-born creator.’ Brihat Samhita

Rahu and Ketu share some meanings: hidden subconscious forces in the mind, compulsions, drives, and obsessions, addictions, confusion, and misunderstandings. As well as hidden forces in the mind, science, society, and the universe. Things shrouded in mystery and fog, and hard to understand things, like events, illness, mystical and primal powers. The nodes can inflame, exaggerate, exacerbate, amplify, and intensify the qualities of the houses they occupy, often leading to driven and compulsive pursuits, sudden and unexpected events, while generating sudden and surprising phenomena. Their periods and transits can be times of being accused, wrongly or rightly; scandals, secrets, bad behaviors, lust, and distorted things, feelings, actions, and events. Strange characters may enter your life.

The nodes rebel against authority; the Sun and the Moon are the king and the queen, only Rahu and Ketu can block their light. The nodes are often described as not following tradition or the path of dharma; they move backwards, going against the normal course, creating rebels, political fanatics, anarchists, criminals, shiksters, and outsiders of every kind, as well as those with great ambition who can think outside of the box.

Here’s a list of famous people who have the nodal axis in houses one and seven, or have the lagna lord with a node. Influences on the lagna and/or lagna lord will show up powerfully in the life of the individual. Contrary to popular belief, having the nodes prominent in your chart will not doom you. But you may be a seeker, an innovator or visionary, have a lust for power or ambition, or somehow be an outsider or oddball, a stranger in a strange land, a rebel or a fanatic, cast out for your behavior or loved for your controversial antics or unusual qualities. 

Spiritual

Chaitanya Ketu H1 with Moon, Sun H7

Carlos Castananda Ketu H1

Pope Francis Ketu H1

Sri Sri Ravi Shankar Rahu with Lagna Lord 

Innovators

Martin Luther King Ketu 1st house, Lagna Lord H7

Spinoza Jupiter Rahu 1st house

Tony Robins Rahu 1st house, Lagna Lord with Ketu

Sigmond Freud Ketu 1st house, Lagna Lord Venus with Rahu

Dr. Ruth Rahu 1st house with Lagna Lord

Fame

jfk junior Rahu 1st house

Jackie Onassis Ketu 1st house

Princess Diane Lagna Lord Moon H10 with Rahu

Power

Trump Lagna Lord Sun H10 with Rahu

Napoleon Bonaparte Lagna Lord with Ketu

Benito Mussolini Rahu 1st house

Winston Churchill Lagna Lord with Ketu

George H Bush Rahu 1st house

Queen Elizabeth Ketu 1st house

King Charles Lagna Lord with Rahu H10

Prince Williams Ketu 1st house

Mitt Romney Rahu 1st house

Kevin McCarthy Rahu 1st house

Arts

Robin Williams Lagna Lord Venus with Ketu H11 & Moon with Rahu

Jim Carry Lagna Lord Venus with Ketu H4, several grahas H4

John Lennon Ketu 1st house

Janis Joplin Rahu 1st house

Justine Bieber Rahu 1st house

Doris Day Rahu 1st house with Saturn, Jupiter, Sun, and Mercury H7.

Mozart Rahu 1st house

Clint Eastwood Ketu 1st house

Roseanne Barr Rahu 1st house

Picasso Lagna Lord Moon debilitated with Rahu H5

Edgar Allen Poe Rahu 1st house

Mark Twain Rahu 1st house 

Anais Nin Rahu 1st house

Criminals

Joseph Goebbels Ketu 1st house

Andres Breivik Lagna Lord H6 with Ketu

Prince Williams Ketu 1st house

Ted Bundy Lagna Lord with Ketu H4

Luc Jouret Lagna Lord H12 with Ketu

David Koresh Rahu 1st house

Jim Baker lagna lord with Ketu

Johnny Depp

Johnny Depp

Johnny Depp gives us a wonderful example of many of the nodes’ themes. The most pivotal and important points in the chart are the lagna, the lagna lord, the karaka of the lagna-Sun, and the Moon. His lagna lord is the Moon, who sits with Ketu in his 6th house. In his Rahu dasa, he was the biggest and highest-paid star in the world. At his peak, he had $800,000,000. His Rahu is powerful in Gemini in the 12th house. He has often been portrayed as the bad boy, the hedonist, the criminal, a pirate (he’s often dressed as a pirate in public), and the odd man out, all themes of Rahu. He lived a life of drugs, sex, and rock and roll. He even had a rock band. Like Rahu, the 12th house can bring hedonism, addiction, dissipation, loss, and bed pleasures. 

