Maybe I’m delusional but the liddy from nttv would win most of her fades except naj and maybe kayy. It’s way too simplistic to say that she could never fight. It kinda true but liddy always knew how to win a fight. She’s very limited fighter. She can only win if she puts u in a liddylock. But it was brought to beat kash and tie with ivori.
Because there’s too many women on the returning cast member side. We end up getting the same storylines and fights taking up the season. If Lemmy would get rid of 80% of them this cast would be so much better(it won’t happen cuz him and Nat are sleeping with them allegedly🌚). The only returning cast members that can stay is Lex, ivori, Tavii, Ciroc, pressure, tee tee, kaniyah.
Scotty-useless lol. Don’t care to see a rehashing her beef with Natalie and Lex.
Biggie-She’s not above the show like everyone thinks. I’m tired of the usual “woe is me” storyline. I don’t care about her fake ass friendship with Tesehki. She just do music performances.
Tesehki- Boring. Idc how many fades she wins, It’s time to finally let her go. We have heavy hitters that will give us entertainment.
Suki and sapphire-I like them but they don’t fit in with the cast. I would like them as special guests.
Tinka-does nothing but fight weak ppl.
Dolly&Summer(unpopular)-They did their part in carrying 2-3 seasons but I think they hit their ceiling. Big 3 is over, let ts go 😂. We’re just gonna get the same ole storyline. Both made up to keep their spots so I know it’s not 100% genuine lol. Guest appearance? Maybe.
Killa and fania- both should’ve never came back after Africa. Became big 3’s punching bags afterwards.
Pretty p-Boring lol. Ivori’s groupie. Relevant when she fights summer and Dolly.
Kali-was too scared to get her lick back on Jela
I don’t care to see Jaidyn and Neveyah if chrisean not there. But Blueface is getting 2 checks 😂😂.
I like Lucci and Christina but bgc girls always ended going out sad. It’s kinda make me sad that Christina came back after all the things Zeus put her through. Lemmy def casted her to spite Mariah.
This is unpopular but I don’t care to see Lori like that. She’s flaky, flip floppy, pick and chooser.
Kash is good pick but she’s very unpredictable, flaky, flip floppy, and might not last the whole season.
Lemmy really thinks we’re stupid. He’s clearly bringing these people back just so we can watch the same beefs play out all over again. This is literally the definition of insanity lol.
The red X’s are the ones I don’t wanna see. The blue question marks are the ones I’m 50/50 on or have some concerns about.
13 RETURNEES + DJ
Biggie
She’s pretty and talented, but I honestly don’t think this show is for her anymore. She doesn’t want to fight anymore, which is completely fine, but she’s constantly being targeted.
She’s eventually gonna make up with Tesehki and Mariah, and we’re gonna have to sit through another fake-ass friendship.
Tesehki
I don’t care how many fights she wins, she’s still boring to me. She barely does anything all season and then suddenly becomes relevant at the reunion.
She’s probably gonna avoid the actual top fighters and find somebody like Tavi or Fania to fight instead.
Mariah
This is self explanatory
Dolly (unpopular)
She had a good run. She went from being the underdog, to becoming a villain, and eventually getting her “redemption” arc. Now she’s making moves with her music career.
She’s done enough for Baddies. I think it’s time to move on. I could see her doing occasional pop-up appearances, though.
Summer (unpopular)
Her peak was Midwest. She was definitely part of what made the newer seasons entertaining, but after that, it became her getting brutally beaten up season after season.
Once Lex and Dolly weren’t around, she completely faded into the background. I just don’t care to watch her start beefs and then have her “friends” fight for her all over again.
I could see her doing occasional pop-up appearances, though.
Pretty 3
Flopped after Africa and eventually became the Big 3’s punching bags.
I’ll make a longer post about them later.
DJ Sky
Filler.
OG BADDIES
Honestly, everyone can go except Meatball.
Scotty
She’s been boring. I don’t wanna see her and Lex’s beef get reactivated.
I’m also tired of the same convo with Natalie that goes absolutely nowhere every season. But I know she’ll always have a spot no matter what.
Pretty P (unpopular)
She’s meh. She only really stands out when she’s fighting Dolly or Summer.
Jela
Boring.
She’s probably just gonna get cool with Natalie again after spending half the season ranting about her.
I will say, there’s a chance she might actually try to do the most this time.
Ahna
It’s gonna be the same shit with her: antagonizing everybody while ducking fades.
At this point, she needs to stop postponing her fight with Lex.
Bianca
She’s cool, but I don’t think she really needs to be on Baddies. I just don’t see us getting much out of her.
The fans didn’t really start fw with her until she beat up Mariah, and honestly, I don’t care to see them fight again.
Gretchen
WTF is she even here for?
All she did was get beat up over saying the N-word. I’m convinced she sleeping with somebody at Zeus because ain’t no way she should be coming back almost three seasons in a row.
