u/TheDentedPen

Ink vs Ember test - fun for all

Ink vs Ember test - fun for all

Here are two stories that I just generated. They both use the same prompt, and no components. The point was to have as clean a test as possible to see the difference between them.

Here's the prompt:

[This chapter is in close third person on Sheila] "But honey," Sheila said, placing her hand on Terry's chest and looking up into his eyes. "We came to the party. It would be rude to leave now."

"We didn't know what it was! They can't expect us--"

She kissed him. "Look. Give it a chance. We are new in the neighborhood. We don't want to give them a bad first impression."

"I don't know. I just...." Terry frowned, and rubbed his forehead, right at his hairline, the way he always did when worried. "Are you sure this is what you want?"

"Well, I don't know. But how can we know we don't like it if we don't at least try it?"

"Ok. If it's what you want." Terry sighed, then dropped their keys into the bowl.

The hostess, an attractive woman in her 40s--a little older than his and Sheila's 38 years, but she was in good shape--called for attention. She explained that the women would take a set of keys, then hold it up for the owner to identify. A young woman--younger than Sheila, in better shape, with very long hair and small breasts, skinny--basically the exact opposite of her--pulls out keys and holds them up. Terry's. She feels a brief pang of jealousy, but he looked almost relieved. He caught her eyes and she nodded to him, smiling. He moved over by the woman and they began talking.

Sheila takes a set of keys, looking around at the men still left--a short but very muscular young man with a bald head; a tall, trim man she knew was an assistant professor at the college. Literature, she thought, but she didn't really remember; a somewhat pudgy, scruffy man who worked with computers. She felt around in the bowl, trying to discern which keys belonged to which man. She had never noticed how similar key fobs really were. They all felt the same. She took a breath and grabbed a set, holding them up without looking at them. The three men looked up, and quickly the bald man and the pudgy guy looked disappointed; the look sent a thrill through her body, amping up the heat growing in her belly.

She walked to the tall man and introduced herself. He turned out to be quiet, but nice. He had a welcoming smile and warm, intelligent eyes.

They talk for a while, then the hostess tells everyone that they were welcome to stay around, to just close the door on the way out. As she's talking, the bald man pinches her behind and she squeals. "Have fun, everyone!" She and the man leave.

As they walk to his house--four houses down from hers--they talk about his job, and his life. He says he's been married for about 12 years. He had suggested the party to his wife because things had been getting a bit stale the last few years. Sheila asks him what he's into. He says he's pretty open, that part of the reason for the party was to experience new things.

They get to his house--a nice place, clean. No kids, no pets. He opens some wine and they sit on the sofa, talking some more. She admits to feeling a bit awkward. He says it's often that way, particularly the first time. It is so different that we don't have a script for how to behave, or how these things should go. He's found that, if all else fails, just closing your eyes and having a kiss usually helps. It puts you into an experience you know, a story that you are familiar with. She agrees, sets her wine aside. She takes a breath and closes her eyes.

His kiss comes as a surprise. Gentle, soft lips. The nerves had settled in her as a general excitement. When his tongue tentatively parted her lips, she welcomed him. Suddenly--maybe, like he said, it was a matter of finding a story she was familiar with--he body jumped into gear, excited and ready. He is slow, respectful, but also eager and attentive.

They get partially naked on the sofa, kissing and touching, exploring each other's bodies. After a time, she reaches for his crotch and feels he is hard and erect. Maybe it's time to move to the bedroom? she asks. He nods.

He leads her to what looks like the guest room. Once there, they undress each other and she discovers he is exceptionally well-hung--9 inches, at least, but thin. Almost the opposite of Terry, who was of average length but thick. They use a dental dam as he gives her oral sex, and she puts a condom on him and gives him a bit of a blowjob, neither one of them orgasming. Then they have sex and she orgasms, but quietly. It is not even a very good one. He orgasms loudly, almost theatrically, then collapses beside her, panting. He almost immediately begins to caress her body (just her arms and stomach).

They recover and talk more about work, about the neighborhood, about who else from the party he's had sex with. About his doctorate, and what he studied--Chaucer, specifically his dissertation was about the Miller's tale. He was having an affair with his advisor's wife at the time. He thought he was being clever with his dissertation; he wasn't. The advisor knew about the affair, and later ended it.

"The affair or the marriage?"

"Himself."

They get very quiet. Then he turns to her, and thanks her for the night, asking how things were for her. She says they were ok.

Oh, he asks. Not that great?

No, it was fine. You were great.

That doesn't sound convincing, he says.

Don't be silly, she says. She looks him in the eye and says he was great. He says:

"Alas, you lords, many a false flatterer

Is in your courts, and many a liar,

That please you well more, by my faith,

Than he who says the truth unto you."

She is confused.

