u/Superb-Letterhead997

state of models (rant)

state of models (rant)

does anyone else feel like the state of models/rping just kinda sucks right now?

lately i’ve tried doing a long, immersive roleplay that admittedly started out pretty strong. but even with custom lore books that i create or edit myself it just doesn’t hit like it should. memory isnt an issue, thankfully i can fix that with extensions and such, but after a while the characters eventually feel like predictable morons that praise me as a divine exception to everything else in the world, like i’m gods gift to earth when i do the most mundane thing imaginable. nobody feels like a character, more like lobotomized zombies going off a checklist of quirks when they speak or act.

everything is so overpriced. and if they’re not overpriced then they’re incredibly slow, stupid, predictable, have terrible memory, shit prose, or all of that combined. especially with glm. every now and then i’ll be pleasantly surprised with what 5.1 can put out, and then im stuck swiping garbage messages that take a either a minute to over three minutes per message. i am so annoyingly familiar with countless slop phrases that these models put out. “you’re either x or y. i can’t decide which yet.” “REALLY looked.” “mouth opens. closes. opens again.” “a beat.” “most people do this… but YOU. you do THAT..” “you did x. in y. in my z.” the relentless need from the ai to assign my character a pet name that no real human being would ever use on a person they know. the impossible affection characters that are supposed to have little to no positive feelings for suddenly manifesting because of some stupid forced positivity bias. etcetera, etcetera. it gets to a point where if i’m constantly dictating what should happen, i might as well just go on wattpad and write my own shit.

i’m sure if i were rich i could just use opus and have a fun time, but im not. opus can be addicting, but so terribly unaffordable for anything that isn’t short stories/smut. occasionally it writes something so painfully underwhelming for it’s price that i regret ever opening my wallet for anthropic. seriously, all i want is a decent model that doesn’t take 5 minutes to generate some x and y ism bullshit that makes me regret even trying to do anything but mindless, short lived smut. which even opus is guilty of doing sometimes. i tried deepseek v4, but i instantly stopped. on nano its really slow and feels like a model from two years ago, at least in my opinion.

are we just not there yet? how long am i gonna have to wait to not groan after reading the dogshit these models spew out 😭

(sorry if this is a little incoherent i’m really tired)