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One thing I would want to point out about the show is how relatable it can be for a wide range of people. Mothers can relate to Frankie, quirky girls can relate to Sue, etc.

A detail in the episode Heck's Best Thing that caught me was how Axl acted well spoken, likeable and put together during the interview with the football scout, contrary to his parents believing he will screw it up knowing him. Then the moment the scout leaves the house, Axl unwinds and reverts back to his "true" self. Frankie and Mike were in awe of that behavior switch, and it is further revealed that with his friends' parents, the Donahues, or with anyone else outside the family, he brings out the best of him.

As a current teen myself, I found that little detail very, very relatable. Unlike Axl I don't justify that it's because my parents don't "bring their best", I appreciate what my parents do. However I still find myself raising my voice and slacking off when I'm around my family, especially getting mad when being told what to do. Meanwhile out in public, I do my best talking to people and being cooperative. I find that the more I'm not around members of my family, the more I feel like bringing out the best of myself in the real world.

Has it always been typical teenage behavior to act hostile toward your parents, but not letting those traits carry on over to how you present yourself to others in the real world? Did anyone else relate to that episode? Not to stray far off topic of the show itself, I found that little gag intriguing and would like to laud the writers of the show for how realistic and relatable these scenarios are, adding depth to the show.

#1

Having dove through the comics from 1991 to the present a number of times, understanding the personalities and quirks of all the characters, and how Pierce wraps the comic arcs in a "floating timeline", I have noticed a few occurrences where a character acts or says something a little off. I thought I'd start a discussion.

#1 The banter between Ellen and Nate was always recurrent. However, I found it a little odd how she pokes fun at Marty's weight in that last panel. That was typically something in Nate's department. Perhaps this was more in the earlier strips pre-2005, but I knew Ellen would support her dad and be on his side when Nate tears him down. (Ex. The Peter Pan costume, shaving his mustache comic arcs)

#2

#2 Correct me if I'm wrong but this one generally felt a little unusual. Thinking on it now Gina may be giving friendly courtesy to Teddy and Nate at the moment. However, putting in perspective the known recurrent theme of Gina and Nate hating each other's guts, as well as scenarios where Nate runs into Gina later on, this can come off as a rare moment where Gina is nice to Nate.

#3. There was a recent strip (around the past year or so) featuring an arc of Francis having a bad picture day. These were always a Nate-thing throughout the comic's run. I can't retrieve it now, but I recall it following a typical setup to a Nate-picture day arc. Francis ended up with "duck lips" and his school picture turned out horrible. The arc ended with Francis being told his "duck lips" are attractive, and Francis tries using this to his advantage by charming girls with it. Before GoComics set the paywall, I recall a comment stating that this looked like a Nate comic arc that was swapped in for Francis, and that perfectly sums up my thoughts on that arc.

Not to be nitpicky on little details, but I thought it would be interesting if there were other moments of this manner, or if there are disagreements on the table for the examples I given.

Not long ago I picked up the simple advice that "Friends describe you". As someone very conscious on self-perception and how others perceive me, I find that keeping this in mind sooner would had done me wonders, especially after lost friendships, having had positive or neutral perceptions of me damaged as result of my own actions. Other times I do or say something that doesn't line up with one's perception of me previously. I found that this reflects how my identity or personality can be inconsistent at times.

Lately now, upon every friendship I've had with anyone I ask myself, "What is likeable about me", or "what makes people want to reach back to me". This sentiment that friends describe you gives a crisp idea on who you are and how you chose to present yourself to the world, and it's a saying I wish I had known sooner when it came to working on and improving myself.

I've been getting more into Papa Roach and the nu metal scene lately as I expand my music taste. A quirk I have that I would like to share is my observation towards the autocomplete search predictions that appear as you type a query on Google or YouTube's search bar. For example: "🔍 papa roach last resort", "🔍 papa roach last resort lyrics". Not only are these search predictions based off the algorithm, but they also reflect how common of a search it is. A common habit of the search predictions I been noticing for a while, that most others may not have given second thought of, are the number of misattributions implied by these search predictions, where Band A is misattributed to Band B's song. A lot of these misattributions come from user searches that the algorithm picks it up, but sometimes I find the range of these mistakes intriguing.

Below are a list of songs by other bands misattributed to Papa Roach, as per YouTube and Google search predictions.

Alien Ant Farm - Smooth Criminal
Crazy Town - Butterfly (Limp Bizkit are more frequently mistaken for this song, but Papa Roach are a runnerup)
Disturbed - Down with the Sickness
Drowning Pool - Bodies
Limp Bizkit - Behind Blue Eyes
Limp Bizkit - Break Stuff
Limp Bizkit - My Generation
Limp Bizkit - My Way
Limp Bizkit - Nookie
Limp Bizkit - Rollin' (Air Raid Vehicle) (Many variations including "🔍 papa roach keep rollin" surface as a search prediction)
Limp Bizkit - Take A Look Around (implied as "🔍 papa roach mission impossible")
Linkin Park - Crawling
P.O.D. - Alive (Papa Roach also have a song called Alive, but obviously unrelated and lesser known as a deep cut, implied as "🔍papa roach i feel so alive")
P.O.D. - Boom (implied as "🔍 here comes the boom papa roach")
P.O.D. - Satellite
P.O.D. - Youth of the Nation
Pop Evil - Torn to Pieces (Ambiguous, "🔍 papa roach torn to pieces" may be a misremembering of Last Resort's lyrics)
Saliva - Click Click Boom
System of a Down - Aerials
System of a Down - Chop Suey!
System of a Down - Toxicity
Three Days Grace - Animal I Have Become
Three Days Grace - I Hate Everything About You
Three Days Grace - Riot
Trapt - Headstrong
Uncle Kracker - Drift Away
Uncle Kracker - Follow Me

If you go on YouTube or Google's search bar and type "papa roach" followed by initiators of any of these song titles from other artists, they will appear as "🔍 papa roach [title of song by other band]", implying by the search suggestion that they were alternately behind this song instead, as the user who searched it thought.

