u/PiccoloChemical5250

Past the future box is not in Lake Tahoe

Hey Everyone obviously until a box is found I have no proof of this statement.

But something I think is significant and that is telling was John’s words in regards to the word search.

He said some, but not all proper nouns would be relevant essentially.

And not only have I found proper nouns that leads to Ohio a.k.a., the word search says Ohio, but also the word search says a city specifically in Ohio as well as Erie.

Which Lake Erie touches Ohio.

But this maybe no surprise to anyone, there’s a Trail called the Ohio and Erie trail in the city which is in the word search.

I may have given away a solve but I doubt it. But I hope this offers a unique perspective to the right person.

*this is an edit but I think the 5 clues are supposed to take you from Ohio to the start location of the cryptogram

* I also think that psychologically John putting in the word search that there are five clues hinders the actual finding of the box because then as humans we try to see how everything fits together when the clues might not fit together at all.

And I feel the same way with the AT box because he said that there are three ways to solve it but what that does is it constantly creates self doubt AND confusion if you have two solves that lineup and maybe one that doesn’t.

And so I feel like because he knew that this would create that psychological tension. He hid easy clues, and easy solves within information overload.

One last thing I’m as I think about JCB’s history. I think there could be a piece that shaped him, that we can consider. Growing up, his dad was a pastor so I’m sure this verse shaped him. I’m paraphrasing but “God takes the simple to confound the wise”.

Im even sure it’s a verse that came to his mind as he created this solve. And I say all that to say this, I think he hides simplicity in information overload.

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u/PiccoloChemical5250 — 2 days ago

What constitutes going BOTG for you?

I understand that in this hunt many haven’t and many will never actually go BOTG.

But what will trigger you to go BOTG if you haven’t and BOTG again if you already have?

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u/PiccoloChemical5250 — 3 days ago

The Tree and the Magnifying Glass

Has anyone considered that the Tree with the magnifying glass might hold the answers? This map houses 3 commands Begin here isolate that, go fetch isolate that, look around isolate that.

The theory I’m posing is at this specific tree could there be a carving that makes X 1727 NW make sense?

Another question I ask is, why look around, the tree is the only place on the map with a double emphasis ( a magnifying glass and a command).

I guess one last food for thought I have is the X almost 100% certainty has nothing to do with the final triangle. What I mean is, JCB overlayed a treasure map with a written text layer. I’d say confidently all text, groups together.

So what we find is that it’s possible that if you find the look around tree, you then would follow (a trail or vector 1727 Feet NW of that tree).

Meaning that If LRP is the solve the answer might not be walking the entirety of the trail. But isolating the tree and following 1727 feet NW from there. The reason why I think this is plausible is because the LRP orientation is only visible when the map is upside down. That puts the X in the Southwest corner. This means following the map as people have presented in the past you would start SE and end SW, only to chase after an X that now has a position of SW but a vector of 1727 feet NW.

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u/PiccoloChemical5250 — 5 days ago

How do you weigh the text on the AT Box Map?

The icons outside the dashed line are doing a lot of interpretive heavy lifting in most solves I’ve seen/come up with but icons are ambiguous by nature. A tree drawing can mean five different things depending on which solve you’re running. Text isn’t like that. Words are precise most times😂. (This is a treasure hunt so words can have multiple meanings.)

My weighting system:

1.	Written text > icons, always  
2.	Icons paired directly with text > standalone icons  
3.	Standalone icons I just weigh as less important

One more reason to lean this way: JCB has talked about using AI in the design process. If AI helped generate or refine parts of the map, the written text is likely the most deliberate, highest-fidelity layer, text is easy to specify precisely in a prompt, icons/illustration less so. That pushes text even further ahead of icons in my weighting.

If this is right, it’s possible at least one of the three box solves is text-driven start to finish, with the icons acting mostly as noise on that particular map.

Not naming my specific location theory, just want feedback on the methodology. Or insight on your approach. Anyone else weight it this way? Any counter-examples where a standalone icon (no text pairing) turned out essential to a confirmed solve?

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u/PiccoloChemical5250 — 6 days ago

Could Lionshare Clues in the shorter chapters explain why clues point to multiple locations?

Hey everyone!

I’m new here but I’ve been watching the community for awhile. I had some food for thought that may provoke collective insight or get written off.

Two things mainly 1 I believe the topographical smudge on the AT map is actually a lionshare clue. Could be wrong but haven’t heard anyone bring this up. I think the smudge is legible enough to be matched to a location when the correct location is found.

2 If lionshare clues are also in the smaller chapters the could saturate/hinder us from going to the correct locations. What I mean by that is I’m anti LRP for my own reasons, LRP was found algorithmically which isn’t a problem I have. But what if LRP was a Lionshare clue, I know this is a big stretch. But when reviewing other locations I wondered instead of if Little Rock pond it’s not this location. But If and. And here’s my hypothesis, Little Rock pond when the map is orientated looks to me like Michigan. What if JCB did that intentionally and the only way we were supposed to find out was when the AT box was found and the clue inside said something like “The trail on the map looks like LRP but resembles what state.

Just some abstract thinking here but my point is if you’re solves are pointing two directions maybe ask if both how. You may have stumbled on a lionshare clue.🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/PiccoloChemical5250 — 6 days ago