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Image 1 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)
Image 2 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)
Image 3 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)
Image 4 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)
Image 5 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)
Image 6 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)
Image 7 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)
Image 8 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)
Image 9 — VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)

VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)

Hey guys,

Looking for a quick sanity check on a VSF 41mm Submariner I just got.

Comparing it side-by-side with my Starbucks and my no-date 41mm Sub, the crystal on this one sits noticeably higher up. I know a tiny bit of the chamfered edge is supposed to protrude past the ceramic bezel insert, but this one feels like it's pushing the limit. I can't tell if this is just within normal VSF/rep tolerances, or if it's a real issue I should be worried about (like compromised water resistance or an obvious aesthetic "tell").

To make things more confusing, I noticed the bezel assembly was lifting and warped upward significantly on one side (shown in the photos with the massive gap underneath the teeth). Whenever I press down on the sides of the bezel I hear a faint click, there is zero wobble and the bezel does not shift vertically or horizontally. Crazy thing is out of my three subs, this one with the "issue" has the best click experience when you turn the bezel, the others feel dry. Maybe the other two are the issue?

First four pictures are of VSF 41mm date-sub, also included pictures of my VSF 41mm no date and my VSF Starbucks for reference.

My questions for the sub:

  1. Does this crystal height look within normal QC tolerances for a VSF 41mm, or does it look like it isn't fully seated in the gasket?
  2. Could the tall crystal be related to that lifting bezel? (e.g., if the internal Hytrel ring was pinched/kinked and pushing things out of whack?)

Appreciate any second opinions from the experts or Watchsmiths here!

u/PVNOLGCH — 2 days ago

VSF 41mm Sub (126610) - Crystal height higher than my other 41mm Subs? (Plus bezel issue)

Hey guys,

Looking for a quick sanity check on a VSF 41mm Submariner I just got.

Comparing it side-by-side with my Starbucks and my no-date 41mm Sub, the crystal on this one sits noticeably higher up. I know a tiny bit of the chamfered edge is supposed to protrude past the ceramic bezel insert, but this one feels like it's pushing the limit. I can't tell if this is just within normal VSF/rep tolerances, or if it's a real issue I should be worried about (like compromised water resistance or an obvious aesthetic "tell").

To make things more confusing, I noticed the bezel assembly was lifting and warped upward significantly on one side (shown in the photos with the massive gap underneath the teeth). Whenever I press down on the sides of the bezel I hear a faint click, there is zero wobble and the bezel does not shift vertically or horizontally. Crazy thing is out of my three subs, this one with the "issue" has the best click experience when you turn the bezel, the others feel dry. Maybe the other two are the issue?

First four pictures are of VSF 41mm date-sub, also included pictures of my VSF 41mm no date and my VSF Starbucks for reference.

My questions for the sub:

  1. Does this crystal height look within normal QC tolerances for a VSF 41mm, or does it look like it isn't fully seated in the gasket?
  2. Could the tall crystal be related to that lifting bezel? (e.g., if the internal Hytrel ring was pinched/kinked and pushing things out of whack?)

Appreciate any second opinions from the experts or Watchsmiths here!

u/PVNOLGCH — 2 days ago

Did Mr. Chen (NYC Chinatown) stop working on reps, or was he just too busy?

Hey everyone, looking for some insight from NYC locals or anyone who frequently visits Mr. Chen in Chinatown.

Long story short: I recently got a VSF 41mm Submariner with a slightly wobbly bezel. I tried a "hack" I read about—threading dental floss underneath the bezel to tighten the rotation. Big mistake. The floss jammed the mechanism completely, and now the bezel won't budge.

Based on recommendations here, I took a cab down to Mr. Chen’s shop at 3 PM on a Saturday to see if he could pop the bezel off and clear out the floss. The place was absolutely packed (waited in line outside).
When he finally inspected it under a loupe, he handed it right back and simply said, "I don't work on ceramic watches."

For those who know him: Did I just get a polite rejection because he doesn’t actually service reps anymore? Or was he likely just too overwhelmed by the Saturday rush to take on a tedious dental floss extraction?

Please post the last time anyone went there and your experience.

Also appreciate any feedback or alternative NYC smith recommendations!

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