Why would Rahu in the 12th house, a trik house of loss, be a time of such fame and wealth? This is where the influence of Rahu’s dispositors becomes central to understanding this period. He squandered the majority of his wealth and got lost in addiction and indulgence. All while being world famous and still having a couple of hundred million dollars left. Note that his rasi dispositor of Rahu is Mercury, who owns 2 dustana houses. Mercury, as the lord of the house of loss, sits with the lords of the 2 money houses, H2 & 11, who make a Dhana Yoga in a money house. Venus is the lord of the house of gains, in his own sign. This is great for wealth. The 11th house is called the great multiplier by KN Rao. But, Mercury and Venus are in a war. The lord of the house of gains, with the lord of the house of loss. Venus, the lover of sex, luxury, style, and wealth. He made the most money and lost most of that money in his Rahu dasa. Meanwhile, Rahu’s nakshatra dispositor is Jupiter, who sits powerfully in the 9th house, the house of good fortune. This powerful Jupiter blesses the other trinal houses with his aspects, giving some measure of good luck and prosperity. 

Note that Venus and Mercury sit in the fixed star of Agol: “the malignant spirit”, “the devil”, “Satan’s Head”, “the ghost”, “the frightful phantom”, “the ogre”, “the cannibal”. The word derives from ghâla, “to enrapture,” and this verb means “to take various forms”. It was his behavior in his Rahu dasa that led to his internationally famous trial with Amber Heard where his Rahu behaviors were used against him by Heard’s defense team.

Dasa Chidra is the last sub-period of a dasa and is often a time of difficulties and unexpected challenges. Rahu Mars is the end of the Rahu dasa, and for Depp, it was the period of September 2012-August 2013. At the beginning of 2012, Rahu Moon, he was the highest paid actor and one of the most popular actors in the world. He had just begun his relationship with Amber Heard. She reported that the first time he was violent to her was the end of 2012. Also in this period, the movie he starred in The Lone Ranger bombed, becoming one of the biggest box office failures. This was the start of a series of his movies that had bad reviews and commercial failure. His star was beginning to fade. 

There is an idea out there that the 12th house and its lord is movies. Here we see the dasa lord Rahu in the 12th.

Which signs the nodes gain strength is a topic of much disagreement. Determining the strength of a graha is one of the very first considerations when considering how a graha will behave in a chart.

Brihat Parasara Hora Shatra

‘Taurus is to be known as the sign of exaltation for Rahu, and Scorpio is the exaltation sign for Ketu. Furthermore, Gemini and Sagittarius should be understood as their moolatrikona signs, respectively.’ 

‘Aquarius and Scorpio are declared as the two houses [for Rahu and Ketu, respectively]. Some authorities also state Virgo and Pisces as their houses. When they are well-placed, their dasha periods bestow much happiness and the prosperity of wealth, grains, and other assets.’

'During the major period of Ketu, if the sub-period lord Rahu is situated in its sign of exaltation, in a friendly sign, or in its own sign; and is placed in an angular house (kendra), a trine house (trikona), the 11th house of gains, the 3rd house, or the 2nd house of wealth, then the following results manifest.’

So what we see is that both sign and house placements contribute to favorable outcomes in the nodes periods. Ideally, we want the nodes in a friend’s sign, their own sign, or exalted, in an angle or trine, and aspected by strong benefics.

Ketu is the moksha karaka, and the 12 house ketu with a benefic is thought of as a fantastic moksha combination. Pices in the natural zodiac is in the 12th house. 

Jataka Parijata

When Rahu is exalted, the native may be a leader of unconventional people, the best of his lineage, brave, a performer of questionable deeds, yet wealthy. With an exalted Ketu, one may engage in secretive acts and be favored by a lowly ruler.

For Rahu, the lord of serpents, Aquarius is its Moolatrikona, Gemini is its exaltation, and Virgo is its own sign.

