u/Terrible_Ad_9718

What if reeds
STRETCH PUNCH (primary fire) and
BRAINIAC BOUNCE (ultimate)
pierced shields.

Would this break him or would you consider it quality of life?

since we think this we should remove it on buckys tainted voltage and sues shield

reeds is likely to only effect 1 to 2 people and buckys pierces thru an entire team while also doing 20 more dmg idk how reeds it oppressive in comparison

Im not saying hes bad into dive and hes still a decent option but you are losing alot of value sticking him in ur backline and heres a few reasons why

1. ULT CHARGE
   hitting just 1 dive or 2 tanks is awful charge rate when you could be hitting 4 to 6. Its one of the most expensive ults aswell at 3400

2. RANGE
   His 15 meter range means you wont be able to apply pressure in other ways while waiting for the dive meaning youll either be walking in circles waiting doing nothing (also negatively effecting ult charge) or slapping the tanks also effectively doing nothing or just feeding the enemy ults. (Scenarios depend on support positioning)

3. FRAGS ON DIVE ARE UNLIKELY
   While i feel reeds kit hard counter spidey most divers arent going to die to you unless they overstay there welcome.
   If you chase the dive you will likely horribly position yourself and they will frag your supports anyway

4. HP POOL
   His effective hp is 1200 (all his kits hp pools combined)
   Why would i sit backline with this much hp when i can use it to brawl enemy frontline/midline or stall enemy backline

Im not saying hes bad into dive just that if youre playing him as anti dive youd be doing yourself a favor by playing namor or bucky instead because they have ranged options that far surpass reed from these positions

HOWEVER if your team is a full brawl comp he’s perfect for peel and still getting value in other ways because your entire team will be playing a relatively close position to you allowing you to make plays and still be close enough to peel fast