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Save this image. The entire Blueprint of BAPS cult I found from X. The past present and future of Cult. From a seemingly Hindu folk to dedicated generation of slaves…
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Save this image. The entire Blueprint of BAPS cult I found from X. The past present and future of Cult. From a seemingly Hindu folk to dedicated generation of slaves…

1)Initiation by Kathas of Avatars and stories of Pramukh Swami World records and Temples and Relief work. Talking of Hindutva etc.

  1. Peer pressure, free food and initial respect priming. Introduction to the community as an ideal flawless community.

  2. Competitive Satsangi stage and deep rooted fundamentalism. Seeds of Greed of a heavenly adobe Akshardham (rooting from fear of death and uncertainty of moksha). Satsang Pariksha and introduction to Blasphemous scriptures

  3. More Radicalisation even overriding the Swaminarayan and order of Pragat Brahmaswarup is the truth. Separation from KulDevi and clan Gods.

  4. Total control on life mind, money, and body (labour). Lots of Donations. Adding more people in satsang like a missionary.

  5. Control on all personal decisions of life and cutoff from the society. Satsang becomes an alternative to society. Control not only on individual but entire family

  6. Upcoming Hybrid Offsprings / products of cult but not a community. Indefinite supply of labourers for generations. Devoid of caste but with economic stratification.

u/Pitiful_Bad_8068 — 10 days ago
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An old conspiracy video. Discussing about the psychology behind Celeb worship.

The video highlights that many middle class people follow a celeb in this case a godman because many of them have fucked up in some area of their life.

They become so obsessed that they cannot accept the reality in front of them. It is like extremism.

Like celebs change their appearance and enhance beauty the swamis also try to become cosmetically appealing to stay relevant and close to perfection

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One another thing:

If you stop going there in satsang the peers pressure you to come again

They say that the quota of your Punya(good deeds) has emptied so you cannot climb the stairs of Baps Mandir. It takes many austerity of lives to achieve Satsang….😆

And if you still refuse they will say we don’t need you. Nothing will stop here without your presence. Many came and gone like you. Many “BhalBhala”(ભલ ભલા) came and gone. You are like Alaiya Khachar (there is always a relevant story to cage you in words).

🧐🧐🪁When you say you did so much for the cult they will say …we didn’t say that you have to do…😆WTF
They are actually the ones who give assignments and lot of labour by luring or convincing people with constructs like Rajipo and Peer Pressure.

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I promise this is truth 👇👇👇

Bright balaks are taken to BSS Sabha. A more binding Sabha where they prepare future Karyakars from children.
In BSS Sabha they show National Geographic Documentaries and do some good brain storming.

But it also has brainwashing at next level.
They literally teach that the best company to work in in BAPS.
Give examples of good earning people who left jobs and took job in BAPS NGO at a lower wage compared to their original job…

Because baps company gives Rajipo that never kehte company can give.

They also teach that never rebel against the policy of Madhyasth Karyalay or never talk ill of any misbehaving bhakt or a sadhu…
It is Guru Droh…

Assignments in ChaturMas were like
Watching Pramukh swami videos for 20 minutes regularly…😡😡
Horrible Niyams

u/Pitiful_Bad_8068 — 10 days ago
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Forcefully assigned Salesmanship by BAPS. How Calendars and Bal Prakash reached every household… read👇👇👇

I still remember that our Bal Karyakars Gave us Sales target of selling Calendars and Bal-Prakash Magazine of BAPS.

It was very humiliating experience and it felt like slavery.

By anyhow we had to sell those calendars and Bal Prakash.

It was an extra burden of being a Satsangi.

My Dad was also a Sanchalak and he was assigned target of minimum 50 Bal Prakash membership.

And if he didn’t a swami would torture him mentally over the phone and ruin a peaceful sleep. (I remember a swami called at night 12:30 and scolded him for not meeting up with the target)

For children of Bal Sabha the minimum target to sell Calendars was 11. Going door to door and convincing people that see this calendar has a Panchang and a beautiful photo of Pramukh swami and/or Swaminarayan.

My father paid the “LavaJam”(subscription fees) of the customers from his own earning to finish the targets. Many of them were relatives.

Many people never paid us the money that my father had paid.

To market Bal Prakash the karyakars had to convince parents by saying that this Magazine gives Sanskaar to your children by teaching Sutev-Kutev and will connect to Hindu culture.

