u/Silver_Rose27

6.6 might just be the start

I've been seeing almost everyone being (understandably) really upset but after 6.6, I actually have more hope.

They spent so much effort on everything related to him, from lore to design, animations, voice etc.

If they really just wanted to kill him off permanently, they could've done so much earlier and just ignored any backstory writing. But no, instead they introduce even more.

There are already many unresolved questions and now they add things like losing his compassion at age 8 specifically.

Not only that, there's also his idea for revival with Pantalone.

And after so long, we still have no clear picture on his motive. Why was he chased away the first time? Why exactly do he and Pantalone dislike fate so much? Just because they don't like feeling controlled? Or is it something deeper?

Wanderer mentions wanting to investigate Dottore's motives in the end talk with Nahida. Which means there will be more.

I understand that Dottore had to be "cleansed" by fire as his crimes were shown much more upfront and some had more universal impact on Teyvat than other morally questionable playable characters.

They constantly talked about time being able to erase hatred and Dottore mentioned people tend to stick to first impressions, a bit like foreshadowing.

They also mentioned the importance of the number 3 compared to 2, meanwhile his soul was only split into two parts.

They also specifically mentioned he was human and this entire quest was connected to Nicole who is an angel and talks about wanting to help every human. In her trailer they even hint at understanding a demon king's motives. Even if Dottore wasn't meant by this, it would still fit him.

There was also the highlighted importance of bad events compared to good ones. And, of course, the entire fate system being gone now.

Dottore also seems to have wanted the quest's events to happen and Pantalone talks about having planned every single step to a detail.

I think they're playing the long game with him, I mean they have already this entire time.

Still, all in all, I'd say despite points of hope, it's better to be prepared and have alternative things/ sources of entertainment to focus on. I'll wait for Snezhnaya and see what happens then. The idea of reviving someone by transfering memories is nothing new in Hoyoverse and would fit the preservation/ remembrance aspect of Snezhnaya. And in Collei's dream, even though the characters switched their roles, they were still themselves fundamentally (HYV has also mentioned characters staying themselves at other times). Also, they have a tendency to explain every (important) villain's motives or even redeem them (even if people don't like it). They even ended up portraying the Honkai itself in a good light.

Just my opinion, Idk if it all makes sense but hope is there for me.

And there are many more points I could probably mention.

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u/Silver_Rose27 — 1 day ago
▲ 13 r/FatuiHQ

Fatui means fools but fools aren't necessarily stupid ☝️

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Origin: Everlasting Flames, Honkai Impact 3rd

u/Silver_Rose27 — 2 days ago

6.6 release date

Leaks mentioned!

>!The version drops on May 20th or 520. This is an unofficial valentine's day in China because 520 appareantly sounds like "I love you".!<

>!Kinda ironic considering what is happening (or is it?? Vsauce music)!<

>!Also, have there been any leaks concerning Nicole in the AQ so far? Would be odd if she doesn't appear. !<

>!And was it Dottore's plan all along? And why like this?!<

>!(Tbh maybe I should just be patient (pun intended cuz doctor (...)))!<

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u/Silver_Rose27 — 4 days ago

"I'll never yield to fate" - a wise person

>!He'll be playable!<

>!We'll get his story in detail!<

>!He'll get 69420 animations!<

>!He'll get HYV dottorillions of dollars!<

>!He'll be the anime's protagonist, trust!<

>!He'll stay in Genshin permanently!<

>!He'll keep his personality, evil or not!<

>!He'll find peace and happiness!<

>!No one can stop the cope unless they explicitly say it's over, not just in the story or implied!<

>!Last time it all hung by the single thread of a flickering end screen and a few quotes. Hoyoverse has made dead characters playable (Honkai Impact flame chasers, Durin, Qiqi, Sandrone in the future etc.) and there's unadressed questions and so much investment into him. Dottore Impact 🙏 lol!<

u/Silver_Rose27 — 4 days ago

If you had to choose, do you think 6.6 will make us happy or disappoint us? (in general)

I know it's likely not going to be black and white like that. But which side you're more inclined towards right now.

Also wondering if I'll look at the preloads to prepare myself or not..

