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It's already been debunked that MC Eiht, Ryder's voice actor, was actually cool with R* via Twitter posts and interview about his character. So therefore, the rumors of him having disputes with R* should been put to rest now. Ryder was always meant to be a traitor since the very beginning, and guess what? That actually makes his betrayal even WORSE!

Because the writers had all the free time to flesh out Ryder's characters, give him lucid motivation, and give him a cool battle like they did all of that with Big Smoke. But instead, they relegated Ryder to a massively unimportant minion who is barely even mentioned, killed him off in an anticlimactic manner similar to a random vigilante target, and even contrived an Ass Pull of having Cesar out of nowhere telling CJ that Ryder tried to bang Kendl, with no hints or even elaboration on Cesar's part. Not to mention Sweet doesn't even know Ryder betrayed him or even acknowledges his existence once he is free from prison, as if he never even met a person named Ryder in his life. It makes his badly written betrayal look 10 times worse. A shame they just turned him into such an unimportant character all of a sudden.

Seriously, there are too many fans of Lance Vance who want to blame Tommy for his treatment of Lance, and I'm here to debunk everything you all will say to make Lance seem innocent and Tommy the bully.

"Tommy treated Lance like shit since Day 1"

Since when? I've replayed the storyline of GTA Vice City and Tommy seemed to treat Lance pretty normal to me. During their encounters, he simply asked Lance if he was any use to use a gun, he told Lance to let him handle Diaz and not jump the gun early, and he was pretty much neutral towards him the rest of the way. Hell at one phone call, Tommy even told Lance that if Tommy himself screwed up, Lance wa free to call him out on it I don't see where Tommy actually treated Lance like shit in. Can you elaborate?

"Tommy yelled at Lance in "Deathrow""

Because Lance screwed up Tommy's meticulous plan to execute Diaz because he was too hellbent on revenge to wait patiently and thought he could take on Diaz on his own.

"Tommy was being selfish during that moment for trying to wait instead of helping Lance killing Diaz right away"

You dumbasses do know that had Tommy did that, that would get him (and Lance) shredded to pieces by Diaz's men, right? Seriously, how the fuck could that be considered selfish?!

"Tommy yelled at Lance in "Bar Brawl""

Because Lance was sitting down drinking instead of doing his job. He told Tommy he could handle the bar that refused payment and didn't even budge a single inch off his chair. You telling me right there Tommy didn't have a right to chastise him during that moment?

"Tommy was being selfish here because he wanted it done by his time instead of trusting Lance to do it whenever he wants his time to do"

It's not called selfishness. It's called getting results. If you got a partner and a job is very urgent, it's imperative that you DO the work right away. In this instance, protection rackets require immediate enforcement for successful cash flow, therefore if the job wasn't done right away, the DBP would have stolen the Vercetti territory and thus the business would have been permanently lost. So there was no option to wait around. Seriously, I truly believe these fans are this delusional.

Here's another thing you delusional Lance Vance fans miss: VIC, Lance's own brother, was exactly the same way towards Lance for the exact same reasons, hell Vic actually threatened to SHOOT Lance if he didn't get off his ass to help him with a task. Now before you go "Ah, Vic had every right to be that way towards Lance since he was screwing up there", guess what! Tommy did the same thing to Lance whenever the latter screwed up there, and yet for some reason, Vic gets a pass while Tommy is blamed for it. Hell Lance even told Tommy over the phone that him criticizing him was the exact same way Vic did to him.

Here's the reality: Lance was a lazy, selfish, childish, whiny parasite who had a good history of starting trouble, and before you all be like "Lance loved his brother", well yes, that is true. But answer this question for me: Did Lance actually respect his brother? From what we all saw in GTA Vice City Stories (such as leaving Vic to deal with the cops while Lance and Forbes got off safely to drug traffic, convincing Vic to steal coke that (unbeknownst to him) actually belonged to the Mendez brothers, sat on his ass in his apartment to let Vic handle the empire buildings on his own, spitefully threw the coke in the ocean after Vic caught him using all for himself, and shows no empathy towards Vic when the love of his life passed away), it's clear Lance had no respect for his brother at all. Otherwise, he wouldn't keep mooching off of him. Lance thought he would try the same this to Tommy, only learning the hard way that Tommy was not Vic. So that's why he betrayed Tommy. Because his ego thought he could get away with living off of someone else, but once he found out Tommy is no doormat he could wipe his shoes on, he realized that he couldn't take it anymore. In the end, Lance was really his own worst enemy, no matter how many of you delusional fans who want to defend him want to believe.