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The MARKET SURVEY and App promotion in Name of Pramukh Swami, Peace and GHARSABHA
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Prior to Corona : Karyakars were told to Visit the homes of strangers and show them videos of Pramukh Swami and convince them to install an App of Pramukh Swami from Play store.

By doing this the App reached in top charts of App Store. And tell the people to do Ghar Sabha for peace of home.

But it had nothing to do with the Ghar Sabha or peace.

It was a Market Survey of BAPS. Where Karyakars had to rate the Response on Likert Scale. (The same old Stratification technique Bin-Satsangi/Gun-Bhavi/Satsangi) but with different name.

They were geographically zoning the groups and demographics.

Fortunately Corona came and I had to embarrass less by visiting stranger’s houses and doing a market survey and promote app for cult.

They encouraged everyone to volunteer for this children, men, women. By saying that you are doing a divine job.
By making one person Satsangi you get the fruit of saving one entire universe…😳😳

LOL really. Forget universe. Just save our country first from the corruption and rapes

u/Pitiful_Bad_8068 — 10 days ago
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Please read this fantastic Conspiracy found from an FB post. “MS Group” was a tactic of soft Launch of Mahant swami.

u/Pitiful_Bad_8068 — 11 days ago
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Lust in Satsang and much more… Read full. Satsang a free pass to flirt. The fake Letter system. The so called utopian NRI satsang and information bombardment. Satsang as false alternative to Caste.

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Satsangi Sacha saga. Deh na saga e sacha saga nahi: very problematic statement . Your true relatives are Satsangi and not the relatives of your body… Hemraj Sheth story is made to cut you from your original caste community and dissolve in the fake satsang community.
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Horny Satsangis ….

Horny Men satsangis

They always defame garba but…
I know. Many uncles and young men who gather to drool for the girls and married women in Mandirs

Some people join swamis on the way to padhramni. When female members hide in other rooms these bastards take Aarti thali and have a glance at the women as if they have got free pass to do it in guise of Satsang. Then they discuss among themselves in detail about the beauty and sexiness of females… never let these strangers enter your homes. They are bad for your family.

Many never sit in sabhas but outside in seva of Distributing Prasad or in Rasoda(Kitchen) department to establish a rapport with female satsangis.
Yuva Karyakars also enter homes of their friends to call for Sabha and have an eye on the cousins and sisters and even married women of the house.

I remember a yuvak who had camera and always used to roam around female seating arrangement and take photos of women. He had long hair and acted cocky. He could make a good IPL cameraman.

Horny Female satsangis

From account of a cousin I have also known that the Girl children and young adolescent girls going to Adhivesan had affairs with fellow Satsangi boys…Dominant Bully Girls also did subtle raging with weak Girls in the accommodation at Sarangpur during Adhivesans.

Horny Satsangi girls woke up very early in the morning and did Pooja. Their Sanchalaks were very happy., but the purpose of them waking up early was to sit in the front rows. And the boys with whom they had started a new affair sat on the last row. When the adhivesan ended these girls cried in pain of detachment…
Regarding Raging: some girls knew lot of Stuff related to sex and made groups for horny talk and excluded the girls who were less aware of such stuff. They also locked my cousin while bathing and turned off the lights. She complained to mahila sanchalak aunty but…
The mahila sanchalak was on the side of bully girls and complained the parents of my cousin that your daughter is too weak and too sensitive(my cousin got scolding from her mother instead of getting defended).

I also know an other incident of a senior Mahila karyakarta straying a balika in sarangpur just because she has personal Enmity with the mother of that girl.

Another account I came to know about a widowed woman who started an affair with a married Satsangi man in the Nagar of Shatabdi mahotsav… she was rich and the guy was behind her money.

Foreign country. Satsang not so friendly…

The BAPS sadhus tell stories of how the present day USA satsang is like nothing less than SATYUGa but after knowing countless stories of NRI fellow satsangis I came to know it is all a Facade.
One such incident I know was that my mom gave a chair to an elderly woman who had back problem in Sabha. She was very thankful and surprised and said she that {{ in USA they had donated 27 Lakhs and the prominent satsangis ignored them like they were nothing and didn’t even offer a chair when the woman had newly operated the spine…!!!
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Letter System of Swami

My maternal aunts father was dying of cancer. We hear that mahant swami if writes letter it is infallible.

If he says the person gets Akshardham he will definitely get it and die. If he says there are more years to stay he/she will survive irrespective of any kind of ailment.