An exalted graha is said to be supremely powerful and can dramatically express its qualities, for better or for worse. Malefic grahas will always bring some challenge and stress in relation to their nature, even when powerful, well placed, and in yogas. 

There are a couple of unique principles about the power of the nodes. One is that the nodes are more powerful at the very end or beginning of a bhava, while the other grahas are said to be more powerful around the midpoint of a bhava. The nodes are always retrograde, but sometimes stop their motion and become stationary. This amplifies their power, and one may see their themes expressed intensely at this time, especially if they stop close to an important spot in a chart, like the lagna degree, a graha running its dasa, or the midpoint of a bhava. Always note where they are transiting and when the dasa bhukti is of one of them. If, for example, you are in a Jupiter dasa or bhukti and Rahu transits your Jupiter, it’s likely Rahu’s qualities will show up in your life experience. Also, it is said that the nodes become more powerful during an eclipse. 

Donald Trump

Donald Trump

All of these points lead me to the incredible chart of Donald Trump. Trump was born during an eclipse (and a Red Moon), his Rahu is exalted, and sits at the end of Taurus in Migashira. Furthermore, Rahu makes a powerful Raja Yoga with the dig bala lagna lord, in the powerful 10th house! Wow, top that. The 10th house is the house of leaders and CEOs, so the Sun does well there. Note that if you spin the chart, rotating to both the Sun and the Moon as lagnas, you see powerful yogas from all 3 lagnas involving the nodes, as well as other grahas. Trump has lived a life of privilege and status, always being in charge. He loves kings and leaders, palatial buildings, and the color gold. 

Rahu ‘In the 10th house, one is famous, …. is devoid of good deeds, and is fearless.’ Phaladipika

While his Rahu is a player in this great power he has achieved, Rahu’s karaka qualities have colored his lagna lord Sun. Sun is also the karaka of the 1st house. Trump’s personal life is a mess; he’s been accused by some 30 women of sexual assault, he has a long list of scandals and criminal conduct, he’s a convicted felon, found guilty by a jury for sexual abuse (the judge in that case said the jury’s sexual abuse verdict was rape), and has a history of revenge, encouraging violence, bullying, getting into battles, starting wars and lawsuits, all Rahu attributes.

During Trump’s Rahu dasa, his wealth rose dramatically, and he gained international fame with his series ‘The Apprentice’. At the end of his Rahu dasa, Rahu Mars, he became the president of the United States of America. His Rahu is as powerful as it can be!

Elon Musk

Elon Musk

Elon Musk has also had a historic rise in his career, power, fame, and wealth in his Rahu dasa. He has become the richest person in the world and perhaps in history. He has an exalted Mars, sitting very close to Rahu in the 8th house. His birth data was recently published in a biography. He is in his Rahu period now. Mars is his yogi, his wealth-giving graha, according to Sheshdri Iyer’s system. Mars is at the highest degree of exaltation, very close to the Shri Pati mid-point of the house. He is also forming Harsha Yoga, lord of the 6th house in a trik: 

‘Phaladipika  A person born under Harsha Yoga is endowed with happiness, enjoyment, good fortune, and a strong physique. He overcomes his enemies, is fearful of committing sin, and becomes beloved by famous and eminent people. Indeed, he possesses wealth, splendor, friends, fame, and children.’ 

Additionally, Mars gains strength by being in his own nakshatra and close to the mid point. All of this while being the lord of the 11th house of gains, and aspecting back into his house. 

Rahu will take on the qualities and results of the grahas he sits with, is aspected by, as well as his dispositors. This Mars is insanely powerful, while being the yogi in the 8th. Rahu absorbs this and acts accordingly. 

When two natural malefics come together in a house, there will be challenges in accordance with their nature, strength, and karaka qualities. Mars, Saturn, and the nodes are the bad ass malefics. These 2 bad boys in Musk’s 8th house has to come with it’s problems, and his life is full of the qualities we’d expect from these malefics in a trik house. Musk has 14 children, that we know of, from several women, none of whom he is emotionally committed to. He has a long trail of legal fights, romantic fights, and fights with the president. 

