u/Ronron_bubble

All these girls have vulnerable and easily manipulated profiles.

All these girls have vulnerable and easily manipulated profiles.

Actually, I’m starting to question why HYBE chose to create this group with these kinds of profiles. The more I think about it, the more I feel like several of the members seem to be in situations where they could easily be influenced, manipulated, or pushed into accepting a lot of things simply because they have so much to lose. This is not necessarily a direct accusation, but more of a concern about their emotional, financial, or family-related vulnerability.

For example, Lexie grew up with a single mother after her father left, apparently without paying child support. For her, this group could be a chance to change her life and help her mother financially.

Samara, on the other hand, comes from a more modest background, with parents who work constantly to feed their children. Here too, it’s easy to imagine that this group represents a huge opportunity for her and her family. When you know that your success could help your loved ones escape a difficult situation, you may feel forced to keep going, even if you are suffering or being mistreated.

As for Emily, her family may seem more financially stable, but in Dream Academy, we learned that her parents sent her to live in Los Angeles with a couple they did not really know at first, simply because that couple had “fallen in love with her talent” (weird btw). Personally, I find that worrying. Sending your child to live with adults who were basically strangers in a big city like LA, especially in the entertainment industry, may show a lack of protection or awareness of the risks.

And then there is Sakura. From what we know, she comes from a very rural environment and has not really been going to school since around the age of 8. That makes me wonder what options she would realistically have outside of this group. If her education level or access to normal schooling is limited, then joining this group may become what she sees as her only chance to have a career. But that is exactly what makes her extremely vulnerable, because she may feel like she has no other choice and her parents don’t protect her.

That is what bothers me the most: each of them seems to have a very strong reason to stay in the group, even if the conditions become bad. For some, it is money. For others, it is the pressure to help their family. For others, it may be a lack of parental protection, emotional neglect or the need to be recognized. I am not saying that HYBE necessarily chose these girls only because they are vulnerable, but I still find it troubling that several members have backgrounds that could make them very dependent on this opportunity. When someone feels like a project is their only chance to change their life, they may accept things they should not have to accept.

I sincerely hope the girls are well surrounded, protected and given proper psychological support. Because if they fall into the hands of people with bad intentions, or if the agency does not protect them properly, things could become dangerous very quickly. This group can change their lives, that is true, but exactly because their original lives may not be easier, they might stay even if they are mistreated.

u/Ronron_bubble — 7 days ago

She is really tall compared to the others. She is only 16, and she is going to keep growing.

They are all very short, and I think she’s still going to keep growing. She’s only 16, and she already has to bend over just to be at their height.

u/Ronron_bubble — 7 days ago

What’s the point of a survival show if it’s to choose someone with potential instead of talent?

I really don't get it. what's the point of producing a survival show which had 19 CONTESTANTS if you had to debut the one who still has lots of things to improve and is a minor? Just hold a audition and then push Sakura into the group! They just wasted time and energy of other 18 people!

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u/Ronron_bubble — 9 days ago

If Manon doesn’t come back, Sophia is in trouble because she’s the second-worst dancer

If Manon doesn’t come back, Sophia is in trouble because she’s the second-worst dancer. She dances like a TikToker, and that’s not a compliment. People don’t notice it because she’s often in the back during choreographies, and only comes to the front for the chorus, which is usually easier, like the hand dance in “Picky Up” or the twerking in “Gnarly.”

That being said, she still has an average voice, she has good facial expressions when she dances, and she’s pretty, so dancing is really her only weakness. But that doesn’t change the fact that, without Manon, she seems like the most mediocre member of the group. They all dance better than her, and they all sing better than her too, even Yoonchae and Megan.

And she doesn’t really have much charisma. Even Yoonchae, now that she’s an adult, seems to have much more personality than Sophia. Sophia is average at everything. She isn’t bad, but compared to the rest of the group, it shows. There are even moments when I forget she’s in the group because she’s so forgettable.

And she doesn’t seem to be improving over time. Lara, who wasn’t especially known for dancing has improved a lot so I don’t understand how Sophia managed to regress. Is it because of the slightly “cartoonish,” sharp style of dancing? She looks good with choreographies that have fluid movements, but when it’s more sharp and jerky, it looks messy.

She was the most promising member during Dream Academy, so how did she end up like this?

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u/Ronron_bubble — 9 days ago

Saint Satin = Saint Satan? SS (Schutzstaffel)? Wtf is that?

“SAINT SATINE” ? did they give an explanation for choosing this group name? Prelude was really good, and known by several people, especially since their debut lasted more than a year. Everyone knows that name, they could have kept it, like All Day Project did.

Saint Satine is just weird, between the fact that some people pronounce it “Saint Satan” depending on their accent and alphabet, and the fact that the shortened version of the name is “SS” which is also the name of the "SS" Schutzstaffel/H1tler’s military force.

Lexi is European, how could she not have seen that and warned the team before they chose this name? And Samara is Christian, right? So why allow the use of “Saint” and on top of that add a word that, depending on pronunciation, can be said as “Satan” instead of “Satin”? All of this is just weird.