But the letter she wrote to Mahant swami and got repley that her father will be fine didn’t turn out to be fruitful.

Unfortunately the person(her father) died and the reply email came after many days. She waited for many days but her father died and after he died she received the letter with ashirwad that he will get well soon….!!!

I firmly believe now that some letters only turn out to be true by luck and probability. And the incidents that favour the cult are made public and termed as success. (It is conformity bias).

Many people die in mandir doing seva getting Electrocuted or falling from height or lifting something heavy but such incidents never come to news. Because it challenges the so called divinity of their false godman.

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Information Bombardment

Baps keeps its devotees engaged and hardly let them do anything else around the week and they ban them from listening other speakers calling them PAROKSH”.

The control lies in their program design made by some trained psychologist.

It is a cage of words and arguments almost impossible to escape for those who are not brave enough.

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As opposed to the ideal lifestyle of a Grihasta and Tyagi. These cults have made it just opposite to vachanamrut’s guidance.
Grihast should be living in luxury with good vehicles and belongings and Tyagi should accept all kind of difficulties and swallow disrespect but the Tyagi(sadhus) live a lavish lifestyle eating purest of food, nicest of cars and mobiles.

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An incident of double standard::

When mahant swami visited my city I went near the lobby where he walked. A swami pushed me rudely and said to sit in Sabha and told me you are NAVRA”. I was standing there on advice of a Satsangi who worked in team of personal cook of swami. But I had to leave because of that swami.

I found a video of the same day few days letter in which same Swami who told me to go away was standing with a rich woman’s son introducing him to Mahant swami.(the guy had a history of drinking and his father was also a drinker who was very rich but died). Irony is that the swami who said me to walk away knows my father personally and takes lots of Baadam and Kishmish when he comes to padhramni at my home. But I don’t know why these swamis and many satsangis suddenly turn stranger and rude whenever Mahant comes to the city. Many of such satsangis never daily visit temples. But this is what happens. Then after few years the guy who was taken to swami for personal darshan died in accident drink and drive. Then my mom told me that he got moksha 🤡. And that is why mahant let him meet him and not you. His deeds were probably greater than you in past lives…!!! Wow I who has never touched whisky is bad compared to habitual drinker who born in a drinker’s family!!!

u/Pitiful_Bad_8068 — 11 days ago
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Do you Really think these type of Speakers can ever show you the path to Spiritual enlightenment and peace or even real material growth?

These guys are doing what a random motivational speaker does on YouTube but the difference is only between their clothes.
These guys while counting the income of celebrities show the confidence as if they are earning that money.😆
AppurvaMunni swami goes to extremes he even insults the satsangis by comparing them with the likes of Bill Gates.
These beggars take money from all classes of people middle class to rich. But they do mockery of middle class.🧐🧐
People wo go for some peace from daily life and the run for survival get even more aggravated after hearing such speakers.
These types of saints are the worst. They don’t know the dark backstories of the shining success of the billionaire empires. And keep speaking nonsense.

They preach their devotees to be ethical by all means and also make them aspire to be like the billionaire who have made fortune from misery of the people.

I am not here against the good elites who also exist.
But listening to these type of speakers just gives you FOMO and a damaged self esteem.
They can tell you what you are missing but can never give you real guidance to be rich. 👈👈

☝️☝️They want you to save more and earn more like mad so that you can donate more and more to their projects…

Watch a YouTube motivational speaker or a reel if you want motivation who are better than these guys and are professional in their work.

🫷🫷🫷Stop sitting in useless Sabhas for long periods on floor with a Ass Numbing Palothi(crossed legs) or else you will develop back problems, haemorrhoids, many problems related to blood circulation at the cost of getting nothing other than empty first copy motivation.

👈Have high Aspirations guys but never listen to empty time wasting talks of these people 👈

Just like many scammer motivational speakers sell courses, these Cults train motivational speakers like these to lure donors…
Same content but different execution model

u/Pitiful_Bad_8068 — 16 days ago
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The moon never remained the same for many after this PsyOp at a 3AM Night in September 2013. They perceive the moon differently than common people

u/Pitiful_Bad_8068 — 16 days ago
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Experience as cult follower. ; Karkasar and More…..

Since childhood I had been sent to Baps bap sabhas by parents. Initially it felt to be good. They told stories of Krishna and Avatars and children like Prahlad, Dhruv etc.

