What level realistically could each of the "Major" (Japanese) players from this series make it to in America? Part 1.

I just wanna look at some of the major players shown throughout the series make it to in America and what it would take for them to get there in terms of "realistic" height and weight gain over there careers. So 3rd year players have to be much closer to the necessary size than 1st year players. Also this is assuming modern day and not the 2000's.

Sena Kobayakawa - 5'1 106lbs 1st year. If Sena doesn't grow another inch and is able to double his bench and add 20lbs he's already going to be a D3 All-American. However if Sena is able to grow to 5'5 150lbs by his 3rd year (which he plays at an elite American HS according to the Manga) he has a real shot at the D1 FBS level just due to his unreal speed and elusiveness. Almost every pound he puts on has to be muscle and he won't be a starter his 1st year but by his JR or SR year he could be a real contributor in the backfield as well as a star return specialist from year 1. After seeing Duece Vaughn make it to the league there's a real shot he could make it to the NFL or atleast the UFL if he doesn't want to go back home and be a Star of the X-League where he would probably make pretty great money considering the bidding war for an NFL caliber player who doesn't have to use one of your import spots.

Ryokan Kurita - 6'5 320lbs 2nd year. If he doesn't change anything he should be able to play for a JuCo team but running a 6.5 40yd dash is terrible, I've seen peewee football lineman faster than that and being 6'5 it makes it a bit tough to keep him at C and being that slow makes him almost useless on defense. Now if he takes his SR year not playing football (don't forget deimon doesn't allow 3rd years to play) and loses 40lbs and drops his 40 time under 6 seconds then he could make it to the D2 level. 6'5 280 running a 5.95 40 he could make it to the D2 level off of size, strength and potential alone. You might see an FCS school throw him an offer but he's still very slow and still probably too tall to play C so he'll have to learn OT or G where he will be expected to be much more mobile and have much better footwork. He's also not THAT strong only benching 350lbs

Gen "Musashi" Takekura - 5'9 170lbs 2nd year. He's a D1 player already. We've never seen him miss and he's hitting from 60yds in game against a live rush. Ideally he's add a bit more strength over the next year or so, so he can get it over the taller rushers in college and still hit from 60 but that's something a college strength staff and coaching can help with

Taro "Monta" Raimon - 5'1 112lbs 1st year. Even if we give him the same growth spurt we hoped for Sena to get and make him 5'5 155lbs he's still not making it in college at that size while running a 5.0 40yd dash. If and only if he can get that down to below a 4.7 (which is a huge increase in speed) and become an elite route runner which he just simply isn't currently he might be able to walk onto a D3 JuCo but he won't play much even at the lowest levels of the sport.

Yoichi Hiruma - 5'9 147lbs 2nd year. At this size he'll struggle to gain much attention especially without a SR year of film but if he grows an inch or two and ends up around 5'10-5'11 running around a 5 second 40 with as smart of a player he is he could receive some D2 interest but he's more likely to accept a spot at a high academic or extremely competitive D3 school. He's another guy who would be best off going the JuCo route.

The other Deimon players have zero shot at playing in the USA.

Most of these guys I'm being relatively generous to but also, there are enough colleges out here that are struggling to field rosters and are just in it for the tuition boost from having extra bodies on campus that ANYONE with an ounce of experience can play for them.

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u/Short_Plate4111 — 9 days ago

What do y'all consider Agon's Best position?

I know as well as anyone that Agon is a "Utility player" and that they will use him anywhere on the field and I love that and find it super fascinating but where do you think they use him the most?

On defense he makes the Japan National team as a starting Weakside Line Backer, while defense is definitely able to be more versatile Shinryuji probably use him a lot like Isiah Simmons out of Clemson or Jabrill Peppers coming out of Michigan as multifacited players who line up where the defense needs but at the end of the day they were both listed and treated going to the next level as Strong Safety's which is where I feel Agon best fits being able to roam into the box for run defense, match him up with a TE slot receiver (which he's about the size of) in man or stay over the top in cover 2.

On offense, he didn't play for team Japan. This where I'm a little more conflicted on where and how to use him, if you have a guy who's great at everything you have to pick something for him not to do because he can't do it all at once. Having them run something like the Single Wing where (The IRL dragon Fly) might be the best bet so you can allow him to pass run and catch the only issue is every time he throws the ball is one less time that he can catch or run it and one less time Unsie can have the ball. If I were coaching his team in HS I would run the single wing with him their as my Fullback and Unsie as my Tailback. If i was a college coach who had to run something more modern I'd use him primarily in the slot and run lots of jet sweeps, screens and occasionally motion him into the backfield while also having a few wildcat sets for him and running plays like the ones Kansas ran for Jason Bean a few years ago and like what Princeton ran in 2013 with their 3QB set

PS: While doing this I have been rewatching the game between Deimon and Shinriyuji and Ikkyu has Monta in a Straight Jacket. Completely in prison even tho Monta gets a couple of receptions at the end idk if I've ever seen someone so locked up

Edit: Jabrill Peppers from Michigan not Jullius Peppers

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u/Short_Plate4111 — 10 days ago

How do you guys rank the (Japanese) QB's and the tiers they fall into?

Best of The Best

  1. Kid (Seibu Wild Gunmen)

  2. Hiruma (Deimon Devil Bats)

Tier Gap -Great QB's-

  1. Karin (Tiekoku Alexanders)

  2. Unsie Kongo (Naga)

  3. Ichiro Takami (Ojo White Knights)

Tier Gap -Average QB's-

  1. Kiminari Haroa (Taiyo Sphinx)

  2. Marco (Hakashu Dinosaurs)

Tier Gap -Below Average QB (Usually a defender)-

  1. Osamu Kobanzame (Kyoshin Poseidon)

  2. Rui Habashira (Zokugaku Chameleons)

  3. Sasuke Kanagushi (Scorpions)

Tier Gap - Bad QB

  1. Daisuke Atsumi (Yuhii Guts)

  2. Kauru Hatsujo (Koigahama Cupids)

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u/Short_Plate4111 — 11 days ago

Kengo Mizumachi isn't even all that tall

The show made him seem like he was huge and so much taller than anyone else in the series or atleast on Deimon but he's just straight up not.

He's 193cm or ~6'4 so that is a pretty tall dude especially for a 16 year old in Japan don't get me wrong but there are a plethora of guys around his height.

Kurita amd Otowara is 195cm (~6'5), Ichiro Takami is 192cm (6'3.5),Banba is 198cm (6'6), Gao is 200cm (6'7), and even his teammates Ohira and Onishi who are 205cm 204cm (6'8/6'9). Like I feel like he should be the peak height or atleast 2meters tall

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u/Short_Plate4111 — 16 days ago