BGW, DR & NTTV GIRLS
These girls could either make the season amazing or completely ruin it.
If they come in with the same energy they had on BGW, this season could actually be a blast. But if House B starts playing it safe, it’s gonna flop.
If I had to get rid of someone it’d be Becky, Maloni, Leandra, Mimi but ion mind them getting casted.
We already know the NTTV girls can make Baddies more entertaining, BUT something about this cast just isn’t giving.
For one, there are simply way too many of them. Alot of them are overhyped.
Fiji,Lori, Niy(unpopular)
All three of them can stay home. They pick and choose way too much for me. They’re extremely flip-floppy and thirsty.
And with Fiji specifically, I don’t got the time for everyone to walk on eggshells with her. I’m 50/50 on Niy.
Kash
She makes good TV. She’s very funny and an exciting fighter.
But she’s also extremely flaky, non-compliant, and unpredictable. I could see her time on Zeus getting cut short because of that. She has her picks and chooses too.
Mel
She’s a good pick. She’s pretty, funny as hell, and can fight. She has the right mix of personality and entertainment value.
But I do not want to see her and Ivori’s beef dragged out on Zeus. Leave that on NTTV.
Alexis
I’m 50/50 on her. She’s very pretty and can definitely fight, but she tends to play it safe when it comes to the stronger fighters. My concern is that i can see her fading into the background.
That said, I’m interested to see how she interacts with Big Lex.
I’m tired of Mariah getting protected. Amber is getting her lick back from mariah sneaking her and there goes Lex inserting herself 🙄.
They just don’t believe anything Lex says or does anymore.
To be clear, Lex was NOT wrong at all for stopping TT from getting jumped imo. But everything that Lex—and her fans—claimed she stood for during Midwest and Africa has finally caught up with her.
Lex lost a lot of credibility when she played Captain Save-a-Ho for Gretch just to push a storyline. Like, how do you think Black people are supposed to view you when you made a white person the poster child for being “bullied” because she refuses to stop saying the N-word? Everything after that took a domino effect.
Lex called Tavii out for “picking and choosing”, only to eventually fall into that same pattern. She let DTB, Ivori, and Ciroc walk away untouched for jumping TT, but Neek and Rollie(last episode) are the only ones that got hit by her. That inconsistency is going to stand out to people.
Quite honestly, Lex’s fans and production lowkey set her up for failure. They built her up as someone who always stands on principles and doesn’t compromise, when in reality, it’s the opposite. And that’s OK—because none of the other baddies stand on any principles either.
But once you sell the audience on being “stands on principle,” people are going to hold you to that standard.
Once fans start clocking that too many of Lex’s contradictions , they’re started nitpicking EVERYTHING she does. And at that point, even when you’re actually right, people are going to constantly question your motives because you’ve already damaged their trust.
I know I'm years late saying this, but I've been wanting to get this off my chest. Every time people debate Gretchen vs. Jela and Suki over the N-word situation, the conversation always becomes "Jela and Suki were right" or "Jela and Suki were bullies." Meanwhile, almost nobody talks about the people who actually facilitated the entire mess: Lemmy and Natalie.
They knew exactly what they were doing. Instead of either sending Gretchen home or separating her from certain ppl like any normal network would they stretched it out for “entertainment”. Gretchen stayed in an environment to get constantly attacked(even though it was for a valid reason) to satisfy their own sadistic desires while using Jela as a pawn. My theory is that Jela is coerced to doing things that she normally wouldn’t so she can maintain the “lifestyle”. Gretchen was cast is to give her a storyline to relive her bgc nostalgia. Normally she would’ve fought Gretchen once and never speak to her again after that. But she felt like she had to do the most to keep her job that it backfired. She let Natalie putting a battery in her and Scotty’s back to go after Gretchen and Kali at the beach. When fans started clocking that they were hypocritical it created a narrative that Gretchen was getting bullied for saying nigga. In their minds gretchen is standing on business cuz the evil black women were using the “nigga” as a reason to bully her since they let Mariah and ahna say it (you know how ridiculous the logic is)
There’s reason why amber from joselines cabaret didn’t get as much flack for fighting diamond over saying nigga. It wasn’t a made into a storyline the whole season. Amber beat diamond up and moved on. If it had been handled properly on Baddies the amount of blk ppl openly defending gretchen would not be nowhere near as loud. I forever despise Lemmy and Natalie for how careless for how they made this into a storyline this given the type of audience zeus attracts especially when we’re in a current rise of conservatism in the mid 2020s. But I’m happy that enough black people have enough sense to see through the BS. I’ll say that.
