Taking one for the team...Listening to the Jay Shetty episode now.
First...as y'all knew, no accent 🤣
And the deception begins early!
"I grew up always wanting to be exactly who I am." Ohhhh, so that's why you use filters and threading and botox and filler?
Update 1: Her mom is a professional artist and her dad is an antique collector and appraiser? Have y'all ever heard that???
Update 2: She was already using winged eyeliner when she was 10? Honest question, was that even a thing back then?
Update 3: She made a youtube channel when she was 10??? ETA: And later she says "between 12 and 14" like GIRL THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE
Update 4: In one breath she says, "I'm a very insecure person, I struggle a lot with my self esteem, but I have a lot of confidence about who I am." wut? 🤨
U5: Both her parents own businesses? What is her mom's business? I can't remember ever hearing this stuff about her parents. Also, I could have sworn earlier in the episode she said she was 10 when her mom gave her the Avon catalog and told her to circle what she wanted, but later it was 8? 🤔
U6: So in her DECA competition in HS she won by submitting a 50-page direction on how to succeed in business and the judges were blown away 😐
U7: She mentioned when she was younger looking up to a list of MUA including James Charles...I think I would have left that one out 😬
U8: She made sure she mentioned that she donated that makeup to her HS - she said it was 20 huge bags? I only saw her take in like 4 but maybe she didn't film all of it? All the girls came to the cafeteria and went crazy? I don't remember seeing anyone in the halls when she went...?
U9: Ahhh, cue the crying at 23 minutes in...silence for almost 25 seconds! She applied to Ulta as a cashier and the manager told her he didn't want her to be a cashier, he wanted her to be a MUA. Was she not a cashier? That's what I thought I'd heard - I don't remember her working on the floor.
U10: "no one" wore makeup at her college? Somehow I doubt that...
U11: She was being onboarded for an HR position at Ulta? Did I hear that right? I'm honestly confused, I thought she wanted to be in makeup, not HR?
U12: Okay, now she says her mom is a school counselor, which I thought was more accurate. But she's a professional artist and owns her own business too? Really? I mean, not saying that's not possible and that people haven't done that, but consider the source...
U13: Her family had chickens? Huh. I didn't remember anything like that.
U14 (I'm up to 37 minutes): So she had cystic acne and did her first TT transition video and showed her "before" with the acne and then the "after" she had "flawless skin" and no one could tell in person she had the acne? Honey, I had that condition for YEARS and trust me, PEOPLE CAN TELL. EDIT: She got 15 million views in 24h on this TT??
U15: THE PRODUCTS SHE SHOWED IN THAT TT SOLD OUT FOR MONTHS??? ARE YOU BSFFR RN???🤣
U16: They didn't watch the video for the techniques, they watched because they liked her.
U17: Jay: "Anything you say, people obsess over and talk about!" Yeah, that's what happens when you're a compulsive liar.
U18: HAHAHAHAHA!!!! I knew it was coming! "I DON'T USE FILTERRRRRS" "I had not gotten this kind of hate before" GIRL if you consider people calling you out on your lies "hate"... ETA: "When I see these hate videos, I know my character, I know that what I see online isn't true, so that's why it doesn't affect me like it used to" Yep, we know how unbothered our Qween is!
U19: Ohhhh, here comes Lashgate...she said it didn't bother her because a few months prior she'd been cancelled because of the "try being an influencer for a day" thing and that it was "taken out of context" (oh, stfu) - she says she deleted it within seconds but somehow I doubt that...but THEN she says it didn't blow up until years later. Okay, so which is it??? GOD, she talks in circles!!!! But she never addresses Lashgate directly. Of course.
U20: she says the minute she walks into her bedroom at night the phone gets put away...but how many times have we seen her take photos of herself "stressing" over something in the bed? ETA: SHE BLOCKED HER OWN NAME ON TT so her videos don't come up in her feed...yet she responds to comments????
U21: 15 million followers in 2-3 years? Is that accurate?
U22: "I have never experienced influencer fatigue" narcs usually don't! EDIT: "influencer fatigue comes from a lack of authenticity" OHHHH BOY 🤣 ETA: "If you begin to feel fatigued, take a step back...what can I do differently? I've had those moments, I've switched things up...to make sure I'm not being repetitive" OHHHH you mean like all those literal re-do videos of you and Z vs. you and C? 🤣
U23: Mmmm, here's the discussion on the accent. "Well, people right now are saying, 'Well, where is it?' HAR HAR HAR" She claims the reason her accent isn't as strong sometimes is because she has a degree in communication so she can "codeswitch" at will. Funny...I have seen many, MANY Boston/Mass. natives saying their GRANDPARENTS don't even talk like that! When she's around her friends and family that she's comfortable with, that's when the accent comes out. PLEASE 🙄 She claims the KIM KAHDAHHSHIAN thing was her "being silly". And along with that she basically flat-out stated that any views, good or bad, is positive for her.
U24: Ope! Here's the Cody discussion! Here we go, blowing up his whole rehab story like it's hers to tell 😐
U25: She says she's reaching the part of her career where people recognize her out in public and Cody is having a hard time with it, but in the same breath she says it was Covid so almost no one was out???
U26: "helping me with my videos" yeah, you forced him into them...
U27: Jay: "I really appreciate your honesty" BWAHAHAHAHA🤣 Good one, Jay!
