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Gold Family Trees (V2)

House Raa mistakenly includes Aja as the mother to Bellerephon - his mother is unknown; the corrected tree has been updated in the IMGbb link to the high res pictures:

See here for a high resolution album of these, as Reddit heavily compresses images.

See here for V1, and included reasoning

Let me know if there are any errors or rough parts. Raa is a bit of a mess. I intend to make House-Cards with some details but I want to use Blender for their respective worlds so I don't go insane.

  • Changes:
    • 1 Augustan removed to declutter. Arcos & Bellona incest (yikes) lines removed.
    • Font altered on all trees; this was a huge pain in the ass, but it makes it much more legible and clear.
    • Nameplates were also all variably textured & Primus Laurels matched to their respective colors.
    • 9th child of Tiberius added, seemingly a male?
    • House Raa logo updated slightly to make it appear more rough & less glossy.
    • House Raa has new members: Fabera au Raa, cited as the granddaughter of Gaia, and Bellagra au Raa necessarily is the 'grandniece' of Gaia, which necessitates Revus to have a sibling. Two siblings are now present in addition to Atlas and Vela: an Uncle briefly referred to that cannot be Atlas, and a tetralogy reference to a sister younger than Atlas, who is younger than Vela, excluding Vela from being that sister. These possibly are retconned, but they are never mentioned again, and one of Romulus' siblings has children elder than his own.
    • Some wives had their color schemes altered to give contrast of non-descendants in a tree.
    • Octavia had a portrait added and Lysander was replaced.
    • Alexandar portrait added - could not find artist credit.
    • Added a golden fox.
    • Kavax (wrestler), Roque, Magnus & Aja & Ajax have had portraits added.

Credits:

  • Fox, Dragon by Lorc, shapes adjusted
  • Skull by ProfAuthor, Griffin & Lion by LitEscalates (Joel?), shapes adjusted
  • Diomedes, Victra (recolored) (pbdoodles); Aja, Octavia (Vogtpaintings); Ajax (Pallas Illustration); Pax, Virginia (recolored) (Magali Villeneuve)
  • Rest are models or actors with filters to stylize them. Some I think are too realistic when compared to the rest, let me know if you think so.
  • SVGsilh for misc SVGs
u/RedJamie — 11 hours ago
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Gold Houses - Family Trees

Scroll through - images are inserted for some characters. Reddit compresses images, here they are in their original resolutions.

KNOWN ERRORS EDIT: Servilla is not related to Lorn, should not have a line there. Same for Julia to Julius au Bellona; no relation there. If you see a pairing in a family line that implies incest, that was an error on my part. Will be making a V2 with some more Houses that I can determine, so I'll correct it then

I am sure I butchered how family trees are actually supposed to be designed, but I just wanted to depict the lineages and most of the known Gold characters and implied relations, as we have had some new information arise from the Book of Lorn, and some of the other family trees out there are not comprehensive. The wiki also has some conjectural relations I am not sure are solidly detailed in the books themselves. I did not always include the spouse, if it strained the dimensions of the individual House e.g. Aja & Anastasia, partly because I am lazy.

I also wanted to try stylizing it a bit, adding some of the sigils I used in the Legion Iconography 1 & 2 I did. There are some changes to what is canonical:

  • The House Raa dragon has three heads, not four as I am awful at editing the butchery I did to the dragon head. It is a mixture of a dragon by Lorc & an SVG of the Rim logo from the books. It is also supposedly White, but Raa is described as blue as well, so I combined them.
  • The House Telemanus sigil is based in part on the Telemanus sigil mocked up by pbdoodles, the fox itself is by Lorc.
  • House Fabii I do not recall being given a standard, so I used an SVG of the US Mace by DraftSaturn. The item depicted is a historical Fasces, which was used in Rome binding around axes to represent the legal authority that Roque's family possesses. Though, instead of it being an axe or the American Eagle, I replaced it with the winged pyramid to represent a variation on the Sovereign's scepter. None of this is canonical. I had to include Hortensia, our 173 year old dearest grandmother of the series.
  • The Grimmus skull was given Societal triangles and a smoky sphere for what is intended to represent Rhea reflecting in the eyes of the skull. The skull is by ProfAuthor.
  • The House Arcos Griffin is what is depicted in the BoL, I traced the bitmap of it - fairly sure the credit is to Joel at LitEsc.

