My bumahh just realised that the tweet isn’t saying that the Yourself skins won’t get reworked AT all, but they’re saying that adding shi like bundles and packages (ie changing your body type) won’t be done.

It’s still very much possible that we’ll be getting better customisation since the leaked Roadmap (though it’s reliability is questionable since some smaller events were changed, it still got the main details right and was confirmed to be real) says that “custom yourself” is part of the Stalker update. So at the very least, it’s NOT out of the question.

I was on a post earlier abt Forsaken characters being ranked on how much they deserve being Forsakened, and I see Vee and 7n7 both on the “they did bad things but they’ve changed”. Makes sense, right? They’re both like opposites of each other, 7n7 did bad things but is now trying to live a good life and take responsibility for his actions by stopping c00lkidd. Vee did good things but is now living a bad life and hasn’t taken responsibility for her actions (“oouurugh man… it’s too late for me to turn back…” daughter 😭😭😭).

Tell me why the hell there’s actually mfs that not only think the two shouldn’t be in the same tier (more often than not misinterpreting what the tier means), but saying 7n7 is a TERRORIST? Like just cuz y’all found out a new word doesn’t mean you can throw it around willy nilly. I can’t believe I have to explain the meaning of a word, but if I had a quarter for every time I heard 7n7 was a terrorist, I’d put Elon to shame. Idk if this rant is ok since yk, it’s mature shi but if the mods don’t care that so many people say this, I don’t see why a post correcting that is a problem (if it is, mb then).

Why 7n7 is literally NOT a terrorist:

Firstly, what is a “terrorist”? Most of y’all are probably like “ah yes… a terrorist… one who terrors! ahhh, good ol’ English!” which is why most of y’all were saying it. Now, we must firstly understand what the act of “terrorism” means. Buckle up, y’all.

Now, terrorism means ,“the calculated use of violence, or the threat of violence, to induce fear in a population or coerce a government. It is typically carried out to advance political, religious, or ideological goals.” And if we follow US law (since Roblox is a US-based company, I will use US law), terrorism requires three things.

1. “to intimidate or coerce a population”
2. “to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion”
3. “to affect the conduct of a government”

Now, I know 7n7’s lore was rewritten recently but if y’all just took even ONE brief read, would you notice something? That’s right, 7n7’s story LACKS all that!

Why? Well let’s look at these points again.

1. “to intimidate or coerce a population” probably the closest, but no. To do that would mean 7n7 wanted to instill fear or fracture a community, but that’s NOT true. We already know 7n7’s motives in fact, he built the GUI and used it because he wanted some cheap thrills.
2. “to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion” never tried to do that.
3. “to affect the conduct of a government” never tried to do that.

A point someone I’ve seen bring up is that 7n7 is said to have been as “destructive as King Von”, a genuine quote by M1, who rewrote c00lkidd’s lore. Von is not a terrorist either, he is a criminal.

In conclusion?

Simply put, 7n7 is NOT a terrorist. Please factcheck your words before you decide to throw them around.

Alex is still going to be working on the game, but as a community contributor. Basically like koekoenaut, where he's still allowed to make skins and do stuff except he's not officially a dev. Idk the specifics but if we assume it's like what koekoenaut is doing rn, then y'all dont need to worry abt the abberant skins being scrapped ig.

I’ve seen a few posts about the Thomas line thing. It’s ok to get upset about it or dislike the name choice… but SOME of y’all are just genuinely making up problems. (This is not meant to be a transphobic post)

1. Azure calling them Thomas

So many of y’all are saying that “Oururughh Azure is deadnaming them!!!!”. Did y’all not read the Chrisaken lore??? Two Time is a NICKNAME. A NICKNAME Azure gave them. NOWHERE was it said that Two Time even had a deadname to begin with. Azure calling them by their actual name shows how much he hates them now, he does not bother calling them by the nickname he gave them during their happier times.