U28: (I don't know how many characters I'm allowed in this text box, lol) She supported Cody in his sobriety journey. By drinking around him and displaying "empty" wine bottles in the house? And she said she went with him to his AA meetings...is that even possible? AA is ANONYMOUS, no? Does anyone know? ETA: Google says "Open AA" meetings are open for family members or friends.
U29: She's supposed to be a communications major but she says "Cody and I's relationship"??? Oh yeah, I forgot - I read that paper of hers 😬 ETA: AAARRRGHHHH she said it twice!
U30: She's claiming she walked away from the marriage because Cody kept relapsing and she realized she couldn't help him and be an influencer too - but yet she implies in some of her posts how horrible of a person he is and implies that he was abusive??
U31: Oh boy, turn on the tears again...she woke up at 1am and Cody wasn't in the bed and she found him hunched over unconscious (Oh, he's 6'2"? I thought he was 6'4"), and she had to call 911. ETA: The 911 dispatcher told her to slap him as hard as she could to bring him out of it?? Is that a thing??
U32 (1h 26m, thank GOD) "I was not the partner Cody needed - I've never said that before"
"Neither Cody nor I knew who we were"
"We were too young to know what marriage is"
"It was too early in his sobriety journey and too soon to be looking for a partner"
"That is what led to me deciding we need to get a divorce"
U33: "It would be so unfair of me to come on here and blame Cody for everything"
Jay asked if she'd talked to Cody about this and she says, "In (brief?? mic went out). Not as in depth as this." Sooo...you talked to a stranger about this but not your husband??
U34: Cody said to her, "I wish you'd just acknowledge you put your career above me" and she said "I failed Cody as a partner *crying*" Hmm, you better go back and change all those nasty posts about him, huh?
U35: HANG ON...she says she decided on the divorce in January 2025...isn't that the date of the "You're Gonna Want to Sit Down For This" debacle? Yet we have proof she was with Z before that??
U36: She says she was sitting with Cody in rehab on Christmas Day (of course we have video footage of her crying, included in her crying montage) and they decided to get a divorce then and there...got the lawyers, Cody moved out, SHES ABOUT TO BECOME A BRAND FOUNDAH...a few months go by and he stays sober...he goes to marriage counseling with her and he shows up drunk...they lived apart and they went on dates to try one more time...I'm so confused on this timeline!!!
U37: Marriage became toxic and unhealthy when they had a screaming explosive fight and she finally told him she wanted a divorce. More timeline confusion. ETA: THEN she says within a week Cody moved out. My god! This freakin woman cannot tell a story in a straight line.
U38: The divorce took 8 months and that was SOOOO HAHHHHD for her, and the Goobers helped her get through it, she talked to them a lot on the phone and she cried to them because she was so scared...yeah, scared of losing that $$$$. I bet that good ol' Zach helped a little too! 🤨
U39: She did her divorce remotely on Zoom? Then why all the big production with her with the JUST DIVORCED tshirt and sash? So performative. And she claims Cody looked at her in the Zoom and they smiled at each other. Somehow I doubt that.
U40: "People forget how YOUNG I am!" Yeah, when you show makeup and dress like a 50yo meemaw on the way to bingo!
U41 (1h53m): She finally talks about Zach. She's a year ahead of him. It just "didn't work out" when they were in HS because she was in college when he was a senior (🎶that's not what I hearrrrrrd!🎶) and that he went into the AF. He kept begging her to give him a chance. 🙄 "we broke up in HS" did they even date??? "When I got married he went radio silent" YA THINK???
U42: When Z saw she was getting a divorce ("because I'm very public about it" which would be during the "Sit Down For This video, right???) thats when he responded to her. They talked just "as friends". And he was there for her and supportive through the divorce. Hmph.
U43: She says that people say, "but you started dating him before the divorce?" "BUT THAT'S JUST HOW MY LIFE PLAYED OUT!" 🙄 She says Cody and she were fully separated and she didn't have any control over the situation because "Zach and I's" 😠 "connection grew strongly and she didn't want to pass on the connection, so she tells Z "a few months into the divorce" that they should go get dinner as friends. SORRY BUT THE TIMELINE IS STILL NOT WORKING FOR ME!
U44: "My community hasn't fully come around to Zach" 😬🥴 She "sprinkled in bits and pieces of Zach and was going to make the relationship private" but people were spotting her with him in public so she didn't have a choice.
THANK GOD THIS IS ALMOST OVERRRRR
U45 (10m left): Now they're talking about POS - Jay asks her how it feels to "solve a gap in the market "🙄
U46: She claims to have helped people with burns and rosacea and acne at Ulta...she claims to have had the idea for POS while working at Ulta...she claims investors approached her with an idea and she said "No, I have the idea" so she pitched her idea to them
U47: Discussing how Ulta and Sephora were fighting over POS (Jay: "Everyone wants you at this point!" 🤮) and SHE WAS THE ONE WHO CHOSE SEPHORA because they have the "founder brands"
U48: Jay: "You're very eloquent" 🤮
Mikayla: "Don't be friends with jealous people." "People constantly try to tear us (the Goobers) apart, but we encourage and lift each other up"
U49: Jay: "If you could create one rule everyone had to follow?" MikLiah: "Ban cyberbullying, I wish the internet was a more positive and safe place"