They convinced me to appear for satsang exams and I topped in such exams. At the cost of my precious vacations I had to prepare for these useless exams in order to make my parents and karyakars happy.

After learning in exam books I was slowly radicalised into a fanatic Swaminarayan who was against all other Hindu deities. My family equally became fanatic Swaminarayan. My parents became karyakars of baps. My whole life revolved around the baps and the boring lifestyle of non stop sabhas, and exams.

They preached “Kar-Kasar” the attitude to save every penny. This further ruined my life. I didn’t have cable in the TV, I didn’t go to watch movies, I was not allowed to go and have fun with school friends.

This kar-kasar shit made me save my every rupee received from guests who came on Diwali at my home. The karyakars gave Daan-Kumbh”(donation pots) for contributing to XYZ temple construction or Falani Jayanti Dhinka Jayanti. The money which was supposed to be my pocket money which I would have used to share with my friends at some cafe was now being used in the cult’s projects.

I was taught to wear a tilak chandlo. It really looks very ugly. But still in order to get Rajipo. In order to stay so called “pure” I had to wear it anyways. I faced bullying and abuse because of it. No satsangis ever come to save me from it despite complaints. I was always an odd duckling everywhere because of Tilak chandlo and because of demanding different food which has no garlic and onion. I faced more and more bullying everyday. Sometimes violent physical fights. I also got questioned every time when some so called swami did some crime or some other Satsangi with tilak chandlo was hypocritical in his actions.

The Karkasar”+donation” doctrine has ruined my family. My father told me to bring me an activa scooter if I scored 85+ in 10th. But he didn’t gave me any gift. Because a sant who came to Padhramni” told it and made him fear that I will face an accident.

When I went college I didn’t have a bike or an activa. I had to depend on friends and Rickshaw wale to go to college. There too I had limited pocket money so I sometimes went to college with bicycle or walking nearly fainting. I was made delusional and felt that all this is like austerity but no it was not. I was suffering.

My father would casually give blank cheques in temples of BAPS. All the places I have travelled from childhood are only baps temples. Tours meant for me just BAPS temple visits. My parents took me wherever Pramukh swami was situated. In some last years of pramukh swami I never celebrated a festival. All my festivals became monotonous. Going to Ahmedabad and Sarangpur waving in front of pramukh swami in Glass box.

Senior karyakartas convinced my father that xyz Swami who is Kothari of the temple really needs lot of money. He can’t afford such mega project. And my father got convinced…because in baps there are always struggle stories of pramukh swami on how he had no balance and made temple etc. “Zero Balance” like financially risky move of Haribhakts(in which haribhakts donated all their savings in making some UK or US temple). My father donated lot of money to that Kothari frequently. And what he gave was a free unlimited food for that day 🥲. And my parents thought how good is this Kothari. He fed us well today. My dad would give 30000Rupees to 70000 rupees on random sundays to that Kothari followed by getting food as stated.

My father would have take us to best of the 5star hotels with such amount of money that had been donated. But improving lifestyle felt waste of money to my brainwashed parents.

After that Mahant swami became the Pramukh of baps. In few years he also organized Suvarna Tula like pramukh swami. My father donated 6 Lac rupees there. Imagine I we have a car and he donated such huge amount to the cult. All just to receive a VIP eating pass. In that too there were Tiers of Pass. Ghanshyam pass Nilkanth pass and Sahajanand pass.

Ghanshyam pass was for small donors below 2 lakh; Nilkanth pass was for those below 10 lakhs and above 2 lakhs. Sahajanand was for people who donated above 10 lakhs. And …. The pass was torn on the day itself. On the day of donation you get to eat with that pass and swayam sevaks ensured you didn’t come to eat another day with it. My nilkanth pass was torn. On the other days also my brainwashed family worked as swayam sevaks in the event and we had to eat in the worst place below Ghanshyam. In the tier system of baps the best food is served first in VVIP then VIP then lesser VIP and then for the rest.

People eat without roti in general class because what ever is leftover in supply from VVIP to VIP to Lesser VIP comes to General. In sahajanand fine dining tables and swayamsevaks working as waiters are present. With less rush. In the lowest tier the dishes and spoons are not washed properly and very dirty.
Swayamsevaks serving in sahajanand are well behaved and serve with smile and in lower tiers the swayamsevaks make rude faces when they serve food for another time.

