
Rouge Forge Gyuto - some thoughts
My first time in a passaround!
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Rule #5
Rouge Forge Kiritsuke Gyuto
Steel: N690 core and X40CR13 (fully stainless)
Weight: 195g
Edge length: 203mm
Heel height: 50,2mm
Width at handle: 5,8mm
Width at heel: 4,2mm
Width at middle: 2,4mm
Width at 1cm from tip: 1,4mm
Blacksmith and sharpener: Robin Gagachian
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For quite some time, I’ve seen passarounds happen but haven't actively looked out one to participate in myself, so I was surprised when a different community member on KitchenKnifeForums tagged me in one of Robin's recent knives. I bowed out due to it being a clear right handed biased grind and said “let me know when you do another round with an ambidextrous grind!”.
Fast forward a month or so, I get a nice DM from Robin, letting me know his next round was taking place and that, If I was still interested, I could join the group of people who were curious to check out his latest stainless piece. I gladly said yes and waited for the knife to arrive.
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This is pretty far from a knife that I would traditionally seek out for myself as an owner. Generally, I am a fan of a clean Migaki and Kasumi finishes, as well as thinner grinds. Unpacking this knife threw me into the deep end of the other side of the spectrum.
Robin calls this finish “Brute de forge” or “raw from the forge” which aligns with the first impression. Having some areas of spotty forge marks and some uneven surfaces, it is surprisingly smooth to the touch. It’s clear that a fair amount of care was taken into account when completing the finish and even though its “raw”, there are no bits that I would fear catching on a paper towel.
The hira, spine and choil have all been smoothened out and are soft to the touch, the entire knife feels like a contradiction of the look and the tactile experience. In fact, I would have preferred to have some areas less smoothened out, like where the spine meets the kiritsuke “tip-dip”.
The Bog oak and micarta handle is smooth and oiled, feeling quite comfortable (if a little thin) for those that decide to weild the knife by the handle.
The balance was around 35mm in front of the handle, making it pretty balanced like most 210~ sized knives.
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Performance wise, I struggled a bit with this knife. It looks like it’s a fairly straightforward, flat kiritsuke profile and a grind where it’s bordering on too thick above the shinogi and with an almost completely flat grind beneath it. This leads to a couple of recurring issues with wedging on produce that's more dense than an apple. The shape of the heel also made me feel a little bit awkward when using a pinch grip.
Preparing a large batch of chili, this knife did have some wedging issues on carrots, bell peppers and horizontal cuts on onions, with additional issues while making batonnets of sweet potato and julienned carrots. Specifically on the last two, it felt a bit uncomfortable to use, requiring more pressure than what feels normal to work through wedging, something that you should try to avoid at all times for the the sake of general safety.
In other areas, the knife did quite well, specifically on portioning raw protein it didn’t have any issues and felt quite easy.
In summary; If this knife was presented to me as a Gyuto/Garasuki/Honesuki hybrid, I would have had an easier time arguing on its behalf but as a general gyuto, I fear that the grind leaves more to be desired, especially if you're spending time slicing and dicing dense root vegetables.
I feel like there’s a couple of areas where improvements can be made to make this feel like a much better blade. My highlighted suggestions would be:
- Remove more material above the shinogi, making it an overall thinner build and change to a full convex grind.
- Have a straighter heel shape (closer to a 90 degree heel)
- Have some more pronounced and less smoothened out spine areas, have a more distinct spine-to-tip transition.
This is very, very far from the style of knives I usually find myself gravitating towards and I’m glad I got the chance to try it out in this passaround line. It’s made me challenge myself a little bit in how I think and look at a knife when I'm inspecting it and I have a newfound appreciation for the rest of my lineup!
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Thanks for reading!
Next up; Enjiki Migiwa thoughts and comparison against my stainless Isasmedjan!