u/Sketheteretaavan

“I know your reputation as a great collector of stories and recorder of events.” Kvothe’s eyes became hard as flint, sharp as broken glass. “That said, do not presume to change a word of what I say. If I seem to wander, if I seem to stray, remember that true stories seldom take the straightest way.”

“I know your reputation as a great collector of stories and recorder of events.” Kvothe’s eyes became hard as flint, sharp as broken glass. “That said, do not presume to change a word of what I say. If I seem to wander, if I seem to stray, remember that true stories seldom take the straightest way.”

Need to present some background first for this theory. Luckily there's a convenient video for this by Joseph Campbell, link should be time stamped

@28:17

>The sacred books of India, the fundamental sacred books are known as the vedas. The word veda is from a Sanskrit root vid that means knowledge. And the vedas are manifestations of knowledge. And the knowledge is a specific kind of knowledge. It's called sruti and sruti means heard.

>The Rishis or saints were people who did not invent the poems, the hymns of the vedas. The vedas are collections of hymns. They heard them just as anyone who listens to the muse will hear. You can write either out of your own intention or out of inspiration. There is such a thing. It comes up and talks. And those who have heard deeply the rhythms and hymns and words of the gods can recite those hymns in such a way that the gods will be attracted.

Alright. So we've got a Listener, Sage Kote aka Reshi and he's at the Waystone reciting a hymn to Devan that needs to be precise, he insists that Chronicler can't change a word of what he says. In the books, it's Bast who explains how this little trick works. It's Bast who explains the importance of the masks we wear

>Chronicler frowned. “Is that the one where the king sells his crown to an orphan boy?”

>Bast nodded. “And the boy becomes a better king than the original. The goosegirl dresses like a countess and everyone is stunned by her grace and charm.” He hesitated, struggling to find the words he wanted. “You see, there’s a fundamental connection between seeming and being. Every Fae child knows this, but you mortals never seem to see. We understand how dangerous a mask can be. We all become what we pretend to be.”

And that's what happened to Kvothe. Kvothe became the mask he wore. Kvothe became Kote, the story that he was telling himself. Kvothe was seen as an innkeeper... but now he's an innkeeper, seen.

>“That’s only the smallest piece of it,” Bast said. “The truth is deeper than that. It’s…” Bast floundered for a moment. “It’s like everyone tells a story about themselves inside their own head. Always. All the time. That story makes you what you are. We build ourselves out of that story.”

>Frowning, Chronicler opened his mouth, but Bast held up a hand to stop him. “No, listen. I’ve got it now. You meet a girl: shy, unassuming. If you tell her she’s beautiful, she’ll think you’re sweet, but she won’t believe you. She knows that beauty lies in your beholding.” Bast gave a grudging shrug. “And sometimes that’s enough.”

>His eyes brightened. “But there’s a better way. You show her she is beautiful. You make mirrors of your eyes, prayers of your hands against her body. It is hard, very hard, but when she truly believes you…” Bast gestured excitedly. “Suddenly the story she tells herself in her own head changes. She transforms. She isn’t seen as beautiful. She is beautiful, seen.”

>“What the hell is that supposed to mean?” Chronicler snapped. “You’re just spouting nonsense now.”

>“I’m spouting too much sense for you to understand,” Bast said testily. “But you’re close enough to see my point. Think of what he said today. People saw him as a hero, and he played the part. He wore it like a mask but eventually he believed it. It became the truth. But now…” he trailed off.

>“Now people see him as an innkeeper,” Chronicler said.

>“No,” Bast said softly. “People saw him as an innkeeper a year ago. He took off the mask when they walked out the door. Now he sees himself as an innkeeper, and a failed innkeeper at that. You saw what he was like when Cob and the rest came in tonight. You saw that thin shadow of a man behind the bar tonight. It used to be an act….”

So roll all of that into one. We've got a Listener, a Magician, a Reshi reciting a hymn to Chronicler. Why do magicians recite hymns in a specific way? Why can't Devan change a single word that Kvothe says?

>Kvothe held up a hand to keep Chronicler from writing, and spoke, “I’ve never told this story before, and I doubt I’ll ever tell it again.” Kvothe leaned forward in his chair. “Before we begin, you must remember that I am of the Edema Ruh. We were telling stories before Caluptena burned. Before there were books to write in. Before there was music to play. When the first fire kindled, we Ruh were there spinning stories in the circle of its flickering light.”

>Kvothe nodded to the scribe. “I know your reputation as a great collector of stories and recorder of events.” Kvothe’s eyes became hard as flint, sharp as broken glass. “That said, do not presume to change a word of what I say. If I seem to wander, if I seem to stray, remember that true stories seldom take the straightest way.”

