Retainer Rules Question
I decided to add a Retainer 3 to my character sheet. But the rules on retainer are unclear and spiraling out of control!
Retainer 2... A ghoul, a family servant, a human lover, or a dominated thrall: give them a backstory. Build them as an Average mortal or as a Ghoul with no Advantages
okay an average mortal or ghoul with no advantages... but ghouls dont have advantages from what i see in their stat block unless they mean the disciplines: one discipline at 1.
edit: someone brought up that when they say Ghoul with no Advantages they didn't mean the ghoul stat block but the ghoul creator which has
Making a Ghoul
* The ghoul gains the first dot in one of their master’s Disciplines, along with a single level 1 power possessed by the vampire. This only happens on their first drink, but very old ghouls have been known to display additional powers.
* The aging process halts, sometimes even setting the clock back a few years.
* Wounds heal twice as fast, unless caused by fire.
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Retainer 3... A retainer competent enough to act independently and make lesser problems go away. They are likely a **ghoul with traits equivalent to Gifted mortals**, on top of their supernatural abilities.
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Making a Gifted Mortal
* Attributes: One at 4, two at 3, two at 2, the rest at 1
* Skills: Two at 4 (one with a Specialty), four at 3, four at 2, four at 1
* Advantages: up to 10 points (4 points maximum Flaws)
Question 1 my first thought was infinite retainers? Retainer of a ...retainer of a retainer of a retainer of character the internet says it isn't allowed but didn't cite rules, their argument was that your vampire had retainer 3, so that was max. but then this makes me think the retainer pools its total dots with vampire which leads to the next question
Question 2 if your vampire had 4 points in resources, couldn't the retainer take resource 1and pool it for 5 resources? if you can't then why cant you take retainer on your retainer for infinite retainers. i agree this is a dumb question.
Question 3: so i dont want any flaws, and maximum implies i control it, which means i can set the maximum flaws to 0, thus 10-0 is 10 points of merits/backgrounds??
To make a ghoul you apply it to a mortal stat block
Making a Ghoul
* The ghoul gains the first dot in one of their master’s Disciplines, along with a single level 1 power possessed by the vampire. This only happens on their first drink, but very old ghouls have been known to display additional powers.
* The aging process halts, sometimes even setting the clock back a few years.
* Wounds heal twice as fast, unless caused by fire.
---update: Made an example: Using the gifted mortal creator ,and the the ghoul creator.i have this for a driver/bodyguard
RETAINER 3 (Gifted Mortal)
Attributes: One at 4, two at 3, two at 2, the rest at 1
WITS 4,
DEXTERITY 3, STRENGTH 3
STAMINA 2, RESOLVE 2
Skills:
Skills: Two at 4 (one with a Specialty), four at 3, four at 2, four at 1
AWARENESS 4, ATHLETICS 4
BRAWL 3: grappling, FIREARMS 3, STEALTH 3, DRIVE 3
STREETWISE 2, MEDICINE 2, Technology 2, Etiquette 2
Advantages:
Advantages: up to 10 points (4 points maximum Flaws)
Allies 4 (Security Team)
Contacts 3 ()?
Ghoul
* The ghoul gains the first dot in one of their master’s Disciplines, along with a single level 1 power possessed by the vampire. This only happens on their first drink, but very old ghouls have been known to display additional powers.
Presence: Cloud Memory
Question 4) What does possess mean? If i as a vampire Have Dominate 1: Compel on my character sheet. Does that count as possessed? What about Dominate Cloud memory, is that possessed? If it was possessed would their ghoul be able to gain Dominate 1: Cloud Memory, or is this considered not possessed?