Some Canon Comments:

  • Nero is cited in Golden Son to have a younger sister; she is also referred to as an 'aunt' by one of Nero's children. This is seemingly retconned as of Sons of Ares vol.3, in which Nero was the only surviving Augustus of his generation.
    • However, considering Augustus was raised in the court of House Cylus as a favored ward, and that we have precedence for House Augustus adopting members into their lineage (~late 1st or early 2nd century PCE), it may be that this is an adopted sister, or possibly a sister in law to Nero, the sister of Adrius, Claudius, and Virginia's mother. Otherwise, there is a contradiction - I included her as it is explicit in the series.
    • Nero's fourth child - a daughter - died prior to the series. Kind of a borderline to include it, but it was given a sex, so I felt it was specific enough.
  • Dorian au Arcos is implied to be rather young as of Iron Gold, however, Lorn's sons were deceased as of the events of the series. The Arcos Widows are not noted to have remarried, nor is it clear that such a case would have resulted in the child taking the name of House Arcos. Dorian's parentage is thus up in the air.
    • We know that Lorn has a granddaughter that is notably older than the rest of his grandchildren: she gives birth in the events of the series. There is a 2-3 year window in which Dorian au Arcos could have been born to that member of the family, making Dorian a possible great grand child to Lorn.
  • Hadrian au Arcos is cited to be the cousin to Alexandar, brother to Alexandar, and brother to Drusilla on the Wiki. This is not possible. In the text, no direct relationship is clear other than that he is a cousin to Alexandar I am fairly sure. Drusilla is described as 'darker' than the rest, which I infer to mean she is likely of a different parentage than Hadrian.
  • Elandar au ??? & Spiridon's children are implied, as Lorn refers to 'his sons' plural, which would include himself. However, we are never given insight into whether or not Lorn had siblings nor are any present in the Book of Lorn in the early chapters where Nefeli au Arcos is depicted.
    • Elandar is described as a second cousin to Alexandar, which leaves two candidates: Nefeli au Arcos and Spiridon, or Servilla's parents as the shared great grandparents. He is not given a surname, so it is unclear, but I have attributed it to the sons of Spiridon (brothers to Lorn) considering they are apparently a thing! It would mean Lorn has a living nephew crudely around the series, as Elandar is of a crude age to Alexandar.
  • House Bellona has its relations depicted awkwardly, as the exact relationship between the cousins is unclear. In GS, there are 'brothers' referred to with respect to Kellan, and a female cousin to Cagney. This could be one of Cassius' elder sisters, who we know exist as Cassius cites being an Uncle, but it would be odd to specify Cagney and Kellan and not a sister.
    • The Wiki has eight sons of Tiberius, but I could not discern the last one aside from them being implied to exist.
  • House Raa has a few to note: one is that Revus' father is briefly mentioned, which is of the same generation (I presume) as Ovidius au Lune, or ~<630s PCE. Additionally, Aeneas (Romulus' eldest) had two cousins referred to: an older female cousin, and a younger brother to that cousin. This implies two things:
    • that the cousins are the children of Vela, which is most likely, or that they are the children of the next point.
    • There is brief mention of an 'uncle' to a child of Romulus, which would presumably refer to Atlas au Raa, who is by plot context highly unlikely to be the one referred to. It could refer to Dido au Saud's brother (not Marcus au Saud) who may have been visiting the Raa, but it is very vague.
  • House Lune interestingly has a few bits. For one, Octavia is cited to have a male cousin, implying Ovidius had siblings. BoLe6 also makes reference to a 'Falthe-Lune' female of either Lorn's or Ovidius' generation.
    • These hyphenations are seemingly done when there is a marriage: Severus-Julii, Valii-Raath, Solus-Thorne.
    • Lune however is unlikely to defer its name considering their pedigree, so the exact relation is still up in the air; the language used implies it is predominantly a Falthe.
u/RedJamie — 4 days ago

Images imported into Inkscape have a gray sheen (not a filter)

I'm attempting to integrate a few images into Inkscape (to avoid having to export from Inkscape as an image and do the edits I want in Krita).

Some of my images, despite having comparable sizes, appear as the leftmost image on the software - their colors are muted. The image to the right is 1kb larger and they are almost identical in comparison - both are PNGs with transparent backgrounds. I see this happen occasionally on Reddit photos as attachments if they are too large. I can't seem to find something indicating why for this case.

Does anyone know if there is a fix to this? It is not a View->Grayscale or View->Outline setting, and I can't find anyone mentioning this online as a problem.

https://preview.redd.it/gacqew1nsgah1.png?width=512&format=png&auto=webp&s=2bbdbd4c93d0ddc345042928766abf2d998d4b3c

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u/RedJamie — 5 days ago