Chaucer, he says. Well, modernized. Still, would you mind giving me another chance?

Sure, she says, smiling. You are eager.

Yes I am, he says, smiling back.

[chapter ends here]

u/TheDentedPen — 16 hours ago

This is what is called a "running gag"

The yellow line is mine. The rest was the AI.

u/TheDentedPen — 1 day ago

I did it for you, r/redquill. I did it all for you!

The yellow was generated by the AI. The blue I added afterward.

u/TheDentedPen — 2 days ago

Collection page disappeared from My Library.

I was just there, but now the button is gone, and I can't see to find a way to the collections again. Help me, Obi-wan!

EDIT: Thanks to u/LAPhoenixRising I was able to find it--where it says "Created", click the down arrow and select "Saved". Then it will show.

u/TheDentedPen — 2 days ago

Updated "My Library"--Nice!

Just logged in to see the new Library layout. Very nice! I do miss the component filter option for "most used" as I could see which component was...well, most used. Still--looking great!

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u/TheDentedPen — 2 days ago

A suggestion for using quills

Some people will say I'm nuts, because they use up all their quills every day. I almost never did. But what I've started doing to use up my quills is to generate an audio file any time I have enough quills leftover. Once you've generated the audio, you can go back and listen to it any time by going back to that story and doing the same thing to generate it: selecting play from the menu where it normally says "Roleplay".

Also, you can download a program like Audacity to record the audio as it plays, so you can have it as an audio file on your pc.

Just a little tip. Maybe it will help someone.

u/TheDentedPen — 8 days ago

A Modest Proposal: Category & Tag Rework

Look out, kids! The old man is feeling feisty. Hold on to your butts...

The problem with the existing kinks/tags list is, in part, that the site is trying to use the same list as both tags and categories. This fundamentally misunderstands the purpose of both of these items.

Categories are a way of grouping content – deciding which items will sit next to each other. In a grocery store, this would be the large signs over sections of the store: Butcher, Dairy, Frozen, Breakfast, Snacks, etc.

Tags, on the other hand, are a way of labeling content – deciding what is inside the content. Jerky contains meat, salt, and spices (all on the label) but it is kept in the Snacks aisle.

While it is possible to the use the tags list as the categories, it will lead to a great deal of confusion, and make it difficult for a user to find the right content. “Scissoring” is listed in the Kinks/Categories under “Fetish”, but in lesbian there is also “Lesbian Scissoring” (I guess to differentiate it from transmen scissoring? Or maybe crafting/tailoring?)

Kinks/Categories should be what are listed in the site menu down the left hand side, under “Discover”.

Tags should be the constituents of a story—the ingredients that make a specific story. Tags are also what should show up in Infinite Kink.

With that in mind, I offer a restructured list of kinks, categories, and tags. I will put this on a page in the wiki so it can be easily retrieved by anyone wanting to use it. (wiki link: https://therubric.wiki/index.php/Category_and_Tag_Rework_Suggestion)

New Category List

  • Orientation
    • Gay
    • Lesbian
    • Straight
    • Bisexual/Pansexual
  • Acts
    • Pegging
    • Anal Sex
    • Oral Sex
    • Bondage
    • Prostate Stimulation
    • Forced Orgasm
    • Orgasm Denial
    • Humiliation
    • Masturbation
    • Lactation
    • Creampie
    • Spanking
    • Impregnation/Breeding
    • Edging
    • Tickling
  • Role
    • CG/L
    • Older/Younger
    • Doctor/Nurse
    • Teacher
    • Boss
    • Maid
    • Babysitter
    • Age Play
    • Nanny
  • Bodies
    • Transsexual
    • Little person
    • Tall
    • Big
    • Skinny
    • Wheelchair user
    • Limb difference
    • Futanari (hermaphrodite)
    • Muscular
    • Soft
    • Giant Cock
    • Monster Cock
    • Big Tit
    • Inflation/Growth
    • Gender Change
    • Body Swap
  • Situation
    • Stepcest
    • First Time
    • Cheating/Affair
    • Divorce
    • Cuckold
    • Hotwife
    • Public
    • Clothed Female/Nude Male (CFNM)
    • Embarrassed Nude Female (ENF)
    • Jack-Off Buddy (Jobud)
    • Swinging
    • Open Marriage
    • Girl Next Door
  • Participants
    • Threesome
    •  Group Sex
    • Gangbang
    • Orgy
    • Harem
  • Fetish
    • ABDL
      • Diaper Change
      • Diaper Bondage
    • Furry
    • Feet
    • Fingernails
    • Watersports/Messy
    • Exhibitionism
    • Virgin
    • Crush/Trample
    • Voyeurism
    • Object Insertion
    • Domination/Submission
    • Sadism/Masochism
    • Pet Play
    • Chastity Device
    • Titfight
    • Cum
    • Wedgie
    • Omorashi
    • Fart
  • Type
    • Romance
    • Erotica
    • Smut
  • Fanfiction
  • Crossdressing
    • Forced Crossdressing
    • Feminization
    • Sissy
  • Vanilla
  • Paranormal
    • Male Pregnancy (MPreg)
    • Species Change
    • Shapeshifting
    • Body Swap
    • Sci-fi
      • Aliens
      • Robots/Machines

