u/Thomas20021023

Just realized that Nanook healing himself doesn't NECESSARILY break his Primum Mobile

Just realized that Nanook healing himself doesn't NECESSARILY break his Primum Mobile

So this moment has been kinda... controversial in the HSR community. Nanook healing from a scratch left by Phainon after he incinerated himself seems like it goes against the idea of Aeons being unable to diverge from their Primum Mobile. I mean, he's Destruction. He should destroy and only destroy, right?

Well, uh... not exactly.

A point some people tend to not exactly ignore, but certainly gloss over, is the nature of Paths as described to us. Yes, they are concepts given form as sources of power... but they're very specifically philosophical concepts. They were never these hyper-literal ideas that only work one specific way, there's a wide variety of means that one could use to follow a given Path. Voracity eats for many different reasons with many different endgoals, Preservation protects for many different reasons with many different endgoals, so on and so forth.

Destruction is, more than likely, the greatest example of this. It is directly shown through Amphoreus that the ultimate extreme of every Path is it turning into a form of Destruction, even ones that directly conflict with it on paper like Preservation or Abundance. And it makes sense; ideas about destroying the world to "remake it in your own image" or "have something better rise from the ashes"... are still ideas that revolve around destruction as their core.

If protection and healing can ultimately become destruction, then why would Nanook healing himself be breaking his Primum Mobile? Perhaps we've simply been misunderstanding what his Primum Mobile actually is.

u/Thomas20021023 — 3 days ago

Zephyro and Welt working together VS... (Spoilers for Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, Future Saga chapter 4)

Could Welt, Zephyro, and their united black and white hole powers defeat Future's Doom, the true final boss of Xenoverse 2 and a living black hole in its own right?

u/Thomas20021023 — 1 month ago

Zephyro, the Scorching Flare VS Koron, the Void Dragon

Koron is from Monster Girl Quest: Paradox, for those unaware.

One of the Sixteen Phenomena of Ruin (all of whom are universe destroyers at bare minimum), and arguably the strongest in terms of straight up combat ability, wielding both holy and dark power and even being able to unite them into the power of Chaos. The white spear is the Longinus, a holy weapon that is effectively a seraph-class angel in its own right; the sword of darkness is a weapon shaped from Koron's own dark power.

...She is also effectively the unholy lovechild of Goku memes and Destiny's Sword Logic. She loves to fight strong opponents, and if you're too weak, she'll just straight up kill you, because when her mom told her "only the strong survive", what she took away from that was "the weak shouldn't exist".

Hopefully other people here can better explain the BS at her disposal, because I am not feeling up for sifting through all her lore to find and tell you exactly what she was shown to pull off.

u/Thomas20021023 — 2 months ago

How powerful do you think Luka (Monster Girl Quest: Paradox) would be in the universe of Honkai Star Rail? Is he merely a Pathstrider, or can he give even Aeons a run for their money?

u/Thomas20021023 — 2 months ago

Eight comes down onto New Eridu with all of her Dead Filament in tow. How much damage can she cause, and could something like a Void Hunter subdue her?

Am totally not asking this because Eight's final boss form looks like an Ethereal (no seriously look it up)

u/Thomas20021023 — 4 months ago

By current, I of course mean as they are as of chapter 46.

So Rapi... is Red Hood Rapi with Seven Dwarves Zero, as per usual (sadly didn't get any new buffs). Anis both has the expansive armament Star and knows its full-ish capabilities in regards to energy absorption and manipulation. And Neon has both her new body that's "immune to everything" (can still be physically damaged but resists/is immune to pretty much anything else) and her new Big Freaking Gun. The Commander is also included with his healing factor and nanomachine-destroying blood.

The settings are:

  1. New Eridu (ZZZ)
  2. Teyvat (Genshin)
  3. HI3 part 1 Earth
  4. Belobog
  5. Penacony
  6. Planarcadia (so far)

I skipped Amphoreus because that is a very particular scenario and there is no way in hell they are surviving Irontomb.

Particularly curious about the ZZZ and HI3 settings with Neon's immunities.

u/Thomas20021023 — 4 months ago

From what I could gather, GGZ Bronya is just a stigmata awakened human from start to finish, never becoming a Herrscher or anything comparable. While yes, GGZ stigmata are tied into what the wielder would be as a Herrscher (from what I can recall), they're a very limited version of that and in no way scale to actual Herrschers. Cyber Phantom is explicitly an alternate version, specifically HI3.

Compare this to HI3 Bronya, who not only shows up in a GGZxHI3 crossover as Cyber Phantom as mentioned above, but surpasses the strength she had in that form to a degree that damn near isn't comparable. Any technology GGZ Bronya pulls out in a fight, HI3 Bronya would just copy and upgrade via the authority of Reason - the single most busted Herrscher authority besides Finality when at its full potential, as Bronya wields it as the Herrscher of Truth. If we are to compare HI3 Herrschers to the "replacement" mechanics of GGZ's Herrscher powers, HI3 Bronya effectively gets to cheat her way into having more "replacement directions" than she does naturally via the ability to freely recreate Divine Keys.

So yeah, while things aren't as bad as with Era ZERO Kevin, the problem here is that HI3 Bronya just becomes so absurdly cracked while GGZ Bronya is severely limited in her capabilities by comparison. Being just a human, even one with an awakened stigmata, just won't cut it here.

u/Thomas20021023 — 4 months ago