u/Prudent_Fix_1769

How to read in Finnish symbols like : and /

I have always struggled to remember how to read symbols aloud.

  • "1:1", "2:3", etc. in Finnish? (This is the most troublesome one)
  • "1 vs 1", "2 vs 2" in Finnish? (yksi vastaan yksi, kaksi vastaan kaksi? )
  • "3/4", etc. in Finnish? (kolme neljäsosa? or kolme neljästä?)

And other important symbols as examples, if possible! Thanks.

A relevant link or even just the words would suffice, as I can search for them online myself. :D

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u/Prudent_Fix_1769 — 10 days ago

Makkarakastike on hyvää!

Makkarakastike on hyvää! I know this or I hope I know this one. However, "makkarakastike on parempi kuin kaalikeitto" or "onko makkarakastike parempi vai kaalikeitto" have nominative, not partitive.

Kaalikeitto on hyvää, mutta makkarakastike on parempi?

Can someone explain this to me? Thanks.

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u/Prudent_Fix_1769 — 28 days ago

Such a clear case of not-partitive as far as I am concerned 🫩

Can someone shed light on why the first one is in partitive?

u/Prudent_Fix_1769 — 1 month ago

Tullen, tullessa & tultaessa

Hän pettää tilaisuuden tullen vai tullessa? And how about tultaessa?

I’m confused about their meanings and usages.

Tullen = by coming, when coming? Tullessa = while coming, when it comes? Tultaessa = upon coming?

I’ve kind of understood that “tilaisuuden tullen” is correct or it's a phrase, but I don’t see why we can’t use “tullessa” instead. Obviously, one could compose a sentence using “tilaisuuden tultaessa” also and have the same meaning as with tullen or tullessa?

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u/Prudent_Fix_1769 — 1 month ago

Koko suku on ........

Koko suku on varkaita. Koko suku on rosvoja. Koko perhe on huijareita.

Vai

varas, rosvo, huijari?

I am trying to understand where it takes singular, plural, and possibly the partitive.

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u/Prudent_Fix_1769 — 1 month ago

Is this how it goes with "sallittu vai sallittua" case also?

My own understanding from consulting whatever showed up in web searches is that "kiellettyä" or "sallittua" is "jaollinen" meaning it applies universally, whereas "kielletty" or "sallittu" applies to a specific place, case, or people only. So, yeah, that's how it goes!

Mielipide?

u/Prudent_Fix_1769 — 2 months ago

Parissa viikossa vai pariin viikkoon

>pahimpina ylityöaikoina on tienannut yli neljää donaa pariin viikkoon

I often encounter situations where I need to decide between e.g. parissa viikossa and pariin viikkoon. What is the grammar rule or logic behind choosing one over the other?

In this example, I suppose both pariin viikkoon and parissa viikossa work, but are there specific grammar rules that dictate which one to use and in what circumstances?

Another example: En ole nähnyt häntä pariin viikkoon / pariksi viikoksi / parissa viikossa.

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u/Prudent_Fix_1769 — 2 months ago

sen vertaa vs sen verran

What distinguishes these two terms? The one found in Wiktionary (sen verran) is the standard version, while the other, which isn't listed there, appears to be more colloquial. Is that accurate?

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u/Prudent_Fix_1769 — 2 months ago