Discourse around the Cornell case

I'm sure you've heard about the case multiple times. A woman was drugged and raped by seven fraternity members at a frat party and the men were barely given any punishment. 2 men were expelled and the rest had to write essays.

The case in itself and how it was handled is horrifying. But on top of that, men are saying that Jane Doe is falsely accusing the guys who were involved. This is actually disgusting. How could you look at the details of the case and come to that conclusion? Do men really have no empathy? No sense of morals? Are they too pornsick to formulate opinions that are not based on their fucked up fantasies?

Not only was she raped for seven hours but now people are blaming for going to the frat party in the first place. So what is it then? Is it all men or not? They wouldn't even let her drop out of school.

I don't think I can live like this anymore. Knowing that men hate women and would never take accountability for what their fellow men are doing. 'Men are protectors', yeah right, protectors of each other.

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u/Sure-Hurry7960 — 8 days ago

Jokes about 'performative men'.

"6'5 feminist btw"

"Reading feminist literature with my tote bag and matcha while listening to Clairo"

"I hate periods, I wish period products were free"

So it's a joke to you. So being a feminist is a joke to you. I know it started out as making fun of men who fake being feminist to get into women's pants but I think it's delved into just simply making fun of actually feminist men and feminism as a whole.

Also comments on a strong woman's video,

"I'll do the cooking and the cleaning" gives the same vibe to me.

Maybe I'm being too woke but this is just how I feel. Feel free to share your opinions.

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u/Sure-Hurry7960 — 1 month ago

People don't care about rapists or pedophiles as much as they say they do

This is bit of a rant. I know a lot of people don't like pedophiles or rapists but people just don't seem to care. Mostly men but loads of women too. We have so many male rapists, pedophiles, abusers but they still have the support they always have. Not even just allegations, even when it's proven right. Every time I suggest that we should boycott art made by criminals, people act like I'm saying something insane. Separate the 'art' from the 'artist', sure, but I don't want to support the art if supporting the art is directly helping them get out of these situations. I just wonder that if we truly as a society start boycotting these people, society would be so much better but no one takes this seriously. I feel like I'm going insane. This generation is even worse because we're just so desensitized to everything. I have my cousins and siblings telling me that saying the n word is not racist because they're not actively doing anything to black people and I'm shocked that I even exist in proximity with these people. I feel like I'm going crazy, no one seems to care about anything and no one seems to have any morals. So many feminist creators yet they still listen to and support literal rapists. How can we ever get out of the patriarchy if we never hold men accountable? Men being shitty is so normalised that it has become the norm now and men being decent is something extremely rare so people are not even shocked when there are allegations against men. I'm so disappointed in this world. The world could have been so good for everyone but here we are.

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u/Sure-Hurry7960 — 2 months ago

Men still don't see us as equally capable

I saw a video about Judith Polgar (world's greatest female chess player) beating Magnus Carlsen in a park. I went to the comments and there are still many men who refused to acknowledge her skill. They either called her an exception or they said that she's just 'afternoon snack' for the greatest male players. Same comments on a post about Hedy Lamarr (They said she stole the idea of frequency hopping from other men) and even Marie Curie (they said she just 'helped' her husband with his discoveries).

As much as I would like to ignore it, it hurts. It hurts that they still can't see us the same way as themselves. Women could hate men as much as they want but they still don't see men as subhuman creatures who are not good at anything, that's all men. And they don't realise why there are less women in these fields, don't they understand that men have oppressed us for thousands of years, feeding us lies about ourselves, our capabilities? It's not that we're bad at these things, we just do them much less than men because of our socialization. Male dominated fields are still so hostile towards women. I still have male friends, male members of my family (even female members) thinking that women are not as good as men at things that are other than cooking or child rearing.

I'm just so angry that we constantly have to prove ourselves to men who still won't be convinced. I'm tired of working so hard to prove myself just for them to still shit on my capabilities. I think seperatism is the only way left because men might not hate women, but they will never ever see us equals. We should make our own world, own sports, own schools, own hospitals etc. because all men do is drain the life out of women. Misogyny is so ingrained in our society, I don't think we can do anything about the patriarchy by including men.

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u/Sure-Hurry7960 — 2 months ago

Female history

It's so painful to realise the amount of female history that was erased or the amount of Einsteins that were locked up in their homes. Even the few women who were able to have a breakthrough had their discoveries stolen by men or had their names erased. Even in literature women had to have male pen names. Mozart's sister was a better musician than he was but sge was never given the chance to make something of herself. Every time I see men make comments like why aren't there more female F1 drivers, female chess players, female scientists etc. I get so so mad because why do you think? You take everything from us and ask us why we have nothing? How can you think 10,000 years of oppression can leave in a span of 30 years? I don't know how to deal with this. The amount of voices that were silenced.

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u/Sure-Hurry7960 — 2 months ago

Men are such attention seekers

I am active in a few female only subs and on every single post there is a man trying to 'debate' women. There are loads of feminist subs that they can visit to debate but they specifically have to come to subs that are female only. What's this obsession of men wanting things that are not meant for them? It's like they never grow up. They want us to be empathetic towards their issues while they act like this. I used to engage with these 'debates' with understanding but they literally just ignore all your points anyway. And if you don't agree with the bullshit they spew, they'll come to your dms and harass you. And these are fully grown men, not even teenagers. Why is it so impossible for men to leave women alone?

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u/Sure-Hurry7960 — 2 months ago