Without car I and my family(of 4) sat on a single bike alongwith my elder brother. Which was very humiliating for me. I felt shame roaming in the whole city. (In teenage puberty as guys know boners are frequent and without any reason; my dih was crushed on 4 savari bike ride on the way to satsang sabhas and I hid my face in whole town feeling shame)(Dad earns a lot of money both parents are highly educated but they didn’t care about me as much as they care about satsang)

After many years we got a basic hatchback car in that too my father got a Pramukh swami and Aksharderi sticker. the neighbours thought that the car was received for serving baps instead of hard earned money.

Karkasar and BAPS made me looser in the life. My self esteem cannot be fully repaired. My lost money and precious time can never be brought back. The loss to my social life cannot be repaired. My family image of orthodox and boring Satsangi cannot be changed.(Karksar means being miserly in spending money and being kanjoos- money saved is money earned mindset)(they want you to save maximum and then donate it in huge amounts so they teach such philosophy)

We always had to eat in premvatis and not any other hotel in the world. My relatives think the only place they travel is mandir and Premvati.

The Cult gave my Father a PASSPOrT to Akshardham (parlok) which I believe is an extreme. I thought that my father is very lucky when I was into Baps

My parents never worship kuldevi. They have stopped it 20 years back. Sadhus made us remove kuldevi photos from the Pooja ghar.

My parents didn’t allow me to get into any relationship and stayed hypervigilant. Hoping that Pramukh swami and mahant swami would find bride for our sanskari child. As many stories say.

My parents were not at home in Shatabdi mahotsav of Pramukh swami. It was Diwali and my home was soulless. The site of Shatabdi mahotsav had hoardings “Diwali to Pramukh Swami Nagar maa j” my parents took photos there.

Mahant swami scrapped the laws of Shiksapatri regarding Menstruation of women. Because he wanted uninterrupted service from his female slaves in the Samaiyo.

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One thing worth thinking about :::: Where does all the money go which gets donated in seva. When samaiyo is for free (many sponsors). Food to water to Pavement, lighting, sound systems, LEDs everything is given for free; Labour is for free; accomodation is for free; land is for free. Still so much donation…!
Even if they make new temples after grand events they still become beggars. Where does all the money go in this Black hole of Cult?

These people send us to beg on Uttrayan and call it Jholi Parva. Swaminarayan hare sachidanand prabhooooo…I even went to beg for these people in my favourite festival. 🪁🪁

In a typical padhramni at my home they take atleast 5000 💰 rupees. In name of Swami na dhotiya 11000 and more and in Temple during summer they take money in name of Chandan na Vagha.

I don’t know garba because of the Baps who demonised Garba. The leading Satsangi Yuvaks held sabhas on Navratri nights till 12 PM. And also had games and competitions to prevent us from going to Garba. The Same leading yuvaks after 12 changed clothes and went to Garba ground with their girlfriends. Morally corrupt and hypocritical Satsangi Yuva. To my surprise the politician and businessmen organisers invited the Santo to Garba grounds to perform Arti and bless the grounds and swamis go there because they are big donors.
These hypocrites say Garba is Vyabhichar but they allow all kinds of intercaste marriages within the cult. I know incidents of people dating in Shatabdi Mahotsav of Pramukh swami. Even married people were having affairs in the Nagar.🥵

Just like Garba another hypocrisy is of not eating Shradh food even of relatives but can eat food of a random dead satsangis fathers mrityubhoj (disguised as Prasad)

In Adhivesan of Satsang Diksha. Tyag Valabh swami told not to marry anyone who is not Satsangi. Marry only those who do not eat onion and garlic. No matter what the caste…
This is a shadier Agenda of this cult.. They want to make a new caste (Satsangi Samaj) where they get generations of slaves who are detached from their original social group(caste and their parampara of Kuldevis). Pramukh swami had made people do such intercaste marriages as opposed to what is prescribed in shikshapatri by their god(BAPS removed that shlokas from their shikshapatri; Mul Gadi still has all of it and vachnamrut also supports it). The cult is destroying existent varna and caste system to make its own hybrid generation of slaves who will bring uninterrupted cashflow and the cult will survive until these generations thrive.(Their offspring’s will not be from caste of father(z) nor from the caste of mother(y) but the products of the cult)

But I cannot sue the cult of the immense harm caused to my life. 🥲
People who have known the exploitation of the cult can never fully return as spiritual Hindus. They become close to Atheists. The cult is definitely an economic weapon and also a spiritual weapon on the humanity and a threat to Hinduism

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u/Pitiful_Bad_8068 — 17 days ago