       

    • Horror
      • Monster
      • Ghost
      • Tentacles

       

    • Fantasy
      • Dragons
      • Fae/Fairies

 

Explanations:

  • Fanfiction is entirely too large to breakdown in Categories;  that would be better handled with tags. How that list of tags will be created is another discussion entirely. I think allowing users to create tags would not end well, but it’s asking a little much of the developers to add in a tag for every fictional universe in existence. The manga additions alone would likely dwarf the rest of RQ altogether. Maybe just giving the major fandoms tags would be good? That will still be dozens, but doable.
  • Gender Change is in “Body” even though the most common form of Gender Change erotica (as far as I know) is sudden change brought on through fantastical means (potion/spell/futuristic tech). It is listed there because it is an entirely separate thing than transsexual bodies. There aren’t a lot of gender-confirming surgery stories.
  • I removed DDLG even though it is more common, and replaced it with the gender-neutral version Caregiver/Little (CG/L), simply to encompass a wider range. These can be differentiated with tags.
  • Is there really wedgie erotica? I mean, Rule 34 says there is, but still.
  • I listed “Futanari” as a category to specifically refer to hermaphrodite stories (ie. A character with both male and female sexual organs). This is distinct from a trans individual, who may combine secondary characteristics (breasts/body hair) but only one set of sexual organs at a time.
  • I have removed shemale as offensive
  • My distinction between the “kink” and “fetish” categories: by definition, all fetishes are kinks, but not all kinks are fetishes. It is a matter of degree. A kink is something extra that you add for fun—like whipped cream on a brownie. Technically, a fetish is something you require for gratification. What I did instead was use “kink” for little extras—things that didn’t really fit into other categories, but were just fun. Fetishes were for the slightly farther-out items. I am not trying to shame anyone or
  • “Giant Cock” is a really big penis. “Monster Cock” is a penis of any size on a Wendigo, sasquatch, Deep One, or rancor. (fun fact: gorilla penises are usually less than two inches long when erect. So I really mean any size)

It looks like the list originally was created in two different ways: one method was to go to porn and erotica sites and write down the categories; the other was to think of a category—Gay, for instance—and then copy all the other categories under that one (Gay Bondage, Gay First Time, Gay ABDL).

Tags

These should be a separate list that includes all the items on the Categories list, but also includes more specific items. These are the ones I could come up with.

gay, lesbian, hetero, bi, pansexual, pegging, anal, blowjob, cunnilingus, bondage, prostate, forced orgasm, orgasm denial, humiliation, masturbation, lactation, creampie, spanking, impregnation/breeding, cg/l, ddlg, ddlb, mdlg, mdlb, ddmg, ddmb, mdmg, mdmb, pet, older/younger, doctor, nurse, teacher,  boss, maid, babysitter, age play, nanny, trans, little person, tall, fat, skinny, wheelchair, limb difference, futanari, stepcest, stepfather, stepmother, stepsister, stepbrother, stepsibling, stepson, stepdaughter, first time, cheating, divorce, cuckold, hotwife, public, cfnm, enf, jobud, swinging, open marriage, threesome, group, gangbang, orgy, harem, giant cock, monster cock, big tit, inflation, growth, gender change, body swap, d/s, s/m, chastity, edging, titfight, cum, wedgie, omorashi, fart, girl next door, abdl, diaper, furry, feet, fingernails, watersports, messy, pee, scat, exhibitionism, virgin, crush, trample, voyeur, object insertion, romance, erotica, smut, fanfiction, crossdressing, forced crossdressing, feminization, sissy, vanilla, mpreg, species change, shapeshifting, body swap, sci-fi, aliens, robots, machine, horror, monster, ghost, tentacle, fantasy, dragon, fae, potterverse, marvel, superhero, mind control, hypno, gentle, HAE, omega, reverse harem, mf, mff, fmm, mfm, paranormal, brat, wlw, mlm, solo, amazon, tickling, muscular, fat

I’m open to adding other tags, though I don’t think it should get too specific (ie. wwbowtoaa – women with big ones who think Oswald acted alone).

So those are my thoughts. I think a revamp like this would help make the site easier to use and do a lot to increase engagement and help users find stories by other authors that they might enjoy.

 Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

The Dented Pen

 EDIT: Moved "Edging" from Kinks to Acts; Added Tickling; changed some categories that were...odd (my fault).

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u/TheDentedPen — 9 days ago

A possible work-around for the AI not following the prompt or continuity

Gather 'round, children, for story time with old man Pendy...

On Friday, I think, I was having trouble when I generated a chapter in my longest story. When I generated chapter 38, it was ignoring the first line in the prompt "[Begin chapter here] Niamh wakes up the next morning...." and instead began with the characters in the elevator, already traveling down. Which, you know--en media res and all that, fine--but there was important stuff that happened before they left that I wanted the reader to see. I tried it about 4-5 times and kept getting very similar outcomes. It also was changing some of the characters' personalities. No bueno.

So I left it for a few days, and tried again tonight. After about another 4-5 tries, I was still getting the same thing. I tried forking it at chapter 37--same thing. I tried deleting the chapter and regenerating it--same. Tried generating an empty chapter, then saving it and rewriting that chapter--same. I had burned through a good 8-10 AWs at this point, which is fine, whatever. But I was getting a little annoyed. I even checked the Lorebook, but that chapter was empty.

Then on a whim I deleted chapter 38, and set it to standard writer, standard length, same spice, and just used the start of my (very long prompt). I let it generate--finally it started in the morning, and not on the elevator. Progress!

Then I went back, set it to Ember, novel length, told it to rewrite the chapter with the same prompt--and it not only did it, starting at the right place, but had the correct continuity and personalities. I think that maybe when a "bad" chapter gets generated it might somehow get "stuck" in the document (or what the AI sees of the document). Or maybe it's haunted. Could go either way. Maybe the prompt was too long, or too unformatted (1167 words).

Oh--I just realized. Perhaps the AI contains multitudes.

TLDR

It wouldn't follow the prompt or seem to pay any attention to the continuity on either Ember or Ink. I set it to standard, with standard length, and gave it just the beginning of the prompt to work with (because it was standard, on sale, and short, it was like 3 quills, so basically free). Then I set it back to Ember, novel length, correct spice, and gave it the shortened prompt and it worked.

u/TheDentedPen — 10 days ago

Minor bug: in Opera (v.133.0.5932.85): No gear icon for story ideas

It shows properly on my phone, but not in my browser. Probably an Opera issue, but I thought I'd mention it.

u/TheDentedPen — 12 days ago

Minor bug: "Stories" never shows more than "(10)"

Looking at my profile just now, I saw that I have 14-15 published stories, but the "stories" heading says "Stories (10)". Incredibly minor bug, but a bug nonetheless.

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u/TheDentedPen — 12 days ago

Holy Monkey! Find any prompt for any chapter in your story

I don't know if this was just added or if it had been there all along, but it looks like, if you go to any of your stories, any chapter, and click on the down arrow next to the title of the chapter, it will show you the entire original prompt you used.

If it's new, THANK YOU RED QUILL.

If it's always been there, I'm a thicko, and THANK YOU RED QUILL.

u/TheDentedPen — 16 days ago

The Unofficial Red Quill Wiki

Hello fellow smut nerds. I could see we desperately needed a wiki, and didn't see a way to easily build one through the typical means (fandom, etc) because of the nature of the website, so...I made one: https://therubric.wiki.

It's just little ole me right now, so it's slow going. But I'm working on it. If you are interested in helping, there is a place to apply. It isn't open to public editing, because the internet is a terrible place (don't ever go there). So...

Anyway, it's there, with a whopping, maybe, 12 pages? I'm working on filling it out. Just wanted to share

u/TheDentedPen — 19 days ago

Managing the Lorebook

So when I have a minor character named appear in a chapter--like for a few paragraphs--and then they are gone, never to return I find that RQ often adds that character to the Lorebook. Should I delete them? And if so, won't they just come back again when RQ scans the chapter again?

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u/TheDentedPen — 2 months ago

Minor bug: Text alignment not working

I didn't see that this had been reported, but I'm not surprised if it hasn't because I'm assuming I'm the only weirdo who wanted his text aligned different than it normally is (I image that right-to-left languages have the same issue, but inverted).

After highlighting some text, the text alignment options (Left/Center/Right) don't do anything. So, in English, as far as I can see, there is no way to get right-aligned (or centered) text. Hardly a major bug, but I thought I'd report it.

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u/TheDentedPen — 2 months ago

Has the discord invite been removed from the site? Or just hidden from me? ;)

I saw the discord logo/invite link a few days ago, but discord told me that the link was expired. Now, it is not on the site (though I am told people are there). Are you guys corralling us all onto reddit for some kind of capture/mark/release scheme? ;)

EDIT: Just checked and found the link, but discord says that link is expired.

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u/TheDentedPen — 2 months ago