u/The_Revenant_King23

I'm sure most of us here have a fascination with villains. Some of the most fun in writing is making the villain. Making them sympathetic but still utterly despicable, or if you want a villain who can be redeemed, making them sympathetic and misguided.

I generally view the idea of making a POV character in a story a villain incredibly fascinating though I rarely see it. The only examples I can think of as of right now being Walter White, and Tyrion Lannister from Breaking bad.

In my own book I actually have the villain as a main character/pov character. He shares about as many as any other POV character I would say. Though I have to say he is one of the most complicated to write, because I have to keep a balance of not revealing to much of his plans to the reader.

Beyond the careful balance you need to strike, there's the worry that the villain will become stale due to the reader having so much time inside their head.

My question for you is, how would you write from the POV of a villain, and how do you think you would strike that balance. (I'm hoping that seeing how other people would do it, that it may help me).

(P.S. Sorry if I was rambling throughout that, I took my ADHD meds so I'm having a hard time putting it all into coherent words.)

I'm sure most of us here have a fascination with villains. Some of the most fun in writing is making the villain. Making them sympathetic but still utterly despicable, or if you want a villain who can be redeemed, making them sympathetic and misguided.

I generally view the idea of making a POV character in a story a villain incredibly fascinating though I rarely see it. The only examples I can think of as of right now being Walter White, and Tyrion Lannister from Breaking bad.

In my own book I actually have the villain as a main character/pov character. He shares about as many as any other POV character I would say. Though I have to say he is one of the most complicated to write, because I have to keep a balance of not revealing to much of his plans to the reader.

Beyond the careful balance you need to strike, there's the worry that the villain will become stale due to the reader having so much time inside their head.

My question for you is, how would you write from the POV of a villain, and how do you think you would strike that balance. (I'm hoping that seeing how other people would do it, that it may help me).

(P.S. Sorry if I was rambling throughout that, I took my ADHD meds so I'm having a hard time putting it all into coherent words.)

Hi, I need tips for writing through writers block, mainly because lately this is what usually happens:

I will sit at my desk staring at my computer monitor for sometimes hours, write a couple words, delete them, then if I have made any progress I usually delete it the next writing session.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any tips.

I mainly ask this because I've never actually seen it before. I think it would be fascinating to read from the perspective of one. I'm thinking of a Dark fantasy book genre wise. I'm thinking with multiple POVs besides the Jester.

I feel as though in fantasy in specific, coming from the POV of a Jester would be quite interesting. Especially when it comes to historical jesters as they typically were either exceptionally witty or they were considered strange or odd. Usually due to a deformity of some kind.

Taking that into account it also allows for a wide variety of what could possibly be considered odd.

Example: In a culture obsessed with beauty, grace, and litheness a Jester who was large, hulking and clumsy and ugly would entirely fit the setting. Hell with that it would be a great twist villain if done right.

Beyond the variety possible, it would allow for a very interesting POV, this character would be intrenched in politics but not really seen in the dance of it. It would make for a great villain or a fun hero. Hell there are a couple ways I could think of to make a Jester MC who is not comedic once so ever.

I'm just curious on why there isn't any or at least not that I've seen. If you all have any examples I'd be glad to see any. Also do any of you have a Jester in your own story that is important.

I haven't really seen very many villain/morally protagonists in LitRPG. But I really find reading from the perspective of a villain. I'd prefer if they had at least some what of a code, but I prefer those ones who are willing to do what is necessary against the enemy.

Main reason I want this is because often times it seems like the moral choice in LitRPG is always the stupid one. So I'd like to see one where they actually choose the smart/morally grey or evil choice just to see if I'd actually like it better than the regular morally upright and righteous MC.

Edit: Just for clarification here are a few books that stand out where the morality of the MC frustrated me personally.

Jason from He Who Fights with Monsters, he kind of just made me angry because of his hypocrisy.

Arlo from Mage Tank, love it but just a little frustrating.

A few others which I'll put in if I remember.

Edit 2:

Primal Hunter is close to what I want but I didn't find the MC very compelling.

Edit 3:

Oh I know something that fits really well, I really enjoy Dreamer's Throne by Seth Ring, and it sort of has a morally grey character, in fact he'd be seen as a villain from multiple other POVs so I feel like that's very similar to what I'd like.

Seems like such a common thing in litrpg for the main character to be the worst part of the story. I do understand that people can have a different taste than me and im fine with that its just so often that these massively popular books have a main character that makes me want to gauge my eyes out with a spoon. The main examples that come to my mind being Jason from He Who Fights With Monsters, Arlo from Mage Tank, Jake from Primal Hunter, etc.

I can put up with most of them, for example the humor and story of Mage Tank more or less make up for any short comings the main character has.

But it does just seem like a super common thing that LitRPG has a problem with making likeable mcs.