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Hi, I have parts of my EEG here. I posted a message earlier regarding insomnia. I am doing home training under supervision, but I feel like we are not on the right track. I do discuss this and then we switch protocols, but I don't know why. First, we did high beta down on CZ due to hyperarousal, then alpha down and high beta down. It felt like there was a wall between me and the outside world, but I did occasionally fall asleep just like that (waking up after 3 hours of sleep). During the day, I felt gloomy and had no motivation for anything. We then switched to C4. Deep relaxation after the first session, but the feeling remained the same afterwards. I think this is partly due to overtraining. Sometimes I also fall asleep easily. I did SMR this weekend and felt terrible, overstimulated, and unable to do anything. I can't do much already because of my insomnia, and now it was even worse. Now I am just doing high beta down on C4 for a while. I am a bit calmer, but also very gloomy again with a heavy head. Poor sleep obviously doesn't help matters. Does anyone have tips on what I can discuss with the trainer? Or what I can do?

u/RemotePerception123 — 2 days ago
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Since I couldn't add photos to an existing message, here is a separate message. Can someone take a look for me at what might help with training for insomnia? I have been training CZ and C4 to lower alpha and beta. Sometimes I fall asleep a bit better, but then I wake up after a few hours. And it didn't work consistently. I might also have trained too much because I had a heavy head and felt foggy. Now we are trying SMR. I think Delta is low. Is it not necessary to train that up?I report everything to my trainer, but it is tiring to keep trying things. And if I notice something positive, it disappears again. He doesn't want to do Delta yet. But surely you can alternate between two protocols? I train from home. Now, after SMR, I don't notice anything yet.

u/RemotePerception123 — 7 days ago
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Neurofeedback overtrained?

I am doing neurofeedback home training under supervision. Now I am sometimes allowed to do a session every day, but after 2 or 3 days I notice that my head is completely foggy and heavy. I am afraid that this is due to the protocol and that neurofeedback isn't working. Or can you also become overtrained?

I am doing it for insomnia. Or well, it is more the fear that I won't be able to sleep that is causing me to fail. I have high beta central and high alpha frontal. We are training this down on CZ and I have done it on C4 for a week now, but I don't feel any better doing so. On CZ, I noticed very occasionally that falling asleep went well because I didn't have those intrusive thoughts like: I have to sleep, am I falling asleep yet, etc. This lasted for two nights and then stopped. Is that normal? Sleeping through the night is not working yet anyway. I also have low delta, but according to the trainer, that is not the cause.

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u/RemotePerception123 — 10 days ago
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Eight years ago, insomnia suddenly developed while on vacation, accompanied by anxiety and panic. We were on a group trip, so there was no time to recover, and we had to get out of bed early every morning. I put a lot of pressure on myself during this time, which I have remained stuck in. I have done a lot of therapy and am now doing neurofeedback. First Neuroptimal, where I experienced positive effects, but after a few sessions, those effects disappeared, and I actually felt worse. Now I am doing home training under supervision. I have high beta activity and high frontal alpha on the CZ. We have been training this down on the CZ for four weeks now, five sessions a week, but there is still no stable effect. I have had maybe four nights where falling asleep went well. I still feel grumpy, frustrated, and afraid that things won't get better. We did SMR once with 4-8, 9-12, and 20-30; that made me feel extremely lethargic and slowed down. Then 4-7, 12-15, 20-30, and that went well during the day and I felt good; no effect on sleep yet, but that was after 3 sessions. This one has been taken off again and now I'm only doing high beta/high alpha downtraining on CZ. Sometimes I feel a bit more stable but also heavy in the head. Mostly sad and feeling like nothing works for me🥲 The scores went down in the beginning but after the SMR they are up again. I don't understand it at all. I have been through a lot of trauma. Does anyone have any tips? I have a raw EEG.

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u/RemotePerception123 — 19 days ago