2. Nonbinary erasure or smth

Two Time having a male name is NOT nonbinary erasure or smth 😭😭😭 they are still nonbinary, nothing has changed. “Uurgh they should have a gender neutral name!!!!!” Not every nonbinary person wants to be androgynous or perfectly gender neutral. You can be nonbinary while presenting as feminine or masculine. Slasher is an example of this. He is AMAB and has a name associated with being male (Jason), but that doesn’t make him any less genderfluid. I’d argue this is more sincere representation, that you don’t need to be perfectly androgynous to be nonbinary. That is already a stereotype about nonbinary people (and based off some of the comments I’ve seen, some ppl believe in that stereotype) and the point of representation is to go beyond those stereotypes and show that queer people are more than that. The Pride skins being removed was an accident and they plan on bringing them back (in case I forgor).

3. “It gives more excuse for ppl to be transphobic”

Can we be for real abt smth? Whether Two Time was named Thomas or Shelly or Ora or whatever the nut y’all can come up with, there will STILL be transphobes. You shouldn’t let those mfs stop you from trying to make sincere representation. There will ALWAYS be people who get the wrong message. You shouldn’t have to censor or change your intent and message because transphobes exist, that’s what’s been happening with queer representation in media for decades. If people are gonna be transphobes, they can suck it up. If we succumb to the pressure of transphobes, we will just be perpetuating the same old stereotypes.

Does the name Thomas suck?

When it’s compared to the other Spawn Cult characters like Aspen and Amarah…. Yes. I can’t deny that y’all 😭😭😭 you’re allowed to hate on the name and think there were better choices, but can we NOT make up problems pls? It’s ok for y’all to not like the name, but do it right please.

I’m so ufcking tired rn, i js woke up and had horrible sleep cuz i was up all night playing Fallout 4 and I’m soo sleepy

They added a deathclaw skin for sixer and dio skin for nos which seems peak

Idk about Azure aat
All just that the plants are a bit op

Wanna hear from yalllllllll

So like I was playing Forsaken with my partner earlier tonight and while we were in the lobby after a round, this Bacon player genuinely js starts backshotting me while I was chatting with my partner. And continues DESPITE me showing my obvious discomfort (“bro what the hell”) like 4 times. All that probably because I was wearing an avatar of my persona who’s a femboy (BEFORE y’all try to say some bs, my avatar is NOT that weird or freaky, I’ll put an img in the replies)

They do this for like a few more rounds without saying sorry even though I told them to back off more blatantly, and I know they could see my chat because the leaderboard shows that he can, so he KNOWS I don’t like it but kept going. He also did it to another random player just cuz they had an avatar that sorta looked like a girl.

Eventually we both got our killer rounds (I was Sixer, he was c00lkidd) and although we both did manage to kill each other, I can cope with the fact I landed two more stuns than he did (0), and that my partner managed to kill him too during his killer round so technically it’s 2-1 ☝️🤓
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idk i just find it hella weird that you’d backshot a random person in a random game you’ve NEVER met before prior and have no way of knowing how old they are. This kinda stuff is just WAY too normalised in Roblox communities and I dislike people who treat it as “just some harmless joke”, especially when it’s concerning someone you’ve never known before.

This is also a genuine problem with the Forsaken community when it comes to any female or female looking character (like some of Two Time and Noob’s skins) like come the fuck on y’all, I know it can be hard to talk to women as Roblox players but doesn’t mean you gotta let loose like that, you’re not helping ur case at all 🙏🙏 ik most Forsaken players are kids so you can excuse that they’re js immature but I think that’s js more concerning if it’s genuinely kids doing this sorta shi

Yea I js needed to get my feelings out cuz I genuinely just hated that (also cuz of trauma from past shi), they should add back the anti-backshot system but make it so you’re forced to play as Baby Two Time but with 1 HP and 0 walkspeed

I’ve been starting to main Two Time recently (around level 160-165 on them) and I just mostly suck at helping my team as them and I’m just helplessly done for in chases…

I could just play another character but I like Two Time, I like their skins and the concept of having to sneak up on your enemy is hella fun, and it’s also rlly rewarding when you’re able to land that stab.

