u/ProfessionNo7941

What data says about Jewish safety in Canada

What data says about Jewish safety in Canada

i’m writing this because i really want my jewish friends and neighbours to have better information and feel safer. or at least as safe as they should feel.

i am not in anyway denying the overwhelming evidence that antisemitism is on the rise in canada and around the world

but i want to undo some misleading information since canadaland has spread a lot of fear by using bad statistics, the number Jesse made about jews being 9x more at risk of hate crimes in canada than the usa is is wrong and jesse also republished a stat that antisemitic incidents had increased by 670% between october 2023 and october 2024 in quebec, which was published by pos media like nypost and epoch times, but was debunked long ago.

this just feels especially relevant as jesse continues to publish information out of context.

i spent part of my afternoon running numbers. frankly, my job is in ai and sucks, so this felt like a more useful use of my time ¯_(ツ)_/¯

this is long. but i hope you think it is worth the read.

THE PROBLEM WITH JESSE'S 9X'S MORE AT RISK

the “9x more at risk than the usa” statistic that jesse spread has travelled fast and widely, i see it quoted int the usa now and few media have fact checked it, but I can show jews are really not more at risk in canada that the us or anywhere else.

i want to just say i believe jesse thought he was right at first. sadly, jesse refused to admit his mistake when it was explained to him. 

people are still understandably confused by all the arguments around this number, so first here is the plain-language version of why it is wrong, next i will look at some better comparasons.

both countries collect hate-crime data from police agencies. That is what jesse used and police data is a good source. he did not use info collected by advocacy groups as some people think.

despite it being good data, biggest problem with it is the two data sets are not equally complete, therefor not equally accurate.

canada’s police recorded hate-crime data cover basically the whole country. the usa's don’t.

that is not a tiny technicality. it is like comparing a whole pie with a pie missing a slice

in other words police in canada recorded every single incident (over 99%), while 2,909 police agencies in the usa did not collect anything. The usa completion rate is (95.1%)

that may not sound like a huge gap, but it matters. the usa left 16.8 million people who might have experienced hate crimes out of the data and we don't know how many are jewish. 

when someone (jesse) takes the fbi’s partial crime count and divides it by the entire jewish population of the united states, the u.s. rate is going to look lower than it really is, and also lower than canada which has more complete data

that is not just a problem for anti-jewish hate crimes. all hate crimes in canada will appear higher than the usa because canada hs the whole pie and the usa has a sizeable slice of data missing.

CANADA VS THE USA AND HATE CRIMES - A BETTER WAY

proportionally, reported anti-jewish hate crimes rose in both countries from 2020 to 2024, which is very awful.

we can more accurately compare the rate at which hate crimes are rising.

when we do that, it shows the increase in hate crimes against jews was actually slightly larger in the u.s.a than in canada. 

increase in hate crimes against jews in canada 2020-24. 

Year Police-reported hate crimes targeting Jewish people Change from previous year
2020 331
2021 492 +161 / +49%
2022 527 +35 / +7%
2023 959 +432 / +82%
2024 920 -39 / -4%

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/250722/t006a-eng.htm
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/260330/t001a-eng.htm

increase in hate crimes against jews in usa 2020-24

Year FBI-reported anti-Jewish incidents Change from previous year
2020 683
2021 817 +134 / +19.6%
2022 1,122 +305 / +37.3%
2023 1,832 +710 / +63.3%
2024 1,938 +106 / +5.8%

https://www.justice.gov/archives/crs/highlights/2020-hate-crimes-statistics
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-supplemental-2021-hate-crime-statistics
https://www.justice.gov/archives/crs/highlights/2022-hate-crime-statistics
https://www.justice.gov/crs/news/2023-hate-crime-statistics
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2024-reported-crimes-in-the-nation-statistics
https://hrc-prod-requests.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/assets/images/Reported-Crimes-in-the-Nation-Quick-Stats.pdf

IMPORTANT TAKEAWAYS:

  • canada had a slight decline in antisemitic hate incidents from 2023 to 2024, but the usa continued to rise through 2024. 
  • in canada, the rise of antisemitic hate crimes since 2020 is 178%.
  • in the usa antisemitic hate crimes rose by 184% for the same time period. 
  • that is as apples-to-apples as we can get with available data, 
  • it shows canada proportionally has less of a rise in police reported antisemitic hate crimes than the usa

 

CANADA VS OTHER COUNTRIES

i get that jesse thought he was helping. it was at least initially an honest mistake.

problem #1 was coverage: canada’s data cover nearly the whole country, while the fbi’s leave out a chunk of the u.s.a

problem #2 is that canada and the usa do not define, collect or report hate crimes in exactly the same way.

so i looked at a few other countries where i could find complete police reported data, a reasonable jewish-population estimate. this fixes problem #1: missing data.

it does not fix problem #2: countries still do not define, collect or report hate crimes in exactly the same way.

so it is still imperfect, but the best we can do. 

the conclusion: canada is comparatively safer than the other countries in this table.