The hymn needs to be precise in order to attract the god. The hymn has to be proper in order for the magician to invoke the god. Kvothe doesn't want to be seen as a hero. He wants to be the hero, seen.

>“To ash all things return, so too this flesh will burn. But I am Tehlu. Son of myself. Father of myself. I was before, and I will be after. If I am a sacrifice then it is to myself alone. And if I am needed and called in the proper ways then I will come again to judge and punish.”

u/Sketheteretaavan — 1 day ago

The Eolian lay at the heart of Imre, its front doors facing out onto the city’s central cobblestone courtyard. There were benches, a few flowering trees, and a marble fountain misting water over a statue of a satyr chasing a group of half-clothed nymphs whose attempt at flight seemed token at best.

Came across some really neat stuff while I was reading about horned deities. As it turns out, there's some key differences between a Faun and a Satyr. Turns out Bast is a Faun, not a Satyr

>In Greek mythology, a satyr, also known as a silenus or silenos and sileni (plural), is a male nature spirit with ears and a tail resembling those of a horse, as well as a permanent, exaggerated erection. Early artistic representations sometimes include horse-like legs, but, by the sixth century BC, they were more often represented with human legs. Comically hideous, they have mane-like hair, bestial faces, and snub noses and they always are shown naked. Satyrs were characterized by their ribaldry and were known as lovers of wine, music, dancing, and women.

>Over the course of Greek history, satyrs gradually became portrayed as more human and less bestial. They also began to acquire goat-like characteristics in some depictions as a result of conflation with the Pans, plural forms of the god Pan with the legs and horns of goats. The Romans identified satyrs with their native nature spirits, fauns. Eventually the distinction between the two was lost entirely.

Fauns are the ones that have the goat legs and play flute, also called genii, place spirits

>Originally fauns of Roman mythology were ghosts (genii) of rustic places, lesser versions of their chief, the god Faunus. Before their conflation with Greek satyrs, they and Faunus were represented as naked men (e.g. the Barberini Faun). Later fauns became copies of the satyrs of Greek mythology, who themselves were originally shown as part-horse rather than part-goat.

and yes, the thread connects to the Islamic jinn, but in this case genii is referencing genius loci, which is more of a guardian angel. Still, figured I'd mention the jinn connection since our story does feature an emphasis on ever-burning lamps...

But back to Fauns vs Satyrs. The distinction between them was lost, as was the distinction with the god Faunus with Pan

>In ancient Roman religion and myth, Faunus [ˈfau̯nʊs] was the rustic god of the forest, plains and fields; when he made cattle fertile, he was called Inuus. He came to be equated in literature with the Greek god Pan, after which Romans depicted him as a horned god.

And Inuus is where things get interesting

>He is called Inuus, however, in Latin, Πάν (Pan) in Greek; also Ἐφιάλτης (Ephialtes), in Latin Incubus; likewise Faunus, and Fatuus, Fatuclus. He is called Inuus, however, from going around having sex everywhere with all the animals, hence he is also called Incubus.

Which tracks with the Satyr folklore

>the name 'satyr' is sometimes derogatorily applied to a "brutish or lustful man". The term satyriasis refers to a medical condition in males characterized by excessive sexual desire

So a Satyr/Silenos equates to an Incubus... which brings to mind the story of Perial's nighttime visit from "Tehlu". It had been no normal dream...

>An incubus (pl. incubi) is a male demon who is described in various folklore as appearing in the dreams of female humans in order to seduce them. Repeated interactions between an incubus and a woman will lead to sexual activity, a bond forming between them, and ultimately sexual intercourse

But wait!! There's more. Satyrs were "known as lovers of wine, music, dancing, and women", but there's some other specific folklore attached to them. They were responsible for "tying knots in hair" similar to other folklore creatures

>Like satyrs, these similar creatures in other Indo-European mythologies are often also tricksters, mischief-makers, and dancers. The leshy was believed to trick travelers into losing their way. The Armenian Pay(n) were a group of male spirits said to dance in the woods. In Germanic mythology, elves were also said to dance in woodland clearings and leave behind fairy rings. They were also thought to play pranks, steal horses, tie knots in people's hair, and steal children and replace them with changelings. West notes that satyrs, elves, and other nature spirits of this variety are a "motley crew" and that it is difficult to reconstruct a prototype behind them.

These knots in the hair are called Fairy-Locks, and untangling them brings misfortune...

>In folklore, fairy-locks (or elflocks) are the result of fairies tangling and knotting the hairs of sleeping children and the manes of beasts as the fairies play in and out of their hair at night

>The concept is first attested in English in Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet in Mercutio's speech of the many exploits of Queen Mab, where he seems to imply the locks are only unlucky if combed out:

>"She is the fairies’ midwife, and she comes

>In shape no bigger than an agate stone.......