Musk’s 2nd house is extremely afflicted. Ketu is in the 2nd house of speech, family, and things you put in your mouth. Mars and Saturn also aspect. So that’s 3 malefics afflicting the themes of the second house, including the things that come out of or go into your mouth, like speech, substances you take in like food or drugs. He’s reported to have harsh, inappropriate, cutting, and mean speech to his employees and family. According to the New York Times he carries a pill box of various pharmaceuticals to manage his moods and for fun. He’s told tales of pot and LSD parties. Investors in his companies have complained about his lifestyle. He’s a major genius in some ways, and a total fool in others.

Musk has had an amazing career path, having started or cofounded 8 companies and had big leadership roles in 3 more. These companies include software, an online bank, an aerospace manufacturer, space transport, AI, neurotechnology, infrastructure and tunnel construction, online software for city guides, electric cars, energy-related products, and social media. Look at how the themes of Mars and Rahu overlap with Musk’s many and varied business achievements.

Rahu related careers include: management experts, researchers, innovators, engineers, electricity, IT, internet, wireless telephone, aviation, space, pilots, air hostesses, space engineers, travel and tourism operators.

Mars is a hot and fiery planet. A good Mars gives logical and analytical reasoning. Mars careers include: independence, leadership, masculinity, pioneering thrust, boldness, initiative, engineering, construction, dismantling, explosions, heat, combustion, energy, machinists, steel, technicians, mechanics, and metals. 

Bill Gates

Bill Gates Jyotish

Bill Gates founded Microsoft at the beginning of his Ketu dasa. Ketu is computers, innovation, precision, fine details, languages, like computer language. Ketu sits in the house of large scale endevors and entrepreneurial efforts. The 11th house is called the great multiplier by KN Rao, and can give friends in high places, wealth, and the pleasures money affords. Ketu will give the results of his dispositors. Venus is his sign dispositor and sits in his own sign in the 4th house, making Malavia Yoga while powerfully aspecting and supporting his house of career. Ketu’s nakshatra dispositor is Mars who sits in the house of computers, the 3rd house with Mercury. Mercury is also connected to computers, calculations, numbers, math, software, language, communications, etc. The 3/9 axis is often referred to as the IT axis. Mars is making a Chandra Mangala Yoga, which can give wealth.

Bob Dylan

Bob Dylan Jyotish birth chart

Dylan began his rise in his Mars dasa. Mars sits in Shatabisha, a nakshatra associated with rebels and overindulgence. In his Rahu dasa, he switched from political acoustic folk songs to electric blues-based rock and roll. Rahu is the lord of Shatabisha and goes to Virgo in the 11th house, both a sign and house Rahu is happy in. In his Mars and Rahu periods he lived the life of drugs, sex and rock and roll. 

Rahu Rahu Venus he wrote Like A Rolling Stone, considered by many as one of the best rock songs. 

He got married in Rahu Rahu Sun. Rahu is a very common time for marriage, and Rahu Venus is famous for being a likely time for marriage, assuming other supporting factors are there. In his case, Rahu is in a nakshatra of the Sun, and the Sun is in the 7th house of marriage with a powerful 7th lord, Venus, who is also the karaka for marriage for a man.

In Rahu Jupiter Jupiter he was in a serious motorcycle accident that put him in the hospital. Jupiter is a maraka lord in a maraka house, aspecting Rahu. Venus is a maraka lord and lord of the 12th house of hospitals, and also the karaka of vehicles. Mars is the karaka of accidents, and also is the lord of the 6th house of accidents. He stopped doing drugs after this accident.

Crime, Immorality and Debauchery - The Mind, the Manus and the Intellect

The nodes can lead one into bad behaviors of all sorts. When the nodes influence the factors for the mind, the self, the soul, or the morals, we can find thoughts, beliefs, and or behaviors that can be seen as eccentric, unusual, unconventional, original, innovative, outside the box, bizarre, insane, or criminal. Their influence on the factors for the mind or

The 4th house is emotions, the sensitive, feeling part of the mind. Moon is the karaka.

The 5th house is the buddhi, the rational, linear, thinking mind that analyses and discriminates; its karaka is Mercury.

The 1st house is self, ego, status, how integrated you are, your capacity, potential, character, nature, sense of self, ahankara, virtue, capacity, potential, tendencies, vitality, and health. The Sun is the karaka.

