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This has become a literal troll channel thank's to the inflow of edgy individuals trying to make fun of the primal diet, not even knowing what it is. It seems that their unfamiliarity and dismissal of the consumption of raw meats has led them to create random made up posts of them claiming to eat random dead animals or asking outrageous health questions just because they look down on everyone who doesn't fit the mainstream concensus. Those who are not familiar with the life's work of Aajonus Vonderplanitz should not be allowed to post on this channel. Those who's only purpose is to mock the Primal diet and this channel should be permanently baned, reported for harassment or spam and definitely not responded to!

I hope someone will do something about this issue because now we don't know if responses are true even if someone has a genuine question - especially if someone is looking for dietary guidance for health issues - which could actually be dangerous. This diet objectvely has the capacity to cure almost any illness - it's not made up - it's refined from ancient dietary practices and principles. It has the potential to change lives - IT IS NOT A JOKE - please don't let it become a meme.

I was mostly on and off pharma grade test e at around 250mg weekly for around 2.5 years - I would probably be on for about 4 to 6 months then just cold turkey off for around 1-3 months. I don't have the precise timeline or any notes but I would recover every single time almost instantaneously - my balls would swell up just a few days after I would miss an injection. Obviously this wasn't the best practise but I didn't have any issues. Then, around the end of 2024 i did a 3 month 500mg test e cycle followed by a 6.5 month 200mg "cruise" - that was I'd rather stupid protocol but I was under extreme stress and didn't want to miss out a single day of training. Now this was July of 2025 and I ran out of my legit pharma source. To my own surprise I recovered again almost instantaneously. But I was so addicted to lifting weights that I tried sourcing any type of gear and after less than a month I got my hands on some multi ester testosterone blend - I don't know what the hell it was so out of caution I just took 0.1 cc and I had a panic attack and some cough, it's seemingly had "testosterone acetate" in it (not tren, at least not on the label) - and I tried again around two or three times within a week the last time injecting 0.2 cc of whatever that blend was - after that I felt like crap for almost a whole month, but I recovered again seemingly without issue - but then, the stupid idiot I was I got my hands on some deca and I injected immediately 100mg - in just 6 hours after the injection I had the worst panic attack of my entire life as I felt poisoned or drugged - nothing I have ever felt previously from testosterone or the small amounts of anavar I took - after 2 days I got some test-e from the same UGL and injected 125mg and got back to training trying to ignore any symptoms but I couldn't really out train the panic. My sleep was compromised and the next week I just took another 125mg of the UGL test-e and continued training and I overtrained rather severely. This was in september 2025 - by the end of the month I had developed a horrible breathing issue - I couldn't get enough air in and I developed palpitations. The breathing issue was not panic as regardless how I felt when I lied down horizontally I couldn't breathe. I went to every possible doctor got every single blood test, cardiovascular checkup (ultrasound, ergospirometry - but nothing). I went to the ER at least 3 times during that month and they cleared me every time even though I literally couldn't get air in properly when I would lie down horizontally. I went to a neurologist and ENT also - nothing according to them. Nothing according to any test or regular blood work. Early october I just woke up one day choking and all the emotion went away completely - the next 2 months - untill a day in the first week in december when I woke up as if nothing happened - I spent in a dreamlike state with low blood pressure and palpitations (pots- like symptoms) thinking I was going to die well until I snapped back to normal. During that period I did about 2 weeks I guess of nolvadex at around 20mg on average daily for PCT - I quit because it made me feel much worse - I don't even know if perhaps the nolvadex was somehow the trigger - as this period was so blurry that I can't remember how long I even waited before taking it.

Now, because I assumed this all was caused by Nebivolol withdrawal according to my cardiologist - I was taking about 5-10mg to calm my heart so I could sleep properly that whole year and when this crap happened I figured out it messed with my BP so I quit it and it's almost certainly contributed. Now this time it was not so easy to recover probably because it was deca - only 100mg, but still - I somewhat recovered so I felt like shit. I tried going back to training but I felt so horrible because I couldn't push myself nearly as much as I could on testosterone that I just decided after one or two weeks of training without it to take a shot of testosterone. I felt fine. The next 4 months I spent on a cycle of 375mg of UGL test e and I used up 100 10mg tablets of d-bol during that period - I mostly used it as a pre-workout to push my rather stupidly intense 2 hour daily workout sessions. Now I figured out I over trained like an idiot. I put on around 20kg during that period (mostly because I lost around 10 kg - 1kg = 2.2 pounds) - I felt great and was exhausted - decided I need to take at least two weeks of probably because I almost killed myself with training. March first this year I took a rest day. I felt fine for the next 3 days then all of the sudden I just woke up in the same condition I just recovered almost 4 months before that. I couldn't breathe properly - I had no emotion - I was in a dream like state. Wtf?! I just stoped training, tried to recover but I couldn't sleep because I was choking when I would lay down and to make it worse, now I was much bigger than last year so it was quite a lot worse breathing wise. I tried to switch to a legit TRT dose up untill June 1.