>That plaits the manes of horses in the night

>And bakes the elflocks in foul sluttish hairs,

>Which once untangled, much misfortune bodes."

I thought that was pretty neat. The fountain mentions in the books don't specify what the Satyr looks like, it just says it's a Satyr, so I don't think it's a coincidence that the Satyr/Silenos is the stone one. But Satyrs and Fauns aren't the only mirror images being conflated. Encanis and Menda-who-is-Tehlu kind of do the same thing, so do Lanre and Selitos. Mirror images, the same but not the same. Satyrs have horse imagery. Fauns get the goat imagery. The goat imagery applies to Bast and his boots with the fur, and it applies to Cinder with the goat eyes. The Tehlu who snuck into Perial's dream was an Incubus, sure. But the Tehlu who defeated Encanis, the Tehlu that the people pray to...

>Vashet made an amused huffing sound that wasn’t quite a laugh. “He was so sure he was right. Nothing could sway him. Years ago I decided arguing such things with a barbarian is a long, weary waste of my time.” She shrugged. “Think what you want about making babies. Believe in demons. Pray to a goat. So long as it doesn’t bruise me, why should I bother myself?”

He's the G.o.a.t. lmao

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u/Sketheteretaavan — 3 days ago

And as it was able to blend its beingness with the Father, with the creative principle of love, it then became that which it sought and in many cases, in the recordings of the words of the entity known to you as Jesus, this entity speaks as the Father.

I had a small but meaningful realization today and since it feels important enough to me to journal, I figured I'd go ahead and share with the class as well.

An important epiphany for me awhile back was because of the movie Arrival, specifically because a character in it mentions logograms (from Ancient Greek logos 'word', and gramma 'that which is drawn or written').

>"There is no correlation between what the Heptapod says and what the Heptapod writes... their writing conveys meaning, it doesn't represent sound... unlike speech, a logogram is free of time."

Another example of a logogram would be Egyptian hieroglyphs, it's symbols, whether read "forward" or "backwards" the meaning stays the same. This synchronicity with logograms is largely what led me here to find the Law of One and read the Ra materials. It opened me up to the idea of a 'universal language' that transcends linear time.

But lately I haven't been reading LoO as much. I still lurk the sub and check the daily quotes on the llresearch page, but lately the work of Carl Jung and Marie-Lousie von Franz has piqued my interest. It's been interesting to look at mythological stories through their eyes. I've been thinking a lot about stories and symbols.

Then I had a small 'epiphany' today while I was cooking and listening to music. The quotes from Hatonn and Q'uo where they basically say that Christ was channeling, he wasn't speaking as himself. He was channeling the Father

December 21, 1975

>There has been within your history, we are aware, much misunderstanding as to the reason for the mother of the one known as Jesus being called a virgin. You must realize that it is to indicate to all that the spirit is not of man but of the Father. Each of you is of the Father. Each of you is waiting to be born...

>Why are you here? We may say, to find out why you are here. For the Creator Itself knows Itself, and the desire that caused you is a desire to realize selfhood. The Creator is waiting to be known as the Father. He waits within you, and can be found through meditation.

Q'uo reiterates 44 years later November 23, 2019

>As the entity Jesus, who became the Christ, a son of God, moved through its incarnation, it traveled to many different locations at an early age so that it may explore more and more of the nature of what might be called truth, more and more of the nature of the evolutionary experience that is available to each entity at all times within the third-density experience.

>As it traveled to these various locations, studying with various masters, it became aware that as it was able, in its meditative state, to enter into a unity with the One Infinite Creator, whom the entity called the Father, then the entity known as Jesus eventually became able to blend its totality of being with that which it called the Father, or which it saw as love. And as it was able to blend its beingness with the Father, with the creative principle of love, it then became that which it sought and in many cases, in the recordings of the words of the entity known to you as Jesus, this entity speaks as the Father. The entity speaks not just as the one known as Jesus, although in other locations it spoke as the entity Jesus who had access to becoming the Father.

and something just clicked today. All of this is illusion, right? It's all a dream. We're in the Creator, the Creator is in us, and in you, just as you are in me, holographic universe etc... all of this is just the Creator telling stories to itself.

... so if you could channel the Father the way Christ did, what would that sound like? What's your mother tongue, your native language if you're the Father / Creator? What language would you default to when trying to teach someone something complicated? When you speak, what language is going to be the most comfortable/familiar to you, the Father?

Stories. Symbols. Logograms. The Father speaks in stories.

>The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

>He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. This is why I speak to them in parables

>Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand... But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.

u/Sketheteretaavan — 1 month ago