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u/Ronron_bubble — 10 days ago

There are actually three white/european girls in katseye, so why don’t white people feel represented? And why is Megan’s asian identity accepted while Manon’s black african identity is constantly questioned?

There are actually several Katseye members who have white european ancestry, and I feel like this point is rarely mentioned. This post might not be that important in itself, but I’ve often seen people say that there are no white girls in the group or that europeans, ethnically speaking, were completely excluded. But that’s not really the case.

If we’re talking about origins, Manon and Megan are both mixed with white european ancestry. Daniela is a descendant of european colonizers/immigrants, with maybe a tiny amount of truly latin american genes. So, in reality, there is more white european ancestry in Katseye than some fans claim.

And that’s exactly what made me think about another point: why is Megan automatically considered asian, while Manon is not always recognized as black/african? They actually have a fairly similar type of mixed background: they are both half white, with the other half connected to another continent. And yet Megan’s identity is rarely questioned, while Manon’s is constantly debated.

People often say there are “4 asians” in the group, including Megan, even though she is mixed. And it’s not like her mixed background is invisible: she is intercontinentally mixed, so she clearly looks like a mixed person, just like Manon. (Definition : "intercontinental mixed ancestry” someone whose mixed background comes from two people from different continents, making the mixed heritage more noticeable). But despite that, people don’t deny Megan’s Asian identity. On the other hand, Manon is regularly accused of using her ghanaian culture to appear “more black” (the same thing happens with Daniela too, although in her case it’s a bit more understandable). I feel like it’s mostly Americans who do this, but still, it’s weird. Why do they do that?

What I don’t understand is the double standard. Megan often highlights her Chinese culture, including in very sexualized concepts, like when she wears shortened traditional Chinese dresses or licks a Chinese sword in Picky up. Yet nobody really seems to accuse her of using or staging her culture.

That’s where I really stop understanding some eyekons. They present themselves as anti-racist, but in the way they treat the members of the group, they sometimes reproduce very racist, colorist, or hypocritical behaviors.

u/Ronron_bubble — 11 days ago

As a French person, I believe him until proven otherwise

Some people don’t seem to know who he is. Gossip influencers in France are not the same as in the United States, where they often just chase clout. He is literally the original Gossip Girl of Europe!

As a French person, I know this influencer, Aquababe, and honestly, most of the things he says usually turn out to be true. It’s actually kind of scary because he seems to have “moles” everywhere in Europe feeding him information, sometimes random people, but sometimes even well-known people too.

He has a reputation for knowing things that are extremely private and that probably should never be revealed without the person’s consent. He has even allegedly been beaten up before because he exposed intimate secrets about people. That’s how serious it gets.

He also announced the death of a famous French actress about a month before it was publicly confirmed. He also announced that a well-known French rapper was in a coma after a respiratory problem, without the family’s consent. The rapper passed away the next day, on May 17, which confirmed his information.

The same thing happened with Miss France Iris Mittenaere. He revealed that she had allegedly cheated on several of her partners. Nobody believed him at first, but a few hours later, her exes posted Instagram messages that seemed to confirm Aqababe’s allegations.

More recently, he claimed that a violent argument had broken out between influencers during a trip to Egypt, a group of influencers known as "Team Nasdas". He talked about tensions, violent fights, and one influencer allegedly being hospitalized because of a lack of cocaine there. And guess what? It was later confirmed as true by the influencers involved.

Even more recently, after Aqababe posted information about a fight in the Real Madrid locker room, Tchouaméni himself reportedly contacted Aqababe on Instagram to deny it. He explained that “something happened” but that he “couldn’t say anything,” denied that there was a punch, but admitted that Valverde’s head “hit the floor,” while asking him to “keep it discreet.” Aqababe, who was accused of lying after giving his version, decided to publish screenshots of that conversation. Those messages put Tchouaméni in a very delicate position with Real Madrid. And the fight itself was confirmed: Arbeloa, Real Madrid’s coach, confirmed that there had been “an incident” and said that Valverde had a cut, and that both players had apologized.

People still don’t really know how he gets this information. He seems to know about couples, fights, private drama, behind-the-scenes conflicts, everything.

So I don’t think it’s fair to simply say he’s lying. He definitely doesn’t lie all the time. Of course, he can be wrong sometimes, because at the end of the day he depends on what people tell him. But he has been right enough times that people in France take him seriously.

And people also forget that Manon is Swiss. Switzerland is right next to France, and a lot of Swiss people know Aquababe too. Plus, part of Switzerland is French-speaking. So it’s really not impossible that someone in Switzerland who knows about Manon’s situation contacted Aquababe and gave him information.

That doesn’t automatically mean everything he says is 100% true, but it also means people shouldn’t dismiss it immediately just because he’s a gossip influencer. Personally, I believe him until proven otherwise.

EDIT : To add, the “contract scam” thing he mentions at the beginning about her hair texture apparently means that the agency allegedly wrote in the contract that they were not obligated to find her hairstylists who knew how to do her hair, unlike the other girls. That would mean it was up to her to go to hair salons herself to get her hair done so it would be ready in advance. That might be why she always had either African braids or sew-ins/weaves that she kept in the same style for several weeks.

u/Ronron_bubble — 11 days ago