r/treasureinside

Hey Everyone obviously until a box is found I have no proof of this statement.

But something I think is significant and that is telling was John’s words in regards to the word search.

He said some, but not all proper nouns would be relevant essentially.

And not only have I found proper nouns that leads to Ohio a.k.a., the word search says Ohio, but also the word search says a city specifically in Ohio as well as Erie.

Which Lake Erie touches Ohio.

But this maybe no surprise to anyone, there’s a Trail called the Ohio and Erie trail in the city which is in the word search.

I may have given away a solve but I doubt it. But I hope this offers a unique perspective to the right person.

*this is an edit but I think the 5 clues are supposed to take you from Ohio to the start location of the cryptogram

* I also think that psychologically John putting in the word search that there are five clues hinders the actual finding of the box because then as humans we try to see how everything fits together when the clues might not fit together at all.

And I feel the same way with the AT box because he said that there are three ways to solve it but what that does is it constantly creates self doubt AND confusion if you have two solves that lineup and maybe one that doesn’t.

And so I feel like because he knew that this would create that psychological tension. He hid easy clues, and easy solves within information overload.

One last thing I’m as I think about JCB’s history. I think there could be a piece that shaped him, that we can consider. Growing up, his dad was a pastor so I’m sure this verse shaped him. I’m paraphrasing but “God takes the simple to confound the wise”.

Im even sure it’s a verse that came to his mind as he created this solve. And I say all that to say this, I think he hides simplicity in information overload.

BOTG in SW NC on Labor Day. for the P&F box For anyone interesting in joining in I will share the clues (how the 19 words work, the physical map embedded in puzzle (think Os), the simple directions from puzzlers solution, the GPS coordinates leading you to the area, what hidden childhood game he was referencing, the NFT April Foods day joke, how the solution ties to Jon's Past & Future, The Bitcoin connection, what the grandparents were really counting, he coin match, what all the video games have in common, and a few others). All clues tie to one small area the size of two football fields. It really is simpler than we all think. Would love some company (and help) for a grid search in the area. DM me for more information and to participate. I will be bringing search tech and really need some help.

I understand that in this hunt many haven’t and many will never actually go BOTG.

But what will trigger you to go BOTG if you haven’t and BOTG again if you already have?

He said someone has been within 200ft of Pokemon treasure box well do you think he might know that because it's hidden in plain sight?? It might be where locals go alot and actual people walk by every day??

Has anyone considered that the Tree with the magnifying glass might hold the answers? This map houses 3 commands Begin here isolate that, go fetch isolate that, look around isolate that.

The theory I’m posing is at this specific tree could there be a carving that makes X 1727 NW make sense?

Another question I ask is, why look around, the tree is the only place on the map with a double emphasis ( a magnifying glass and a command).

I guess one last food for thought I have is the X almost 100% certainty has nothing to do with the final triangle. What I mean is, JCB overlayed a treasure map with a written text layer. I’d say confidently all text, groups together.

So what we find is that it’s possible that if you find the look around tree, you then would follow (a trail or vector 1727 Feet NW of that tree).

Meaning that If LRP is the solve the answer might not be walking the entirety of the trail. But isolating the tree and following 1727 feet NW from there. The reason why I think this is plausible is because the LRP orientation is only visible when the map is upside down. That puts the X in the Southwest corner. This means following the map as people have presented in the past you would start SE and end SW, only to chase after an X that now has a position of SW but a vector of 1727 feet NW.

The icons outside the dashed line are doing a lot of interpretive heavy lifting in most solves I’ve seen/come up with but icons are ambiguous by nature. A tree drawing can mean five different things depending on which solve you’re running. Text isn’t like that. Words are precise most times😂. (This is a treasure hunt so words can have multiple meanings.)

My weighting system:

1.	Written text > icons, always  
2.	Icons paired directly with text > standalone icons  
3.	Standalone icons I just weigh as less important

One more reason to lean this way: JCB has talked about using AI in the design process. If AI helped generate or refine parts of the map, the written text is likely the most deliberate, highest-fidelity layer, text is easy to specify precisely in a prompt, icons/illustration less so. That pushes text even further ahead of icons in my weighting.

If this is right, it’s possible at least one of the three box solves is text-driven start to finish, with the icons acting mostly as noise on that particular map.

Not naming my specific location theory, just want feedback on the methodology. Or insight on your approach. Anyone else weight it this way? Any counter-examples where a standalone icon (no text pairing) turned out essential to a confirmed solve?

The paragraph that talks about excel and not being a genius is a perfect square 289 letters long which is 17x17. If you make a 17x17 grid out of those letters, the middle column reads:

TITLE AT YIE IN HADOW

I believe Yie is a reference to Yie Ar Kung Fu and HADOW is shadow without the S. HADOW also appears in the word search.

