u/Practical-Ad-6615

“Once saved always saved” is basically “I’m a good person” but repackaged

After seeing many arguments for and against the teaching of Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS), I’ve come to the conclusion that it can quickly devolve into another form of works-based salvation, the very thing its proponents often criticize.

Take Caleb Flynn, for example. He committed adultery, which resulted in the murder of his wife. Many people argue that he was never truly saved, let alone a Christian, in the first place. But how much of that judgment stems from the fact that they themselves don’t currently struggle with adultery or thoughts of murder? What if they did? Would they apply the same standard to themselves? Would they conclude that their sins proved they themselves were never saved in the first place?

Some people go so far as to argue that, apart from apostasy, nothing can cause us to lose our salvation. But how is this fundamentally different from someone saying, “I’m a good person. I don’t commit X, Y or Z sins, so I’ll go to heaven”? I know the difference is in the OSAS case they say they have faith and trust in Christ and God sustains them from falling away or committing those egregious sins, but why would you let certain sins pass but not other sins, saying those would prove you were never Christian to begin with?

P.S. I know many Protestants don’t believe in OSAS, which is why I want to hear what you guys think.

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u/Practical-Ad-6615 — 4 days ago

Why do some Reformed Christians make believing in the five solas a requirement for being a Christian?

Pretty much the title.

Also I’ve seen some who say all non-Calvinists go to hell. I know this might be a very fringe position within the Reformed tradition.

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u/Practical-Ad-6615 — 2 months ago

On Reformed Baptists

Out of all Protestants I’ve interacted with or listened to, it’s almost always Reformed Baptists who are the most vitriolic and/or critical towards Catholicism.

I’m just trying to understand if this is a coincidence or if we have had bad history with the Reformed Baptist tradition in particular. I’m also curious if it’s just my experience.

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u/Practical-Ad-6615 — 3 months ago

Does this represent the Reformed view of soteriology?

I ran into someone who made this post:

Anyone who rejects salvation is by grace alone through faith alone, is not saved.
This means to be saved that understanding that no work of man saves a single soul. Not belief not saying a prayer, not allowing inviting or accepting Jesus into your heart, not by obedience to maintain salvation, not by submitting to Jesus as savior and Lord, not baptism, not confessing with your mouth, not repentance, not ANY thing a man can or must do plays a role at all in justification.
These listed are effects of already being saved by the unmerited grace of God, not preconditions, prerequisites, or root causes of salvation.
PS 100% of false religions and false gospels affirm that salvation is not by grace alone though faith alone but does require the input of man in some way to be saved or stay being. saved. Think about that

The poster is Calvinistic Baptist, but is this a fringe view among the Reformed community where basically almost all Christians, including Arminians, Lutherans, and Anglicans are condemned?

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u/Practical-Ad-6615 — 4 months ago