Benefic influences on these factors can lift up, support, and turn the malefic influences into more favorable qualities.

Jupiter can expand, be optimistic, big hearted, generous, see the best in life, you feel like you can do things, Growth and expansion, humanitarian and spiritual outlook, sattva, wisdom, faith, geniality, generosity, joviality, humor, idealism, good powers of judgement.

Malefic influences on these factors can lead to less than ideal thought, feelings, and behaviors, which may lead to unethical and immoral behaviors of all sorts.

Saturn, when afflicted, might bring contraction, cold pessimism, avoidance, a contracted heart, critical, fear, controlling, and cruelty.

Mars, when weak and stressed, can be impulsive, impatient, angry, explosive, and even violent.

The karaka qualities of any graha will be challenged when they join a node. Jupiter lifts up Rahu, as Rahu pulls down Jupiter, especially if Rahu is stronger and there is also malefic influence. 

Timothy McVeigh: Domestic Terrorist - Mass Murderer - Racist

Timothy McVeigh was a white Christian nationalist who blew up a government building on April 19, 1995. 167 people died, including 19 children, and 684 people were injured. 

Timothy McVeigh Jyotish chart

For a Gemini lagna, Mercury is lord of the 1st, the 4th, and is always the karaka of the rational mind. His Mars and Sun are very strong and easily dominate this weak and combusted Mercury. His thinking and identity were tied up with his military revolutionary friends. His emotions (Mercury as lord of H4) were afflicted by this combination of 2 fiery malefics. In his case, this brings anger, hatred, heat, and explosive emotions and thoughts. Mars and Sun are a famous combination often found in the charts of military, police, and people who are in some way involved with violence and battles. Adolf Hitler, who was also a racist nationalist, had Sun, Mars, and Mercury in Aries. Sun and Mars together do not always make a violent person. In this case, all of the malefics influence either the 4th house of emotions or its lord Mercury.

In his 10th house are Rahu, Saturn, and Venus, all in the same degree! Saturn and Venus are in a war, which happens when 2 planets are in the same degree. Venus wins and steals some of Saturn’s energy, while Saturn is left devastated, weak, and highly afflicted by Rahu. Saturn is the lord of the 8th house, which can indicate dark and mysterious things, death, destruction, war, criminals, sudden transformation, secrets, and searing pain. Saturn is also the lord of the 9th house of philosophy. His philosophy is seen in this toxic, unstable grouping of Venus, Saturn, and Rahu. Malefics joining with the nodes is generally going to disturb their karaka qualities and the houses they own and sit in.

He set off the bomb in his Saturn Jupiter Jupiter period, at the end of his Saturn dasa, aka Dasa Chidra. This was his life’s mission; he saw it as a self-sacrificing act of patriotism. Venus is the lord of his 5th house, the house of the intellectual part of the mind; what one thinks about can be seen through looking at the house, lord, and the karaka (Mercury). Rahu has a distorting effect, exaggerating and bringing a smoky, toxic veil of confusion. Now look at the dispositors in play here. His afflicted Mercury is the nakshatra dispositor of Venus, Saturn, and Rahu. Jupiter’s dispositor is Ketu, famous for terrorists and explosions. Ketu sits in the 4th house, buildings.

Charles Manson: Cult Leader, Murderer, and Racist

Charles Manson

Manson has Rahu and Saturn together in his 10th house, like McVeigh. He had big crazy ambitions for starting a race war, also like McVeigh. Both have Ketu in the house of emotions, not helpful for emotional stability and domestic sukha. Manson also has his Moon on this axis, so the nodes and Saturn afflict house, lord, and karaka for manas and emotions.

Jataka Parijata: Rahu, the tormentor of the Moon, inflicts great fear upon people. He causes afflictions through epilepsy, demonic influences, strangulation, excessive hunger, eye diseases, parasites, and disturbances from ghosts, ghouls, and elemental spirits. Furthermore, he brings about conditions like hanging, loss of appetite, and severe skin diseases such as leprosy.