I mainly just rely on normal crouchstabs, with trickstabs just being my last resort (which I rarely get to land cuz I’m just doing random movement -w-(

When it comes to lore discussion or criticising the lore, one of the more common points I see is that Noli’s lore sucks. Why? Well, the main argument is that he doesn’t follow his myth counterpart (either Kazdam’s or some other one) where he isn’t a god. Let’s look at what the current lore for Noli is, and I’ll do my best to explain why change isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

Noli’s Current Lore:

Noli is first presented as a showman, running his own one-man show and trying to entertain people while being the focus of attention. While the specifics of the show are unknown, we know it’s the inspiration for several hackers and exploiters.

Eventually, his popularity began to fade, and in a last resort to keep the show going, Noli scammed/stole the Void Crown (it’s never referred to as the Void Star for some reason but it’s unknown whether they’re meant to be the same) from someone and tried to use it. However, the Crown began using Noli instead, consuming his soul and rotting his body until he becomes rag and bones (💀). It was then that the Spectre took notice of Noli and offered him a deal. Noli ended up taking that deal, wanting to stay alive to continue performing on “the stage of a lifetime”.

Some things to note:

1. The Tempest seem to be canon to some extent, as it’s not only a playable map but also is where Noli’s intro and outro cutscenes take place. This can either mean that the Tempest is Noli’s home (further playing into the narcissistic side of him since it’s a place that worships him) or that the Void Cult is still canon to some extent (Noli was said to inspire exploiters, what if some of them were THAT inspired)?
2. The Planet Voss ARG has Noli involved in some capacity (“You have angered Noli!”), though the canonicity of said ARG is dubious.

# Why the lore isn’t so bad:

A lot of people seem to equate Noli changing from a god to becoming whatever he is now (I don’t have a word for that) as inherently bad. That because he’s not the cold emotionless +1000 aura god that so many others made him, he’s already bad. But if you actually look at him without the expectations of 1000 myths, he’s actually quite strong.

**He’s inherently a piece of shit.** One of the main criticisms about Forsaken’s lore is that nearly all the Killers are sympathetic (Slasher, c00lkidd, John Doe. I’ve also seen a few arguments about 1x being like that but no). Noli was the first Killer who’s unapologetically evil and has no excuse for his actions. The ONE possibly sympathetic moment (being corrupted by the Crown) is barely sympathetic when you realise that Noli stole the Crown only to stay relevant and keep people loving him. And it gets weakened further when you see him in the games, where his meme voicelines indicate that he enjoys killing people and doesn’t take the idea of taking a life seriously, actively mocking the Survivors when he kills them. Compare that to Guest 666, who’s more manic and angry because of the Spectre’s manipulation. Noli didn’t need any manipulation, he was already what the Spectre needed.

**He is still powerful in-lore.** He’s stated to wield power way more powerful than any average GUI (including the c00lgui) and in the tier list Vess made about lore strength (while said to not be 100% canon), Noli is shown to be in the Top 3, only losing out to Guest 666 (which is hella iffy but I reckon has something to do with her physical strength) and 1x (who’s just THAT strong).

**He still has affected the world of Roblox.** His show was said to be responsible for inspiring many exploiters and hackers in the future, especially 7n7 and MAYBE c00lkidd (could lore-wise explain why they have similar movesets? 👀). This is a MUCH better way of making a connection as opposed to the old Noli lore (where 7n7 and Noli were friends and 7n7 caused Noli to be corrupted and become super evil). Noli was from a time the exploiters never were there to experience, as Noli is said to be quite ancient, implying that he existed way before the present day in Forsaken (maybe during an 1800s type era, since Noli seems to be from there with the references to Shakespeare in his ability descriptions, and his mask and Crown referencing the Tragedy and Comedy masks, a symbol of the performing arts and theatre), which seems to take place at least around the late 2010s, as Noob and Sixer’s breakup took place in 2017.