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u/Silver_Rose27 — 9 days ago

Once he's playable/ his story gets explored...

How do you think those that hate him will react?

And I mean those that are really vocal about their hate, like the ones that always say "I hope he gets killed off/ he won't become playable" everytime he's mentioned or the ones that harrass his fans.

Important note: It's okay to hate a character or to even want them gone as long as no real people get hurt. The hate might get annoying but they're of course also allowed to express it (as long as it's not harrassment).

I just wonder how it will go. Especially since we can anticipate his fanbase will grow once it's his time.

Will they keep hating him? Or will some even suddenly turn into his fans? (Because there are those that hate him and don't want him playable yet still like other really antagonistic characters in the Hoyoverse and say they're justified.)

And how will we react then?

I'm very convinced he will be playable because of several factors including: time he's been relevant, budget spent on him, model/ VA choice, leaks, his story only getting shown in hints but no full elaboration as if it's saved for later etc.

So when he does eventually become playable or have a tragic story, it won't really be something no one could've anticipated and it's not the first time they've written a villain like this. I'd just find it hypocritical if those that always say they hope he never becomes playable suddenly become his fans. Of course they're allowed to, but for his long-time fans it might get annoying so I wonder how we'll react to it. The wait's been really long and constantly hearing hate does have it's build-up.

But, it might also not happen. Or he might not become playable at all which I'd find really strange for reasons mentioned (and HYV has released villains before too). If that's the case, shame is on me.

So what do you think it'll be like? How will we react?

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u/Silver_Rose27 — 10 days ago

Can Dottore dream?

I just had an idea: What if Dottore never had the ability to dream? It might explain why he's so radical (no hope), doesn't understand others, sees people like machines and so on.

Got the idea from an artwork and wrote a comment with more points about it.

Because why wouldn't Nahida communicate with or guide him through dreams when he was younger? (Or maybe she did but to no avail.)

(Also the phantoms he summons in battle which have a hollow skull like him and a hollow heart, might symbolize lack of dreams (not lack of ambition though).)

And the way he might be able to handle forbidden knowledge because he can see through reason. If he's free of dreams/ illusions maybe this can happen? (Cue to overcoming fate via unconsciousness?)

And because he wants to create a world of endless possibilities. But this would also be achievable through dreams without the repercussions in real life. So what if he wanted that because otherwise he can't experience it?

Just a rather superficial theory though. Sorry for my ramblings 😅

Edit:

Also thought of the line "those who dream of dreaming" in reference to Khaenri'ah. Dottore is not Khaenri'ahn but has close connections to it.

All in all, just an idea though not a deep theory, so faults are possible ofc.

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u/Silver_Rose27 — 11 days ago

The symbolism of the number two

Just some things I'm thinking of.

Dottore is the second of the Harbingers so I wanted to look into the symbolism around that number and how it presents in Dottore.

There are several aspects of him that come to mind:

  • he has two bosses, one is themed around the light-realm/ divinity, the other is abyssal (In a way this reminds me of the imaginary and the quantum elements. The imaginary tree contains worlds which fade with time and fall into the sea of quanta. The sea of quanta meanwhile tries to drown the tree, a bit like how abyssal Dottore is responsible for Irminsul's destruction. And the imaginary tree wants to absorb the sea of quanta.)

  • Dottore's main color is cyan/ blue, but sometimes it's contrasted with red, a color on the opposite side of the color spectrum

  • he is often presented with black and white colors (Webttore's and Moonttore's masks especially)

  • he is called doctor but it's an ironic title, both in how he never got an official degree for it and the way he treats people (even if he wants to ascend humanity)

  • the way he is at conflict with himself (wants family but also thinks only weaklings rely on each other, values scholarly rigor but also has a rather chaotic way of doing things, hates humanity being controlled by gods but wants to become a god and uses people like resources, talks about wanting to show respect to the god of wisdom but his general actions say otherwise (and she calls out his hypocrisy being built on absolute confidence), acts selfishly but there are hints that he hates himself, highly intelligent but not socially smart etc.)

All in all, Dottore has dualistic themes.