My personal comments on these misattributions, and what I notice as I come across them in general:

• There are two types of misattributions. They occur either from similarities in genre, scene, and era (Limp Bizkit, P.O.D.), or similarities in names (As exhibited from the Uncle Kracker misattributions. Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit also heavily get mixed up for each other)
• Regarding Break Stuff and Chop Suey!, I am aware Papa Roach covers both songs as part of a nu metal tribute medley during recent concerts, making those as search predictions ambiguous (plus the possibility of mashups being another factor to these suggestions). However, I find unique variations of search predictions that imply both songs have been mistaken for Papa Roach prior to covering them. On YouTube, Break Stuff is implied from search predictions such as "🔍papa roach one of those days" and "papa roach he said she said". A very oddly specific search prediction I came across on Google is "🔍papa roach why have you forsaken me" as well as "🔍papa roach chop suey lyrics".
• The search predictions reflect Papa Roach's genre shift. I find the misattributions to Three Days Grace's hits intriguing as it reflects Papa Roach's shift to a more melodic, hard rock sound and having sort of an emo image by Getting Away With Murder. As we know they didn't embrace the nu metal label and let their music grow and expand as the genre started to fade away as the 2000's progressed. It's shows their flexibility with music if people think they sound like both Limp Bizkit AND Three Days Grace.
• On the other hand, many of these same bands listed are misattributed to Papa Roach - mainly Last Resort. This includes many of the big household names from the nu-metal scene: Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Korn, System of a Down, Trapt, P.O.D. - even Slipknot, Deftones, and Rage Against the Machine(!) appear as a search prediction misattribution in the form of "🔍[band] last resort"
• The implications implied by these search predictions. When I come across a search prediction like "🔍papa roach toxicity" or "🔍papa roach rollin" it makes me think of an alternate music video, thumbnail and CD single or album packaging. Does this search prediction imply the original song has a new music video with the misattributed artist in their place? Or does this search prediction imply the original song keeps the original music video with the other band in their place? For instance, Rollin' has "LIMP BIZKIT" literally written all over it. It's a classic in LB's catalog. It's very weird to think that people misattribute that song to Papa Roach. Jacoby doesn't quite have the swagger, shock humor persona Fred Durst is infamous for, and a lot of the lyrics in Rollin' wouldn't quite land the same with "Papa Roach" inserted in place of Limp Bizkit. How would the backup dancers look in Papa Roach's version of Rollin'? Does "🔍papa roach toxicity" imply that instead of "SYSTEM OF A DOWN" being stylized in Hollywood lettering in that iconic album art, it's "PAPA ROACH" instead?
• Early ages of the internet including peer-to-peer file sharing services with Limewire and Napster definitely had a role in collective misattributions, as both services were notorious for mislabeled media files for various reasons. I like to imagine there were an ocean of low-res mp3 files like "papa_roach_-_let_the_bodies_hit_the_floor.mp3" or a very bad quality of Rollin' labeled as Papa Roach. People who don't know better can just hear the song on the radio and fill in a band they are familiar with. I can also dive through YouTube comments or old forums and find instances where people thought certain songs were Papa Roach, these search predictions solidify such mistake.
• Papa Roach serves as a secondary misattribution to big songs. I've explored the misattributions to Smooth Criminal, Down with the Sickness, and Bodies. These songs are often misattributed to bigger household name bands including Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, System of a Down and Korn. In the cases for these songs, some of which arguably heavier than a typical PR song, Papa Roach are more of a runner-up misattribution in these cases. They serve as a shorthand to the signature songs (I'm avoiding the term one hit wonder) by lesser known bands outside the genre such as P.O.D., Saliva, and Trapt.
• Lots of Limp Bizkit misattributions. What I find amusing is how seemingly forced YouTube and Google are with misattributing LB's hits to PR. By contrast, Papa Roach has three songs misattributed to LB according to search predictions: Last Resort, Scars and She Loves Me Not. I find this very odd since Limp Bizkit is objectively the more known band in general, while PR is mainly known for Last Resort to the general crowd. Not to mention the difference of LB being more about partying and swagger while PR touching more on emotional angst. Interestingly, "🔍papa roach chocolate starfish" comes up as a search suggestion, implying they were behind this album instead of LB.
• P.O.D. sounds closest to Papa Roach, especially with Youth of the Nation. Runner ups include maybe Saliva and potentially Limp Bizkit if we're talking style and not themes or lyrics. Three Days Grace as a misattribution feels understandable when we refer to PR's stylistic shift with songs like Scars. The most absurd as a search prediction are definitely Papa Roach paired with System of a Down's hits. I hear zero resemblance between Jacoby and Serj Tankien's vocals and they are sonically different altogether. I find those misattributions ridiculous. Altogether I find the idea of mistaking System of a Down and Limp Bizkit for Papa Roach very odd being both of those bands are the biggest household names, while Papa Roach are generally second tier in the iceberg of nu metal.

I am the overthinking type as it may appear from the thought processes I shared. This is a unique habit of mine upon typing in search predictions which I've noticed for over 4 years. I laud anyone who took the time reading all the way through. With Papa Roach in my rotation a lot more lately, I hope this can entail an interesting conversation or input with any fans of the band. What songs sound closest to Papa Roach? The least? Can you see Jacoby singing a song like any of these? Have you once thought any of these songs (or any not on this list) were Papa Roach?