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Reached 35 years on my current save, unfortunately reached the point where it has saved issues. Guessing the save data has got too big. Had just semi started a WWF V NWA storyline that was to including people choosing their side and eventually unification matches, (I formed WWF in 1963 took over NWA as a second brand in 1976)

Any recommendations on which scenario to play if I do stop this save, I've previously played dawn of wrestlemania (from 84-2012) and Dawn Of Monday Night Wars

Really wanted this to get to modern day, may still carry it on just saving locally will be more annoying if lose progress.

(Due to NWA being brought out by WWF in 1976 and the original NWA Tag Team championships being retired in the game some history is unable to be looked up)

By far my favourite created tag team in all my saves on JOW. Created due to a lack of tag teams especially babyface tag teams, Red Bastien and Red Mckim two babyfaces with no direction formrd Red Dead Redemption in 1959.

Giving them a "bad ass babyface cowboy" gimmick the two became the longest running team of the save, 20+ years together as a team winning their first Tag Team titles in the NWA in May 1959.

They held the NWA Tag Team titles twice before I left the NWA to form Elite Pro Wrestling Japan in 61.

Forming the WWF in 63 they were one of the first teams I signed.

Red Dead won their first WWF Tag Team titles in July 1964.

The first Wrestlemania was 1966 and the teams second WWF Tag Team Title reign was ended by Antonio Inoki and Giant Baba, after the match the two teams showed a huge amount of respect towards each other.

Although two years later at Wrestlemania 3 was the first time Red Dead won the WWF Tag Team Titles at Wrestlemania, winning them from Mad Dog Vachon and Butcher Vachon in a violent bunk house match, the two teams meeting in various gimmick matches over the years.

Summerslam 1970 Red Dead lost to Gorilla Monsoon and Killer Kowalski in a barbed wire steel cage first blood match, the first in WWF as their year long feud finally came to a end.

The team would always feature in big 4 V 4 or 5 V 5 tag team matches, and were always two of the top babyfaces on the roster.

Red Bastien won the Royal Rumble in 71 and went on to win the WWF World Heavyweight championship from Nick Bockweinkel, that same Wrestlemania Red Mckim won the US championship from Stan Stasiak. Although Mckims US title reign was cut short due to a long injury.

Mckim returned from that injury to win The Royal Rumble the next year, Wrestlemania 7 was Red Dead V Red Dead as Red Bastien successfully defended his title, the two shook hands and hugged after the bell.

Red Bastien held the WWF World Heavyweight championship for 13 months his reign was ended by André the Giant in May 1971.

The two would always team up with Bruno, Dory Funk JR, Dusty Rhodes and others in big main event tag team matches as well as occasionally wrestling solo at times, they won the WWF Six Man Tag Team Titles twice, once with Dusty Rhodes and once with Dory Funk JR.

Wrestlemania 12 1977 it had been SIX long years since the team had held tag team gold and they won them here in a bull rope match against The Wild Samoans in a match that is still one of the highest rated in WWF history winning "Craziest match of the year" at the in game awards.

This title reign is at it stands the longest in WWF history at 19 months long with 15 title defences.

The teams final rivalry was with André The Giant and Big John Studd of the Heenan Family who ended this reign winning the titles from Red Dead at Survivor Series 1977.

The two teams met in various gimmick matches, Red Dead always losing through distraction or cheating, Red Dead would always come out on top in 3 V 3, 4 V 4 or 5 V 5 matches.

With it being announced that at Wrestlemania 14 in 1979 that the WWF World Tag Team championships and WWF United States Tag Team Championships would be unified Red Deads only chance at revenge on André and Studd was to win the US Tag Titles to get into the unification match.

They defeated the holders the North and South connection (Adrian Adonis and Dick Murdoch) at Royal Rumble 1979, and finally defeated André and Studd at Wrestlemania 14 that same year.

Red Mckim shocked the world the next day announcing his retirement from Wrestling, the WWF US Tag Titles were retired and WWF Tag Team Championships declared Vacant.

