u/ShreddlyBones

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Coincidence vs Significance

I wanted to do a longer thing on this, but I'll just rough draft it here before I get distracted and forget again.

I'm currently gearing up to go BOTG for a summer search and I wanted to mention how overwhelming this battle (title) can be. I'm locked in place. I have three very convincing solutions for the crux of this thing - which I believe is the line: "Return her face to find the place". Given that he has publicly stated that there are multiple ways to solve this, I have chosen to approach the riddle in such a way that any solution I come up with must align with an alternative, independant solution without-to the best of my ability-introducing fabricated bias.

The problem is that I now have three solutions that fit this critera well and, crucially, they all lead to wildly different corners of the American West. The main issue is the battle between coincidence and significance.

As a baseline example, let's look at Blacktail Deer Creek. Obviously a very important place for Justin. So, do we allow any Deer Creek to be a clue? Preposterous. There are far too many such names, which is logical-deer live all over the place. So then, variations that allow for specificity: Blacktail? Black? Dark? Other languages? Myths and legends? I think we also need to consider the duality of a thing as well- it's opposite, reflection, so: Whitetail? White? It's predator? It's ancestors?

This type of (over?) analysis can be applied to literally anything in Beyond the Map's Edge.

I think it is unrealistic to expect a massive convergence of such general clues, but I also think that a density of relevance of such clues will be a significant factor for the eventual correct solution. So then, what would that look like? There simply isn't enough physical space in a given area to cram in the names of things that would trigger a searcher to say: "Yep. That's it." In a way that would be wholly and completely Justin Posey.

Therefore, I think that a reasonable approach to this thing would be to focus the erratica. The weird, the obtuse, the esoteric. The references that come out of the blue. The stuff on the edge. I think a local density of that information has a chance.

This thing is an absolute labyrinth of potential relevance. It amazes me how connected everything is; follow the etymology of things back to the PIE roots and you'll be shaking your head in wonder. The syncretism of mythology over time is no different. Truly remarkable. It's also truly maddening when trying to sift Mr. Posey's story through the seive of it all. There is a way. But what that way is still eludes me...

What do y'all think? What have you found that simply had to be relevant that ended up being coincidence?

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u/ShreddlyBones — 2 days ago

At the Seeker's Summit, Justin stated that the clues are " ...not meant to convey a great distance,".

We need to try and wrench on this statement for some clarification. If we word it the right way, I'll bet he'll give up some more info.

With what respect for scale is he using the adjective 'great'?

A local meridian can be extended to a Great Circle, for instance, which would encompass the circumference of Earth. The Great Unconformity guards 1.2 BILLION years of time. What kind of 'great' are we talking about?

Also: Does he include both the search phase and the retrieval phase of this hunt within that statement?

Is he intentionally allowing room to breathe for the eventual finder at the end of this thing? It would fit with his: "...you will have time..." statement from Dillon...

Put 'em in the queue, please!

ALSO: Keep your eyes peeled for Nate.

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Stay safe out there.

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u/ShreddlyBones — 20 days ago
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I find that stretching the legs and getting the blood moving can be very helpful for the mind.

Take a step back, do other things - "clear the cache". Better yet, go outside! Get your gear and get after it. Try to find cracks in your own hypotheses... BTME BOTG 2026!

Enjoy the journey!

P.S. Take pics!

u/ShreddlyBones — 21 days ago