Who’s got potential solves/ speculations on box locations in the PNW? I’ll be traveling through this area for the next couple months.

Hey everyone!

I’m new here but I’ve been watching the community for awhile. I had some food for thought that may provoke collective insight or get written off.

Two things mainly 1 I believe the topographical smudge on the AT map is actually a lionshare clue. Could be wrong but haven’t heard anyone bring this up. I think the smudge is legible enough to be matched to a location when the correct location is found.

2 If lionshare clues are also in the smaller chapters the could saturate/hinder us from going to the correct locations. What I mean by that is I’m anti LRP for my own reasons, LRP was found algorithmically which isn’t a problem I have. But what if LRP was a Lionshare clue, I know this is a big stretch. But when reviewing other locations I wondered instead of if Little Rock pond it’s not this location. But If and. And here’s my hypothesis, Little Rock pond when the map is orientated looks to me like Michigan. What if JCB did that intentionally and the only way we were supposed to find out was when the AT box was found and the clue inside said something like “The trail on the map looks like LRP but resembles what state.

Just some abstract thinking here but my point is if you’re solves are pointing two directions maybe ask if both how. You may have stumbled on a lionshare clue.🤷🏾‍♂️

Hi all, does Cynthia Meachum have a website? I know she has a YouTube channel. I’m sure I’ve seen her blog or website but now I can’t seem to find it?

If you take the underlined or overlined letters in the Hopi calendar and match the positions of the letters to letters in the corresponding Hopi ceremony name you get a, o, i, a, a, and a. Put those in the letter pool with all the letters from each month in the calendar and you get 23 (Michael Jordan’s jersey number) states. 4 of these states are the smaller boxes and one is the lions box state.

Alabama
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
Nevada
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Tennessee
Utah
Vermont

Apply the Forrest Fenn coin to the middle of the calendar and it tells you to remove August and November from the pool. The following states are left:

Alabama
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Minnesota
Montana
North Carolina
Ohio
South Carolina
Utah

Apply the Pokemon coin to the middle and it tells you to remove November and leaves these states:

Alabama
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
South Carolina
Tennessee
Utah

Apply the past and future coin to the middle of the calendar and it tells you to remove July and December leaving these states:

Alabama
California
Louisiana
Maine
Michigan
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Tennessee
Utah
Vermont

Apply the Appalachian coin to the center and it tells you to remove August leaving these states:

Alabama
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Florida
Idaho
Indiana
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Minnesota
Montana
Nevada
North Carolina
Ohio
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
Utah
Vermont

If you already know the 4 smaller box states you can remove them from the list leaving 19 (number in the wordsearch) candidates for the lions box. The tie all the boxes to 5 months and take the birthstone colors and tie them to the Olympic Rings. When you overlay that with the mainland US map the ring not assigns a state will reveal the Lions box state.

Hope this helps!

Planning a botg trip to Nevada city California, located in Nevada County California is the (2 state reference), gold rush history is here and check out the description of Nevada county's past, it is called the (Silicon Valley of the Sierras) since many Tech. Companies moved there with innovations like Video broadcast Equipment, picture phones & the Arcade Video game Pong was born here. They use to call the neighboring town of grass valley "Oasis". Nevada theatre is the oldest continuously operated theatre in Calfornia and the National exchange hotel still in operation since the gold rush ! I'm sure JCB played pong when it first came out like I did, now days it's beer pong ahaha Sure fits the past & future theme ! Now its time to nail down the local trails ect. Good luck out there guys 🤑

Hello! New here, but been “lurking" for a while.

Thought I’d share a tool I’ve found helpful while armchair-hunting.

I’ve been working on a number of solves (mainly PF and AT) and I don’t know about you, but I’ve used Google Maps a LOT. I’ve also been using Google Earth for lat/long theories and using tools Google Maps doesn’t have.

Here’s one place I had a problem: I think the leftover Os in the PF word search lay out over locations on a map. There are 19 of them. Every time I plot 19 points on Google Maps and want to see them on Google Earth, it’s a nightmare.

Manually copy/pasting was painful and slow. There are sites out there that either cost too much, or they make you install extensions, and even when you do that you’re limited to lists of only 5-10 locations.

Anyway, I found a site that’s super easy and free to use on lists up to 25. I hadn’t seen it mentioned here yet, and wanted to share: https://mapslink.quest/

I just pop in the Google Maps List’s link, and it pops out as a KML file. It also converts lists to GPX, which will be useful if/when I ever decide to be brave and go BOTG. (I’ve been looking forward to using the lingo and sharing here more, and writing “BOTG” just gave me the goose pimples)

I hope this helps someone out there. I know this community has helped me.

I’d also love to hear what tools everyone else has been using. Care to share?

Good luck, everyone! I hope we find one soon.