# The real problem with Noli’s lore (Hint: It’s something everyone suffers from):

The main issue, like every other character has, is the lack of detail. We don’t know what Noli’s shows were like, we’ve never seen how popular it was to feel the popularity beginning to fade be a big deal. We don’t see how Noli was affected by the Void Crown (outside of Milestone 1) and we don’t see what shenanigans Noli caused to make the Admins hate him, it’s just “they don’t like him”. (This also brings up the question of how the Admins were around if Noli is ancient. Are they immortal? Were they looking like their Classic counterparts as opposed to their modern appearances? Are they even the same Admins like Builderman and Shedletsky? Are Robloxians immortal?)

# Overall:

The problem with Noli’s lore isn’t the lore itself, but how the devs present (or fail to present) said lore. Him being different from his other counterparts isn’t necessarily a bad thing and just seems to be a case of expectations not meeting reality. God Noli was just a fan-established archetype. The original Noli was a NOBODY. Just a glitched account that people took notice of. He never even had the Void Star or the mask, it was added to him to make him have more. He’s essentially a nobody that became a somebody, just like Forsaken’s Noli. Outside of God Noli being powerful, mysterious… he just stays stagnant. “He’s always been above you, and always will be. Don’t bother fighting back.” sounds cool, but it gets boring and especially cheap when everyone and their mothers decides to reuse God Noli. Forsaken’s Noli makes him rise and fall to become who he is now. He’s still dangerous, still cruel, still powerful, while adding more (obsession, egotistical, addiction, attention-seeking). He still has a presence in the lore.

I probably forgot stuff or said things wrong or you want to discuss something I haven’t so let me know in the comments! I’m open to discussions and I’ll be polite about it so long as you are! Thanks for reading! ^_^

When it comes to lore discussion or criticising the lore, one of the more common points I see is that Noli’s lore sucks. Why? Well, the main argument is that he doesn’t follow his myth counterpart (either Kazdam’s or some other one) where he isn’t a god. Let’s look at what the current lore for Noli is, and I’ll do my best to explain why change isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

Noli’s Current Lore:

Noli is first presented as a showman, running his own one-man show and trying to entertain people while being the focus of attention. While the specifics of the show are unknown, we know it’s the inspiration for several hackers and exploiters.

Eventually, his popularity began to fade, and in a last resort to keep the show going, Noli scammed/stole the Void Crown (it’s never referred to as the Void Star for some reason but it’s unknown whether they’re meant to be the same) from someone and tried to use it. However, the Crown began using Noli instead, consuming his soul and rotting his body until he becomes rag and bones (💀). It was then that the Spectre took notice of Noli and offered him a deal. Noli ended up taking that deal, wanting to stay alive to continue performing on “the stage of a lifetime”.

Some things to note:

1. The Tempest seem to be canon to some extent, as it’s not only a playable map but also is where Noli’s intro and outro cutscenes take place. This can either mean that the Tempest is Noli’s home (further playing into the narcissistic side of him since it’s a place that worships him) or that the Void Cult is still canon to some extent (Noli was said to inspire exploiters, what if some of them were THAT inspired)?
2. The Planet Voss ARG has Noli involved in some capacity (“You have angered Noli!”), though the canonicity of said ARG is dubious.

Why the lore isn’t so bad:

A lot of people seem to equate Noli changing from a god to becoming whatever he is now (I don’t have a word for that) as inherently bad. That because he’s not the cold emotionless +1000 aura god that so many others made him, he’s already bad. But if you actually look at him without the expectations of 1000 myths, he’s actually quite strong.