Ted Bundy: Serial Killer

Jyotish chart of Ted Bundy

Bundy murdered over 30 women between his Venus Rahu period and his Venus Saturn period. Note that his 4th house of the manas and emotions has 5 planets that provide multiple afflictions disrupting his emotional health. An important basic general principle is to see if a bhava has serious afflictions to the house, lord, and karaka, as we see here with the 4th house, lord Mars, and karaka Moon. The 4th house is full of heat and volatile grahas in the house of emotions. Mars and Moon make a powerful passion combination that is further exacerbated and twisted by Ketu. His murders were committed in an insane explosion of sadistic sexual frenzy. Influencable Mercury takes on the malefic nature of the 3 natural malefics, and Moon is dark and debilitated, hence considered malefic. Again, we see Mars and Sun together and very afflicted. Ketu sits in Passa drekkana, and Mercury, Sun and Ketu sit in a Sarpa drekkana.

Passa: noose, snare, trap, tie, cord, die or dice, anything that binds or traps the soul, i.e., the outer world, bondage, addictions.

Sarpa: confinement of any kind on any level, imprisonment, restrained, serpent, wily demon, snake, a wicked man, a cheat, deceptive, manipulative, cunning, seductive, sexual, a traveler, Rahu, poison, coldness, ashlesha meanings, addiction, psychological problems, paralyze.

None of these afflictions to the 4th, by themselves, makes a serial killer, it’s the synergy of the multitude of afflictions that create Ted Bundy.

Dylan Klebold

Dylan Klebold Jyotish natal chart

Dylan Klebold was one of the shooters who killed 12 students at Columbine High School. Klebold was running his Rahu Ketu dasa bhukti. A debilitated Mars afflicts both nodes. Mars is lord of the 8th house and is the karaka of violence and weapons. 

The 8th house and its lord are seen as the most challenging bhava in a chart. The dasa of the 8th lord, planets in the 8th, aspecting the 8th, and associating with the 8th are all called Chidras. Chidras can, in their dasa bhukti, when triggered by difficult transits, bring a challenging event. If the players are very weak and afflicted, like this debilitated Mars, in bad yogas, etc., then perhaps something very harsh can happen. The 8th bhava and its lord are associated with: death, violence, criminality, endings, accidents, sudden events, painful mishaps, stress, agony, and imprisonment. 

Saturn plays a big role in this event. He is the sign dispositor of Ketu and the nakshatra dispositor of Mars. Saturn is in an Arista Yoga with the lagna lord, in the lagna. Jupiter is the lord of the house of emotions and a maraka. Saturn is the lord of the 5th house of the rational thinking mind. Mercury is the karaka of the 5th. So we see the mind and emotions very afflicted during this time. 

Transits trigger the results promised by the dasa bhukti. In the transit chart below, we see the nodes are transiting their natal positions. Ketu is aspected by both Mars and Saturn. Saturn, the lord of the 5th is by transit debilitated in the 8th and aspected by Mars and Sun.

‘…when the transiting RKA is over natal RKA it is generally a difficult period if the dasha is not favourable.’ KN Rao

Dylan Klebold Jyotish transit chart

A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada 

A C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada 

Swami Prabhupada brought the Hare Krishna mantra and the teachings of "Krishna consciousness" to the West. According to a devotee, his Jupiter Ketu period was the height of the movement he created in the USA. His Jupiter Ketu are in his 8th house, a moksha house with Sun, aspected by Mars. Sun, Mars, and Jupiter are moksha lords, and Ketu is the moksha karaka, all in a moksha house. Jupiter and Sun make a powerful Veetpreet Raja Yoga. Note that his Jupiter and Ketu are in the 10th house of the D10-career. His chart is lifted up by a long list of yogas and several spiritual yogas.

KN Rao

KN Rao - D1 & D9

Ketu is the moksha karaka, and the 12-house Ketu with a strong benefic is thought of as a fantastic combination that promotes moksha and spirituality. Shri Rao has been both an innovator and steeped in the traditions of Vedic wisdom, always encouraging his students to follow the path of Dharma.

Finally, I want to caution you about jumping to conclusions about your own chart because of something you have seen in this article. Jyotish is complex, deep, and nuanced. You usually need to see multiple factors indicating something before you can conclude anything. One placement in a chart will never be enough to conclude that you will be prosperous or poor, a sinner or a saint, high achieving or low functioning.

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