Recorded anti-Jewish hate crimes relative to population

Country Recorded incidents Jewish population used Rate per 100,000 Jews Times Canada’s rate
Germany 6,236 125,000 4,989 24.62×
Norway 32 1,300 2,462 12.15×
Sweden 175 15,000 1,167 5.76×
England and Wales* 2,326 287,360 809 3.99×
Poland 56 9,600 583 2.88×
France 1,570 440,000 357 1.76×
Canada 920 453,980 203

WHAT WE LEARNED

there has been a rise in antisemitism in almost every country, including canada. 

but jesse miscalculated the risk to jews in canada compared to the usa and that created more fear than necessary when he did not correct it and it spread all over the internet.

truth: since 2020, canada’s reported anti-jewish hate-crimes (178%) has risen less sharply than the u.s.a. (184%). this is still an unacceptable increase, but it is not less safe to be in canada.

canada is still safer for jews than many other countries, based on the best available data

i am not telling anyone how to feel. i just want people to have the most accurate information possible.

i hope this helped.

SOURCES

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/260330/t001a-eng.htm
https://cjs.journals.yorku.ca/index.php/cjs/article/download/40398/36652/50106
https://www.bka.de/DE/UnsereAufgaben/Deliktsbereiche/PMK/PMKZahlen2024/PMKZahlen2024.html
https://hatecrime.osce.org/reporting/norway/2024
https://hatecrime.osce.org/reporting/sweden/2024
https://hatecrime.osce.org/reporting/poland/2024
https://www.crif.org/ressources/rapports/rapport-annuel-du-spcj-les-chiffres-de-lantisemitisme-en-france-en-2024/
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/religion/articles/jewishidentityenglandandwales/census2021
https://www.cbs.gov.il/he/Documents/World%20DellaPergola%202024%20complete.pdf
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2024/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2024
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2025/hate-crime-england-and-wales-year-ending-march-2025

METHODOLOGY 

i compiled annual anti-jewish incident totals from national police, statistical-agency and official reporting systems, along with jewish-population denominators from census data or demographic estimates.

i entered the source figures into a simple python table and used python to calculate:

  • annual percentage change: (current year − previous year) ÷ previous year × 100
  • rate per 100,000 jewish people: reported incidents ÷ jewish population × 100,000
  • each country’s rate relative to canada: country rate ÷ canada rate
  • calculations were performed using the underlying figures before rounding. rates and percentage changes shown in the table are rounded for readability.
  • python was used only to carry out the arithmetic consistently and reproduce the table. it did not determine which incidents counted as hate crimes or generate the underlying data. those definitions come from the agencies and systems that published each country’s figures.
  • these are not perfectly harmonized international crime statistics. most figures are police-recorded or police-classified hate-crime data, but poland’s figure counts police investigations opened and france’s counts reported antisemitic acts compiled from interior ministry and community-security reporting. the results therefore compare reported rates within each system, not a fully standardized measure of actual antisemitic incidents.

POP STATS

  • england and wales — 287,360: this is a 2021 census-derived “jewish identity” count. it includes people who identified as jewish through the religion question, the ethnic-group question, or both.
  • canada — 453,980: this is a census-derived total jewish population figure based on the 2021 canadian census, rather than an outside demographic estimate. it combines people who reported jewish religion, people who reported jewish cultural or ethnic identity but no religion, and people who reported jewish cultural or ethnic identity alongside another religion. it is broader than the 335,295 who reported judaism as their religion alone.
  • france — 440,000; germany — 125,000; sweden — 15,000; poland — 9,600; norway — 1,300: these are rounded versions of the 2024 core jewish population estimates produced by jewish demographer sergio dellapergola for the annual world jewish population study.
  • “core jewish population” means people who would explicitly identify themselves as jewish. it is narrower than ancestry, people with one jewish parent who do not identify as jewish, non-jewish household members, or everyone eligible under israel’s law of return.
  •  the country estimates draw on the best available mix of census data where available, community-registration records, surveys, demographic trends and migration data. they are estimates, not national census totals.

DATA NOTES

  • the incident totals are not a perfectly harmonized international crime measure.
  • canada, england and wales, germany, sweden and norway use police-recorded or police-classified crime data.
  • poland’s figure is the number of police investigations opened.
  • france’s figure of 1,570 is a count of antisemitic complaints and incidents compiled from interior ministry data and community-security reporting. it is not directly equivalent to a standard police hate-crime series.
  • england-and-wales home office release reports 2,873 anti-jewish religious hate crimes for the year ending march 2025. using that figure would produce a rate of about 1,000 per 100,000 jewish people, or 4.93 times canada’s rate.