Maybe I’m overreacting but I’m seeing some warning signs that BGW might go downhill on this season and after. It irks me how Lemmy is slowly on a quest to ruin his potentially best show on Zeus. He’s reversing everything we liked about BGW and turning it into Baddies. Zeus set the age limit on BGW to 21-30. Liddy is 35. There are many other nttv girls in their 20s who could’ve been a replacement for Kash. It could be so simple to cast Liddy on Baddies USA chapter 3 since has no age limit. Lemmy said that we’re getting all new girls per season just to see Erica and Janelys as guest appearances. Next thing is that we’re gonna end up seeing the same ppl on BGW getting casted for multiple seasons-the same thing that ruined baddies.
Mariah and Tesehki are kinda the same people. I see why they got close together. Both are backdoorsy. Will sacrifice their friends and family to be at the top. Be friends with the people that beat their friend and family up. What Tesehki treated chrisean and biggie is parallel to how Mariah did bianca.
This is to highlight that Ciroc has been honest this whole time. Yes Tesehki hits hella hard but she’s never used rings to fight anybody.
I don’t hate Tesehki but she’s been acting weird when it came to Ciroc. Doing things that I’ve never seen her do. Ppl will disagree but she ducked Ciroc who was supposed to be her original fade in part 1 finale. If Zeus don’t show favoritism and Ciroc is telling the truth you’ll see why Tesehki is so quick to link up with the heavy hitter. But If I’m wrong I’ll eat my words.
She plays it safe with other heavy hitters. She did this with Ivori, Lex, and J.O. But I ignored it until when it came to Ciroc. The fans want to say that “they start with her first” but that debatable( that’s a whole mother post). When they do start with her she’ll fight them if it’s someone she can beat easily. Most of her fights were was over Ahna, someone using the allegations as a punchline, or they were talking massive sh*t online. Ciroc gave Tesehki a reason to fight her by doing all did all those things but she was mute when it came time to fight. Before that she was ready to fight for Biggie when she thought Lo(who can’t fight) was the person who snuck Biggie.
Ciroc has been MOSTLY truthful about how her fights have played out.(Some white lies and exaggerations here and there). She said that she got jumped and admitted to losing to Lex on an 1 on 1 the first time. On part 2 She said the only fight that was debatable was her fight with Lex. She described how her fight with Lex. She admitted that Lex almost dropped her. She pushed Lex into the wall. She hasn’t changed her story about Tesehki yet as the episodes went on.
Tesehki ran one round with Ciroc
This was after ciroc got snucked and jumped. If find that sus because she ran multiple rounds with marsh, et, Dolly, and summer.
Tesehki’s level of competition is questionable.
As good of a fighter as Tesehki is most her competition is bad except Dolly and ET but they’re undersized. Ciroc is the first opponent that’s bigger in size and can fight.
This is the first season she’s sneaking and jumping someone/Brings her friends along.
I noticed that she only did that to bigger women like Ciroc and Treve.
Zeus did not show her full fights on the preview and trailer like they did they’re other ones.
It’s giving that Zeus is playing favorites and they’re gonna try to edit it in her favor so she don’t expose them.
Tesehki did not show up to the last house meeting. She’s never missed any house meeting.
Tesehki pulled up to fight Ciroc at the confessional.
She NEVER pulled up to fight anyone. She had multiple chances to fight Ciroc throughout the season but only fought her 1-2.
My final thoughts
Ciroc tends to over exaggerate her fights. She said she whooped Lex but it didn’t happen(it was a tie). Which is why I don’t believe that she whooped Tesehki. What I think happened is that Ciroc got with her program enough for Tesehki to not run anymore rounds. She pulled a naj from nttv.
Maybe but she’s not as annoying personally. Yes she’s a mean girl and a bully but her reads are a lot more clever. Summer funny and entertaining too but half the time she don’t be making sense. Pressure is way more of a trendsetter cuz she has ppl from both networks(NTTV and Zeus) saying her phrases.
What are y’all thoughts?
I’m ready for the downvotes 😂😂.
My thoughts are all over the place but I just wanna get it out.
Zeus doesn’t seem to love Rollie anymore. I first caught on to that when they didn’t even show her angle when she was fighting daisy. When I first the tea page post that Lex hit Rollie it seemed so random cuz Rollie would NEVER fight Lex. But I’m beginning to see a pattern. Half of the ppl that Lex has fought thus far Zeus/Lemmy/Natalie has been having problem with. Jela, Camilla, Summer, Scotty, Tommie and now Rollie. Someone in production set her up to get beaten up by Lex.
But then I remember Rollie exposed Zeus through her ex bf. He said that “Rollie was going to sue Lemmy and Natalie..Lemmy tried to SA her.”
Rollie used to dick ride the big 3 on Midwest. She manipulated them to take out the ogs. Then on Africa, I can tell she slowly started to not like them. Later on she did an interview with Jason Lee that they (big 3 esp Lex) was jealous of Scotty’s relationship with Lemmy.