Red Bastien at 48 continued to wrestle, was given a new look, long gray beard, long black coat and black hat, a old gunslinger/outlaw looking for one more shot at glory before he rides into the sunset.

He won The Royal Rumble 1980 and then at Wrestlemania 15 he won the WWF World Heavyweight championship for a second time in the main event winning the title from Ric Flair.

After retaining the title against Stan Hansen at Summerslam 80 Red shook his hand and endorsed him as the new big bad outlaw cowboy of the WWF.

Red held lost WWF World Heavyweight championship till Survivor Series 1980 when he lost it back to Ric Flair.

He was unsuccessful in a attempt to win the Royal Rumble in January of 1981, and faced a uncertain future.

The march event was renamed Red Dead Redemption in 1981, a tag team tournament set to name number one contenders for the tag team championships at Wrestlemania in honour of Red Dead Redemption, Red Bastien was the special guest referee for the final, after the match it was expected he would announce his retirement when Bruno Sammartino approached the ring.

He said before Red rides off into the sunset he wants to face him, for the first time one on one at Wrestlemania, Red accepted the match.

Wrestlemania 16 1981 Red Bastien defeated Bruno Sammartino, the two shook hands and hugged as Red Bastien announced his retirement, leaving his cowboy hat in the ring.

Title Reigns NWA World Tag Team Champions X2 WWF Tag Team Champions X7 WWF United States Tag Team Champions

WWF Six Man Tag Team Champions X2 (X1 with Dusty Rhodes X1 With Dory Funk JR)

Individual Titles Red Bastien WWF World Heavyweight X2

Red Mckim WWF United States X1

With his son Ludvig Kaiser/Axel Dieter JR/Marcel Barthel extremely popular as El Grande Americano...and in the news this week and with Axel Dieter on my Dawn Of The NWA save at a loose end after the end of The Iron Syndicate Stable he was part of has ended,

I thought why not create a new gimmick and incorporate some modern wrestling into it, and now have a ready made feud for Mil Mascaras who I've also done little with.

Long live El Grande Alemán!

Starting as the NWA in 1948, Killer Kowalski was one of my first signings, starting off on the training roster. I decided to make him a version of Walter/Gunther for this save.

Has a win/loss record of 265-64.

Spent a total of 53 Months as WWF World Heavyweight champion over 4 reigns.

Killer ended up a 7 Time World Champion (WWF World Heavyweight X4 NWA World Heavyweight champion X 3 (2 were AI booked)

WWF Tag Team Champion X2, (With Gorilla Monsoon) NWA Coast to Coast Champion X2 (AI Booked) NWA National Champion,

Pushed as a dominant heel from the start, he won his first title at NWA Summer Showdown 1953 winning the NWA National Championship a title he held for 60 Months, the longest title reign of the save and I've booked on JOW losing the title to Karl Gotch at Summer Showdown 1958.

He won his first world title the NWA World heavyweight Title in July 1960 and held for 5 months before losing it to Lou Thesz.

Killer was AI booked from January 1961-May 1963 as I left NWA to form Elite Pro Wrestling Japan.

Forming the WWF in May 1963, Killer was one of my first signings and the first ever WWF World champion, beating Bruno Sammartino in a tournament final, he held the title for 20 months, losing it to Dory Funk before winning it back a few months later and holding it for nearly a year before losing it to Bruno Sammartino at the first Wrestlemania in 1966.

Forming a dominant tag team with Gorilla Monsoon, and eventually forming the heel stable The Iron Syndicate, which lead to him and Gorilla friends and a team for ten years, their relationship falling apart, Gorilla turning face winning the title from Killer at Wrestlemania 10.

Winning the title back from Gorilla his Wrestlemania career went full circle when ten years on from their history making first Wrestlemania main event, at Wrestlemania 11 in 1975 he faced his biggest rival Bruno Sammartino in a violent I Quit match, once again losing the title, this time Killer and Bruno shook hands, with their near ten year on/off rivalry finally over Killer announced his retirement.