In numerology, the number 2 allegedly stands for balance, harmony and is generally a good number (though I can't really see that with him). The number is appareantly also used in certain Chinese slang to mean foolish (would fit for Fatui).

Also, I kind of think of the way Dottore is very tech-themed and binary only has two states: True/ False or 1/ 0.

But all in all, I think this kind of dualistic symbolism fits together with how he doesn't really fit anywhere seemingly, how he's even at odds with himself and his different life stages.

Maybe there's more things that can be mentioned here?

(There's also the numbers 3 and 4 that he has connections to.)

And I wonder how it came to this conflict/ dualism in his lore. Is it simply being naturally different from others? Or is it something like a curse?

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u/Silver_Rose27 — 12 days ago

Let's share some moments from over the time we've known him

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> "Millions of years? To what end?"

> "I wonder if you don't understand humans all that well. They are very pragmatic creatures who understand only that which they can perceive with their senses."

> "If I had you sit here for a week, I imagine people might sympathize. But if I left you here for a hundred, a thousand, or ten thousand years...The sheer size of that number would cause it to lose all meaning to them. They would not have the capacity to comprehend your suffering, and thus they could not empathize."

Dottore has been in the game (as a character) for over 3 years now. And in lore, he's been around since 2018, that's 7-8 years now, almost a decade!

The wait for his character is definitely long and he's also a special character. And now it seems his story is approaching it's long awaited climax, even if he's not playable yet and 6.6 is only the beginning of his story exploration perhaps.

With that in mind, I wanted to ask you to share some things from over the years of waiting, whether it's memes, art, theories, your experiences or anything else :)

I think remembering it will make his story feel all the more fulfilling once we get there.

For example, I still remember when Winter Night's Lazzo came out and Dottore's new design got shown for the first time.

Or when we were still wondering whether Zandik was him.

Or when people thought he was the NPC in the air ship from the Fontaine trailer.

And even just encountering him the first time in the manga or Tartaglia's mention of him in the story quest.

So feel free to share!

u/Silver_Rose27 — 13 days ago

(This is NOT a serious post lol)

We've been finding similarities between Dottore and other characters so often now, one cannot help but wonder: Is it a coincidence? What were the devs thinking? Was Dottore among us all along?

First of all, look at him. He looks like the heart of Irminsul, like a leyline, the very network that flows through Teyvat and the very primordial power we see everywhere: be it waypoints, statues or even Traveler's spaceship. Why is that?

Well, which character was one of the first to be introduced in the Genshin story? Dottore. Which character knows more about Teyvat than almost any other character? Dottore. Which character has a similar name to the first member of the genius society from Star Rail that managed to build a super computer that can calculate almost anything? DOTTORE.

Dottore is obviously the creator of Teyvat. Teyvat is his simulation, his experiment. Need more evidence? Look at the Herrscher of Truth from Honkai Impact: Bronya, Mihoyo's CEO herself and in turn the owner of Genshin Impact. She has mech themes, Dottore has mech themes. She is blue, Dottore is blue. There is no coincidence. Bronya is a Dottore expy.

And we even have characters reveal that Dottore has created segments to better wander across the land and preserve his different perspectives. They're dead you say? Wrong.

His segments are everywhere. Not just so-called "Sigewinne", "Mualani", "Lohen" - No.

Traveler, Paimon, the Heavenly Principles, the pigeons on Mondstadt's bridge, even the bridge itself - They're all Dottore.

And it makes sense: As a true scholar, he would obviously want to gain all perspectives. He has always respected all possibilities after all, his own words.

I bet even the Dottore we see in-game is Dottore.

Have you ever seen him in the same room as Dottore? Yes? Well, that's obviously because they're segments. Q.E.D.

And since Teyvat is his experiment: On which computer does Teyvat run? On yours. And who is the one testing outcomes (aka "playing the game") and controlling the subjects (the other Dottores)? YOU.

YOU ARE DOTTORE.

And that means he's been playable all along. Maybe the real Dottore has been us the entire time.

Dottore is a peerless gem.

Dottore is an unrivaled genius.

Dottore is an inimitable beauty.

Everything is Dottore.

>!🥴!<

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u/Silver_Rose27 — 17 days ago