He’s inherently a piece of shit. One of the main criticisms about Forsaken’s lore is that nearly all the Killers are sympathetic (Slasher, c00lkidd, John Doe. I’ve also seen a few arguments about 1x being like that but no). Noli was the first Killer who’s unapologetically evil and has no excuse for his actions. The ONE possibly sympathetic moment (being corrupted by the Crown) is barely sympathetic when you realise that Noli stole the Crown only to stay relevant and keep people loving him. And it gets weakened further when you see him in the games, where his meme voicelines indicate that he enjoys killing people and doesn’t take the idea of taking a life seriously, actively mocking the Survivors when he kills them. Compare that to Guest 666, who’s more manic and angry because of the Spectre’s manipulation. Noli didn’t need any manipulation, he was already what the Spectre needed.

He is still powerful in-lore. He’s stated to wield power way more powerful than any average GUI (including the c00lgui) and in the tier list Vess made about lore strength (while said to not be 100% canon), Noli is shown to be in the Top 3, only losing out to Guest 666 (which is hella iffy but I reckon has something to do with her physical strength) and 1x (who’s just THAT strong).

He still has affected the world of Roblox. His show was said to be responsible for inspiring many exploiters and hackers in the future, especially 7n7 and MAYBE c00lkidd (could lore-wise explain why they have similar movesets? 👀). This is a MUCH better way of making a connection as opposed to the old Noli lore (where 7n7 and Noli were friends and 7n7 caused Noli to be corrupted and become super evil). Noli was from a time the exploiters never were there to experience, as Noli is said to be quite ancient, implying that he existed way before the present day in Forsaken (maybe during an 1800s type era, since Noli seems to be from there with the references to Shakespeare in his ability descriptions, and his mask and Crown referencing the Tragedy and Comedy masks, a symbol of the performing arts and theatre), which seems to take place at least around the late 2010s, as Noob and Sixer’s breakup took place in 2017.

The real problem with Noli’s lore (Hint: It’s something everyone suffers from):

The main issue, like every other character has, is the lack of detail. We don’t know what Noli’s shows were like, we’ve never seen how popular it was to feel the popularity beginning to fade be a big deal. We don’t see how Noli was affected by the Void Crown (outside of Milestone 1) and we don’t see what shenanigans Noli caused to make the Admins hate him, it’s just “they don’t like him”. (This also brings up the question of how the Admins were around if Noli is ancient. Are they immortal? Were they looking like their Classic counterparts as opposed to their modern appearances? Are they even the same Admins like Builderman and Shedletsky? Are Robloxians immortal?)

Overall:

The problem with Noli’s lore isn’t the lore itself, but how the devs present (or fail to present) said lore. Him being different from his other counterparts isn’t necessarily a bad thing and just seems to be a case of expectations not meeting reality. God Noli was just a fan-established archetype. The original Noli was a NOBODY. Just a glitched account that people took notice of. He never even had the Void Star or the mask, it was added to him to make him have more. He’s essentially a nobody that became a somebody, just like Forsaken’s Noli. Outside of God Noli being powerful, mysterious… he just stays stagnant. “He’s always been above you, and always will be. Don’t bother fighting back.” sounds cool, but it gets boring and especially cheap when everyone and their mothers decides to reuse God Noli. Forsaken’s Noli makes him rise and fall to become who he is now. He’s still dangerous, still cruel, still powerful, while adding more (obsession, egotistical, addiction, attention-seeking). He still has a presence in the lore.

I probably forgot stuff or said things wrong or you want to discuss something I haven’t so let me know in the comments! I’m open to discussions and I’ll be polite about it so long as you are! Thanks for reading! ^_^

I see a lot of ppl saying it’s “spyware” or smth cuz I guess they have a link to China? But the only link is that they have Chinese investors, and even then Opera is based in Norway and follows Europe law, which I’m pretty sure would mean they’d get smited if they actually tried to send your data and stuff to China. Maybe because you won’t be anonymous, but I don’t really understand how that is necessarily a bad thing, sorry I js need clarification and more info.

Bloatware i’m not really sure about, isn’t it having lots of base features compared to smth like Chrome a contributing factor to that?

I’m just tryna understand the issues better, I’m not trying to like slam anyone for hating the collab.