u/PhilosophyOk9066

My family never talks about politics or abortion. Btw I'm sure you recognise me from my online mutual (family friend ) who was talking about hurting people who are pro choice and how they should burn in hell. Well recently I had a family get together and I'm well aware they are all religious we all did confirmation, walking in a white dress and declaring faith ext. Anyway my cousin she brought up abortion and said how she feels raped women and girls have no choice but to have the baby. One cause it's human right that they must go through pregnancy whether they want to or not and she said how " we all have to do things we don't like" I tired so hard not to actually smack the life out of her but said nothing as she has bipolar does not take medication and if you argue with her it can get very bad for her and others around her as well. The second reason she said was so they have proof. Now I'm not surprised by this as I have seen forced birth Reddit use this take recently on the post about the raped 11 yr old girl. While this whole "proof" thing can work for a child btw there is DNA however the justice system is not the best however using that as an excuse to allow a child or anyone to carry something they did not want nor partake in is cruel. Anyway but I understand why they say that however when they apply that logic to grown women that does not work at all. When I politely told my cousin how while I see that working for little girls and make the process quicker it can be worse for them health wise and I mentioned cases as examples to show her how that view can be flawed then I said how for grown women that will not work and told her how it could be used against her and in fact dismiss her . She then replied with how she understands my pov on the grown women part she said how since they are adults they should handle it but when she heard how that sounded out loud she then added how "but we should support them all the way tho ofc 😊" she said all this with a smile on her face.

And that is the part that made me so sick while I do believe in god and Jesus, I was raised in the church as I mentioned and my dad was a member of the church council and was seen as an important figure even pastors would want his input on things and my mom a Sunday school teacher. However my mom stopped and knew how bad the church can get and how they spoke badly about me as a child and her as they disliked my mom at the time for being with my dad even though she did nothing wrong and kept to herself. So I first hand know how bad the church can be and knew how it's not a safe space it's filled with gossip and lies, ofc they do the occasional charity work. That being said recently however I have grown this sense of hatred and sadness over the religion and I feel that this abortion discussion made me feel it even more. Cause these views are actively hurting people. I'm not sure if you all knew this but I learnt growing up how in South Africa it was a professor and a pastor who came up with the blueprint for apartheid and how to do generational damage. If that does not show how the religion has been used to hurt people idk what will. (I mentioned this cause alot of Christians make excuses for this in debates I have seen to cope with the fact their religion actually has hurt no one and how true Christians don't do that) And they never address the actual issue.

Christians even the ones in my own family make up excuses and how God will be with people who are suffering. And all I can think about is how delusional and truly pathetic it is to think this way. Knowing how Christians and forced birthers openly admit how they can't mind their business and it's their right to interfere in other people's lives. (Check the recent posts on the pl sub a guy literally said this cause they are fighting for all human rights)

Sorry for this rant.

Anyway after my cousin said what she had to say to keep the peace I said she was right. And later that night sent me a bible verse and an Instagram reel of a Christian video of false Christians. This morning she sent me a playlist of Christian songs. And that is the catalyst of why I wanted to make this long post in the first place.

Anyone else dealing with this.

Pls don't take this post the wrong way. I say this cause I don't want to see people get hurt.

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Prolife people are getting insane and violent.

Context, so yesterday I saw a mutual of mine with a following make a story on Instagram about how finding out people who are pro choice makes her want to report them and hurt them. And then I see comments of other people agreeing to it.

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These people have doxxed and harassed families who did abortion to protect the mothers life/for lethal reasons or the fetus won't survive or the fetus is a stillbirth and these people had the nerve to try and hurt them.

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I also saw how these people actively go to report them or report people who share resources.

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So I end this with pls be careful out there. If you share a story do it faceless. Cause if someone in my life could talk like this. It could happen to anyone.

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Her stans in the comments eating this video up.

Every single tarot video I see has Manon as the queen and she becomes this powerhouse 🤣😭.

And the comments always seem to bad mouth Daniela saying how she wants to be Manon. While I'm not a Stan of any of the girls. I find these videos so funny.