Pantalone saying 'paradox' about Dottore's statement + Lizard theory.
Hey guys, its me again. I knew this has been already said in a few comments but I wanted to make an post about it. I have been watching other dubs from the Archonquest and it has been already stated but in the Chinese and Japanese Dub Pantalone says 'paradox' or 'it's a paradox' instead of 'this is impossible.' (As you can hear him saying it.)
First, let's see what is the Definition of Paradox ⬇️
A paradox is a statement, situation, or idea that seems completely self-contradictory or illogical at first, but upon deeper reflection, actually reveals a hidden truth or a valid reality
BUT... this is not the only reason what Paradox means ⬇️
The logic seems correct. But the result is weird, contradictory, or impossible.
...So the 'it's impossible' is a rather simplified wording for Paradox.
Many people (I have seen it for myself) think that Pantalone has declined his offer or rather refused to do it even tho 'impossible' doesn't entirely mean that.
Pantalone just doesn't know HOW to do it.
He thinks Dottore's idea is a paradox because the outcome makes sense but the way how to do it is rather impossible (for Pantalone)
Here is what he said afterwards ⬇️
"As long as your current soul survives, there will be no need to create a new individual. Don't forget, you were the one who approved of the present, situation wherein only one Dottore remains."
"And if you ceased to exist... who would be capable of performing this experiment?"
again...important.
"... who would be capable of performing this experiment?"
I also read on Twitter an interesting theory about Pantalone. (There is a more better version about it so please don't mind my stupid way trying to explain it😭)
The room had 2 chairs and one table (left Pantalone, right Dottore.) On the brown table was a scale ⚖️ The scale had a balance but AFTER their talk Pantalone laid a coin on his own side. Making it unbalanced. The theory is basically that Pantalone owes Dottore after all that time since his entire character is about ➡️ I give you something and you give me something back as a banker. (As I said the original theory explains it better and makes a better analysis. If you find it please link it below)
But why would Pantalone owe Dottore anything? He already placed his soul into the leylines.
If you read the notes you immediately will guess what it is, but I will explain it for people that haven't read it. The Regrator basically owes Dottore his WHOLE life.
-Pantalone is immortal because of Dottore. They literally disected the original for the elixier.
-Dottore made a few elixiers for Pantalone before his death so he can live a little longer.
-Pantalone became a Harbinger because of Dottore with the age of 30.
-Pantalone had liver failure, lung failure, stomach issues, Depression, poisoning, assault wounds, Hemorrhages (when you bleed much I think), chemical burns on his arm, blindness or Vision problems, and even gunshot wounds. Pantalone also doesn't care about his health and body, he is stressed, chain smoker and skips a lot of meals. Everything has been replaced, fixed and improved by Dottore. FOR OVER 300 YEARS BTW.
Pantalone would've died several times if Dottore wasn't there.
(A delulu thought.)
I wonder what will happen in Snezhnaya with Dottore's lab? He probably even has his own apartment with books and notes scattered everywhere. Maybe Pantalone tries finding something and DOES find something. Who knows.
And now another theory that I might find interesting.
The lizard theory.
I know people might think the theory is absurd, but maybe it makes sense.
Dottore is a very confident man. He always thinks he succeeds whatever he does. But why would he randomly mention a new experiment about creating a new body and memories. Did something perhaps make him a little...hesitant? Did he find something out that made him think about the future? Why would dottore even suggest something like that out of the blue?? ... even tho he is literally inside irminsul, achieving his biggest goal.
Because he found out Nahida is going to burn irminsul with the Pyro gnosis.
How?
The lizard.
I know many people think like: 'Bro, it's just a basic a* lizard. No one cares about it.'
At first, I thought so too. I didn't even notice the lizard when Toth held it or listened to Mauvikas and Nahidas Plan... BUT... Blue lizards (the one in the AQ) are NOT inside the desert or near Sumeru at all. I think blue lizards aren't even able to cope with the extreme heat like Red-Tailed Lizards or Desert Lizards. (I googled it. It's true. Blue lizards aren't even in the whole Nation Sumeru)
Tell me, why would genshin choose a non sumerian lizard that has RED EYES appearing right in front of Nahida and Mauvika where they are talking about burning down the tree and killing dottore
"But Dottore can't do that."
Oh yes, he can. He can shapeshift into any humanform...but there is a more interesting part.
In 6.3, Scaramouche and Traveler gained a few Informations about his experiments in the past ⬇️
Archon Quest details reveal that Dottore ran unethical experiments in places like his strongholds where he transmuted human consciousness/souls and put them into animal bodies (or experimented with combining human consciousness with regional wildlife/creatures).
Also
His ultimate plan was to use this perfected technique to upload his own consciousness directly into the Irminsul core and the ley lines, attempting to achieve a form of immortal, omnipresent godhood that exists entirely outside a physical body.
Okay, so we know he found out how to put his mind and soul inside animal bodies. Interesting fact. So... where does it say that he is only gonna use it for irminsul? Mhm?
I think that Dottore already knew because of NodKrai that the others, especially Traveler, are gonna do something about it. He used the Lizard to spy on them and found out they wanted to burn it, burn HIM.
(Also an interesting fact, the conversation where Dottore suggests the 'paradox' idea happened AFTER the Lizard appearance, meaning he found out about it before talking to Pantalone.)
I think Dottore already started making a new plan, a new experiment, but he doesn't have any souls left anymore. He suggested it to Pantalone, but the banker told him literally that he doesn't have the knowledge for it.
But if Pantalone does find a way. He owes Dottore this.
Also, the fact that the Pyro gnosis vanished or perished is a little sus to me. People said it fell down to the segments, but it rather looked like the gnosis just exploded? Idk about this theory, but this is also a unique one.
What do I think?
I think the Archon quest felt unfinished. Yet again, they left clues and weird hints that maybe there is a chance, but also, there are hints and clues it's over forever. I have said it many times before, but I still believe in rebirth Dottore, whether im just delusional or not. But yet again, there were hints with buddishm in 6.6
-Dr. Data's splashart has literally the lotus flower in the background.
-Dottores mask we have never seen resembles the lotus flower. (Not a single segment wore it in the cutscenes)
-His Boss Domain also has a meaning, but im really bad at analysing and explaining, but there are posts about it.
Honestly? I will cope and hope for Dottore's return until ID leaks. If he isn't there then I need sadly accept that it might be Dotto-over.
And before I end this, those are the few last things that make me hopeful before giving up ⬇️
-As I said, Rebirth Dottore/Lotus hints
-Chibi apperance in livestream
-Pantalone can't live without him for long
-Dottore's belongings and stuff inside Snezhnaya
-The Pantalone owes him theory.
-The sudden mention of a new experiment
-That weird a* lizard with RED eyes
-Dottore never dropped a 5 Star trophy. A trophy you get after defeating someone (La Signora)
-Fatui NPC's got no Update. They are still talking about NodKrai and Sandrone