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Opinions On Adam’s Future In The Show?

Now I am new to the fandom and recently finished season 1 and 2 and have some mixed feelings about the portrayal of Adam that I wanted to get out and discuss with others. In essence I thought he was interesting and thought he had a lot of potential but when he died I felt myself feeling lacking. First off an element of Adam that always bothered me was how he was treated as this seemingly unsympathetic frat boy ass hole. Now this wouldn’t necessarily be a problem if it wasn’t for the fact that he is meant to be the first man. The reason why this rubs me the wrong way is because Lilith, the first woman, is treated as this perfect goddess of a woman who was great in everyway and perfect and inspiring. The reason why I bring this up is that I am almost confident that the reason for this is because in the original religious story of Adam, Eve, and Lilith. Lilith and Eve both are demonized and thus a prevalent idea in the church began to circulate about women being the root of evil or innately bad. Obviously this is not true or fair. However in the flipping of the script with having Adam be the problem I feel like it is now almost doing the reverse. Almost framing things as though men are the problem and the original issue and root of all issues in the world. Needless to say I don’t think either mentality is good since neither men nor women are predisposed toward evil so making Adam like this I feel like has a quasi similar harmful effect to having Lilith be like that in the original Bible story. Especially with how men tend to be treated sometimes nowadays in regards to mental health.

However this I could easily forgive if they actually go into Adam’s character and explore him further. Now obviously that feels difficult now with him being “dead” but I’m not entirely convinced things will remain that way, or at least I hope they don’t. From my understanding the creator has intentionally lied about things in the past so fans wouldn’t guess things ahead of time. And it is also common practice at this point for people behind shows and movies to do things like this, for example when everyone working on Spiderman No Way Home swore up and down that Tobey and Andrew wouldn’t be there only for them to be there. So I think it is still distinctly possible Adam could return as a sinner demon or in some other form beyond just being a hallucination which he is in season 2. I really hope this is the case since I feel there is a sort of unspoken tragedy to his character. I mean he is the first man, with that comes crazy expectations however in spite of all of his accomplishments and accolades nobody gives a shit about his death except Lute. What’s more when he does die the look he gives Lute is uncharacteristically peaceful and even happy. It made me wonder a lot about how Adam truly sees her and vice versa. Granted I have always had a thing for villain couples, but even so, I think exploring this relationship further from both sides is something that could be very interesting. What’s more I think a redemption story for Adam just makes perfect sense to bring the show full circle. The idea of Charlie helping redeem the original shows villain I feel would give a very nice over arching message.

Also, again, because he is the first man and all others come from him I really think he needs to be explored further since it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, the implication that comes with him being this asshole and what that is potentially saying for men just in general. Personally I feel when you have a character meant to be the beginning of all men and a character meant to be the beginning of all women, that either they both need to be flawed or they both need to be good because if one is good and the other is bad it comes across as somewhat sexist since if that is meant to be the beginning and the beginning is bad then what does that say about everyone after? Simply put I would like to explore potentially negative aspects of Lilith and positive aspects of Adam's deeper character rather than demonizing one and idolizing the other since I feel that's too simple. And with these two characters there is so much room to explore the issues that plague men and women in society in a really nuanced way. Also the idea of taking this guy who sees himself so highly and making him what he hates most a demon is just poetry. And the idea of how the relationship between him and Lute would be affected if when they reunite she sees he is a demon now could be really interesting to explore. All in all I feel like this character has so much to give and I hope he comes back and feels like he will. But I want other people's opinions on the matter.

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