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Leaving Neverland is available to rent or buy on Apple TV in the United States as well.

Everyone make copies if you can. We cannot let the Jackson estate bury this documentary. If they didn’t think it was a threat then they wouldn’t bother trying to take it down.

They’re afraid.

They know that people will see the emotion from Wade and James and know in their hearts that those men are telling the truth.

Edit: it’s definitely available on the mobile app.

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u/Prof_Tickles — 2 days ago

Could a federal case be brought against some of Michael’s handlers/staff because they supplied him with children. Technically a criminal enterprise.

That’s how they got R. Kelly, by creating a RICO case which stipulated that he created a criminal enterprise to traffic children.

Michael’s employees are definitely guilty of this. You cannot convince me otherwise. They scouted kids then informed him.

Michael is also guilty of the Mann Act because he transported minors across state lines for immoral purposes.

Yes Michael is dead but couldn’t a federal case be brought against say…Norma Staikos or MJJ Productions? They knew and helped.

If it’s possible to create a RICO case then they can get around the statute of limitations.

This next part is tangential but I’ve been watching the trial of Adolph Eichmann and near the end, the lead prosecutor, Gideon Hausner gets into a screaming match with Eichmann because Eichmann refused to answer whether or not he regarded another fellow Nazi a criminal. He also refused to comment on whether or not he believed his colleague’s ACTIONS were criminal; saying “I will not reveal my innermost thoughts on the subject.”

I like to imagine some of the people in Jackson’s camp being asked under oath if they regarded Michael or his actions as criminal, just to watch them squirm and obfuscate.

Anyway…back to my original point. Is there any way to bring a federal case against Michael’s people?

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u/Prof_Tickles — 14 days ago

Latest defender delusion. I’m starting to hate some of these people.

Does it ever occur to them that some of this shit might be hard for victims to talk about? That they need time to mentally prepare; especially given the backlash they’ve received since coming forward?

u/Prof_Tickles — 20 days ago

Never heard of RazorFist before yesterday but already I hate him.

A defender also let everyone know that they had to film this take twelve times. Thus “proving” James and Wade were working off of a script.

u/Prof_Tickles — 25 days ago
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Michael Jackson: The Verdict Review

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It was detailed, it was uncomfortable, it was thought provoking, it was unfinished.

Going into this documentary, I rated it strictly as a documentary. Not based on whether I like Michael Jackson or whether I think he's innocent or guilty. This is history, and I wanted to judge it on how well it told the story.

What stood out to me most was how much information was packed into it. Even as someone who's followed Michael's story for years, there were details and perspectives that a lot of people probably didn't know. The documentary does a good job presenting different viewpoints and letting viewers come to their own conclusions.

My biggest criticism is that I wish we heard more from Michael's family and close friends. I think that would've helped paint a better picture of what he was going through during the trial.

Overall, it's a detailed look at one of the most talked-about trials in entertainment history. It won't settle the debate, but it will give you a lot to think about.

Rating: 8/10

Whether you think Michael was innocent or guilty, what was the biggest thing you took away from this documentary?

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u/Prof_Tickles — 26 days ago

J. Randy Taraborrelli 1991: The Lost Michael Jackson Interview | Dini Petty. What’s the consensus on Randy: fool, useful idiot, puff writer, or something else?

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u/Prof_Tickles — 1 month ago

Why I think Michael was the way that he was.

In Michael’s case what happened was a confluence of events from childhood to his formative years. Joe’s sexual abuse of Rebbie, Latoya, and possibly even Janet was not only normalized but he also grew up in an ineffective social environment which did nothing to challenge that normalization - Gary, Indiana - one of the poorest most crime ridden and downtrodden cities in the United States and then Hollywood - where everything is superficial and exploitative.

Michael was more than likely abused sexually.

He watched his brothers use girls for sex and discard them; plus being surrounded by yes men didn’t help. He watched and learned how to tell people what they want to hear and he saw the effectiveness of that superficiality.

During adolescence and puberty I think he realized that he was attracted to boys but with no stable moral center to ground him, he came out of puberty having internalized the sexual deviance inflicted upon him. Unlike the majority of people, Michael’s sexual preferences didn’t age with him.

If he had any conflict about it, any reservations about how what happened to him might’ve been wrong it would’ve been his early teenage years. I’d be curious to know when the “battle for his soul” moment took place? Most likely the early 70’s.

All of this is learned behavior and patterned responses.

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u/Prof_Tickles — 2 months ago