when I did 15 days of HCG (I can't even remember how much I took - I had around 8000 IUs) this is the first time I actually used HCG - I should have ran it longer obviously as my balls were not completely full yet - I just took around 4 10mg worth of Nolva, but I remembered how the last time it made me feel worse so I stoped. By July i was started to get better I just had very, very low energy and I looked at my tiny balls and figured out - Shit! I'm not recovering. So I decided to just power through 20mg daily of Nolva and after just 1 week I woke up retarded again. I had zero attention span - but perhaps my breathing was a bit better but I had no emotions and felt like I was in a dream. Now this is important - my CPAP arrived just a week before that - I hoped that a CPAP would fix my breathing issues because it allowed me to sleep while horizontal. I don't think it helped at all for my recovery and I did have quite serious sleep apnoea which I didn't address previously. Now I didn't know what to do because no physician found out what was wrong with me. I even did a CT of the torso and - nothing. I feel about that my breathing issue and wheezing was somehow related with my blood vessels clamping for some reason and I could feel it all around the body - in fact the last year they actually hurt - I'm talking about peripheral blood vessels mostly in the extremities. So my best guess is that something is also constricted in the lungs that flies under every medical radar. Again I don't know - It could be DPDR, it could be a weird reaction to tamoxifen (I think this one is almost certain) - it could be too many ridiculous hormonal swings - too many cycles started and aborted over a single year. It could be something in the UGL carrier oil. It could be the overtraining - I don't know! If anyone knows anything please do share it I am feeling like I already died. The only thing truly giving me the will to live is the fact that I recovered completely albeit slowly just 8 months ago. No long ester is left in my system. My gonads didn't recover properly - so I decided to run 30 days of HCG at 150IU daily or perhaps double the dose - I'm 3 days in. The gonads do respond but shaky - By all logic they should be good to go in 4 weeks and they should be able to receive the pituitary signal. It's far from ideal without a SERM. I even got enclo, but felt like I'm going to vomit and have a seizure after just a 5mg test dose - thankfully I didn't take more and the next day that sensation went away thankfully. I have some Kisspeptin I took a few 66mcg dosages EOD with the HCG if that even makes sense - I'll get another vial to use if I need it after I finish the HCG as my brain can't handle any SERM obviously. I don't know what happened and what's wrong with me but even if my HPTA axis is not properly recovering these symptoms do not correspond to this issue as far as I know. I would just I assume I have extremely low energy and bit tired all the time possibly even have insomnia - but whatever this is my best guess would be I messed up some receptors or I accumulated systemic stress and the Nolva took whatever little brain I had left - I hope it will clear soon. And I guess without proper functioning gonads the recovery will be an issue. I know that everything I did seemed like extremely stupid rookie mistakes but I assure you I'm not that stupid I was just desperate to not stop training. I don't think there should be any question if I will recover by just the logic that only 7 months ago I recovered after a damn 19-nor and that only a year ago I snapped back instantly while I was on pharma test. Any suggestions would be welcome! I hope I will not remain like this for too long and I'll never touch a damn PED in my life after this. It's just not for me. I can't stop training while on it.

TL;DR: well this is impossible to compact - if you are not willing to read it then could you just tell me what my options to restore my endogenous production after starting and stoping cycles for 4 times within a year - while having made a 100% recovery fast and without issue just 12 months ago. I can't tolerate SERM's - seems that time allergic or something - I have both nolva and enclo and I just can't take them. After a failed restart - I didn't use enough HCG and this is the first time I ever used HCG so I ran it for just 15 days. Does it make sense to just run 150IU's ED for 4 weeks and finish of with kisspeptin or nothing at all?

Good day! I hope I'm not going to ask something that was already asked as I'm not able to find it.

I have all Aajonus's books - I just got them and I have only skimmed through them being already familiar with his lectures - of course I will read them thoroughly - but I was looking for a quick answer which I don't seem able to find. My food sources are rather limited - I'm trying to source raw milk which would be obviously a game changer. Until then the best milk I have access to is organic pasteurised milk and I'm wondering if fermenting it with kefir grains would at least make it somewhat compatible with this diet - does the bacteria and yeasts in the grains at least somewhat fix the damage done to the milk? If not my protein/fat sources are limited to raw eggs (I'm still trying to find unsalted cheese - and it's surprisingly hard) and meat. I have access to lamb pluck and beef liver - from a regular butcher shop - sadly nothing organic. These I don't have issue with eating raw at all - however I'm wondering if I'm just starting out the diet can I eat all meat from the butcher shop completely raw? For example - pork belly, whole chicken and any lamb/goat/beef cut? And I assume all fish also as long as it's fresh and not frozen?

TL:DR : for anyone willing to share their experience - when starting this diet - what can I eat raw from a regular butcher shop that's not going to cause issues as Aajonus seemingly only mentions organic pasture raised animals explicitly as far as I know. Also is eating kefir made with kefir grains from organic pasteurised milk acceptable or should I forgo the milk if I don't find it raw?