r/redeemedzoomer

“Once saved always saved” is basically “I’m a good person” but repackaged

After seeing many arguments for and against the teaching of Once Saved, Always Saved (OSAS), I’ve come to the conclusion that it can quickly devolve into another form of works-based salvation, the very thing its proponents often criticize.

Take Caleb Flynn, for example. He committed adultery, which resulted in the murder of his wife. Many people argue that he was never truly saved, let alone a Christian, in the first place. But how much of that judgment stems from the fact that they themselves don’t currently struggle with adultery or thoughts of murder? What if they did? Would they apply the same standard to themselves? Would they conclude that their sins proved they themselves were never saved in the first place?

Some people go so far as to argue that, apart from apostasy, nothing can cause us to lose our salvation. But how is this fundamentally different from someone saying, “I’m a good person. I don’t commit X, Y or Z sins, so I’ll go to heaven”? I know the difference is in the OSAS case they say they have faith and trust in Christ and God sustains them from falling away or committing those egregious sins, but why would you let certain sins pass but not other sins, saying those would prove you were never Christian to begin with?

P.S. I know many Protestants don’t believe in OSAS, which is why I want to hear what you guys think.

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u/Practical-Ad-6615 — 4 days ago

My Icon Corner

My priest gifted me a massive Deacon’s Door with my patron saint on it

I know this is a Protestant sub, but I wanted to share this with everyone

u/everything_is_grace — 12 days ago

Christian filmmakers need to invest more in producing horror movies

Most of the Christian movies that I watched - I found them very cringe. The stories and acting were sub par. The only exception was the horror genre. I've watched every single movie of the Conjuring universe and enjoyed them. They have Christian themes but most of the cast were secular. I enjoyed movies like the exorcist, exorcism of emily rose which come with heavy Christian themes. I think this is the only section of the media where Christian filmmakers can actually produce something good and based in their faith.

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u/Pretend_Door8037 — 12 days ago

I dont know what to do

I dont know what kind of mental illness i have that for example i worry about the unforgivable sin even tho people comfort me all have to agree that i havent done it not only orthodox catholics etc but for example i have to check every theologian i know, martin luther, john calvin, owen everything and if only ones interpeetation makes me think that i have done it then all people who say im fine are wrong and if the person agrees that i havent done it, it offers me no comfort.

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u/Constant_Adagio3316 — 12 days ago