LIMITATIONS

  • these incident totals are not a perfectly harmonized international crime measure.
  • canada, england and wales, germany, sweden and norway use police-recorded or police-classified crime data.
  • poland’s figure is the number of police investigations opened.
  • france’s figure of 1,570 is a count of antisemitic complaints and incidents compiled from interior ministry data and community-security reporting. it is not directly equivalent to a standard police hate-crime series.
  •  the current home office annual release reports 2,873 anti-jewish religious hate crimes for the year ending march 2025. using that figure would produce a rate of about 1,000 per 100,000 jewish people, or 4.93 times canada’s rate.
u/ProfessionNo7941 — 9 days ago

jesse slowly changing position in doscord

one thing i've noticed is that jesse seems to be slowly shifting his position. he's now saying it's okay to criticize israel's government and politics without being antisemitic, which feels like a pretty significant change from where he was a few years ago.that's why i think the point in this post is interesting. most of the protests i've attended have been exactly that: people criticizing the israeli government and the war, not arguing that israel shouldn't exist. meanwhile, jesse has often portrayed these protests as broadly antisemitic, but that just hasn't matched what i've seen on the ground.sure, every large protest attracts a few extremists who say awful things. that's real. but people like caryma tend to build entire narratives around the one or two worst people they can find in a crowd of hundreds or thousands. the same thing happens on the other side too, but those clips rarely get the same attention.at some point i wonder if jesse will follow this line of thinking to its logical conclusion and admit what seems pretty obvious: the vast majority of people showing up to these protests aren't antisemitic. they're just regular people protesting a war they oppose.it'd be nice to see him take that final step and admit he was wrong to spend so much time aligning himself with people like ben shapiro, sad vlad, and other pretty blatant racists on the pro-israel side of this debate.but my guess is he'll eventually just act like that was never really his position, and that he always understood the antisemitic voices were a small minority, because jesse always doubles down except when his legal insurance hits a limit on a law suit and forces him to apologize it seems.

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u/ProfessionNo7941 — 14 days ago

for the badhasbara fans

https://preview.redd.it/nulmfk1ntg6h1.png?width=638&format=png&auto=webp&s=371059c57298b9a2ebcc2dd80e8fd54cbbaca937

mystery solved: jesse wasn’t randomly crashing out about matt lieb and daniel maté on x the other day — they’d mentioned him again. https://youtu.be/1aVKHLq6fEg?si=qbNVV8UtMDOWaIbz&t=5556

honestly, it’s kind of funny that jesse seems obsessed with listening to their show and wanting to go on it. when he criticized rachel, and she pointed out he never even called her before making a whole show about her, his defence was that he didn’t have to because it was “criticism,” not reporting.

yet another weird jesse double standard: rules for me, rules for thee.

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u/ProfessionNo7941 — 26 days ago

this feels disingenuous

https://preview.redd.it/thwk9uz6od6h1.png?width=665&format=png&auto=webp&s=93308c4fe2b24e350aee3c751806d56bdf3632c9

jesse's apology feels very "sorry but not sorry." he barely gets the apology out before pivoting to this tweet about why the defamation supposedly didn't matter anyway.

and yeah, obviously the 'we' team is going to tell their side of the story, but i think they're right on this point. jesse is trying to redirect the conversation by saying the series was never really about theresa kielburger so who cares? but that's not the issue.

whether she was central to the series or not is beside the point. the issue is that jesse published something he knew wasn't true that he knew would ruin a woman's reputation. i don't really care what else was covered in the series. right now, i want to talk about that and why he chose to publish something that he knew wasn't true even if he got every single other fact right. Jesse seems to be more worried about his own reputation management than he regrets doing this awful thing.

>“It was a foundational allegation on which Canadaland built its broader thesis that the Kielburger family had personally and improperly benefited from WE Charity. That claim is now formally retracted,” WE Charity stated in a Tuesday morning press release. “The court found that Mr. Brown was in possession of the very documents that disproved it and never mentioned them. He never contacted Mrs. Kielburger before publication.”

>“Canadaland brands itself as Canada’s media accountability outlet, whose stated purpose is to hold other journalists to higher standards,” the release continued. “The court’s findings describe an outlet that republished a known false claim, ignored documents in its own possession that disproved it, and never asked its subject to respond. These are the very failures Canadaland claims to exist to call out in others.”

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u/ProfessionNo7941 — 26 days ago