Any historical examples of owners of means of production working with the Proletariate

I was reading the manifesto and I wondered, are there any historical examples of people who own the means of production working together to take down the petite bourgeoisie? I can grasp it theoretically but I know no historic examples, history is not my forte.

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The subject of the first sentence is the bourgeoisie

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u/Pantomimos — 2 days ago

Is it fair to include longstanding comic characeters in our discussions?

The thing about characters such as batman is that they have been authored by hundreds of people. This is a bit unfair because the probability of a top tier batman coming into existence increases. With characters from other forms of creative writing the author usually has only one chance to make the character everything they want to be. Comic characters with multiple authors should not be in our discussions. Is batman smart or is the "idea" of batman smart?

I can imagine someone trying to counterargue and say long webnovels should also not count because the longer, the 'more chances' the author has to make a character better. Which is not a bad argument but I belive we should carefully evaluate them, for example, I would not be surprised if Oda began connecting dots from future to past to give the illusion of foreshadowing, when in reality he did not originally think that far ahead, rather he thought that far back, not ahead. Things like dao of the bizzare immortal on the other hand show clear continuity and foresight.

In conclusion, I comic characters with multiple authors should not be considered in our conversation, it's no different to going "naruto from the wattpad fanfic "unveiling the hidden village" is top tier intelligence!!" Doesn't that sound ridiculous?

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u/Pantomimos — 5 days ago

Are there Undisputed top tier upper eceholen characters?

Mid tiers and Low tiers usually have debates on their rankings but are there any characters who are at the top of top tiers without doubt or debate?

Edit: except fang yuan and jiang zhe

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u/Pantomimos — 5 days ago

Lore established intelligence means nothing to it's meta

I've seen far too many characters be classified as top tiers or mid tiers when their feats are pre-established or offscreen. To give an example, Johan: Yes, the pieces come together, but he is lore smart, we don't see his planning, what information he had to make said plans and his strategies unfolding. Dr Tenma is smarter meta-wise. Another thing that makes a character's lore smart is specs. A character having photographic memory or having high academic qualifications should never be a factor when scaling. Look at Fang Yuan, there's never been a time where the author called him intelligent or gave him a background that establishes him as being intelligent. The only background given to him is experience so that his strategies don't seem too intricate for his age. When scaling or even considering a character, we should only ever speak about on screen feats which we see unfolding, everything else is inconsequential.

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u/Pantomimos — 9 days ago