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"genuine question" 🤣👎 = genuinely dishonest and bad faith.

Why are vegans so dishonest? And this is even after i mentioned my food criteria, where this vegan cultist straightaway use it against me while ignoring my criteria (as expected) and go off into a "misrepresented hypothetical morality discussion".

Vegans don't seem to be aware that "If logical arguments can make one become a vegan, then logical arguments can also make one leave it" 🤷‍♀️ Yet they can't stop crying "i don't understand how anyone isn't a vegan / leave veganism after knowing vegan propaganda".

Proving once again, vegan cultists are so triggered they have zero critical thinking. All they care about is their loaded opinions and misrepresentations to "win". (can't ever win when it doesn't apply in reality) 🐘🐼🐒🦅🦝😼🐶🐭👨👩

This vegan commenter posted that he is "not even a vegan", then exploited this to criticize and insult non-vegans and anti-vegans that :
- we have "no arguments" against veganism 🤡,
- we are "weak willed" to become vegans 🤡,
- and misrepresent that we "blame vegans" 🤡.

Basically a liar and dishonest manipulator and a coward to hide behind "i am not a vegan" so he can use the status of non-vegan to attack us from our position, and he don't have to defend his vegan cultist position.

This is the famous veganism activism 😄

Of course he fooled and exploited quite a lot of veganism supporters and vegans who believed him. Here's a vegan response :

"Vegan here, just wanna say thank you for being honest about not being vegan. BTW: I used to say the exact same thing (the 3 'excuses' above)"

Not my first time encountering this. This is another proof of how dishonest and immoral vegans are willing to be, believing their delulu goals justify immoral means 🙂👎

This is why veganism is capable of producing these immoral and harmful values, deception and manipulation. This goes to any non-vegan that supports veganism ideology as well. Equally delulu like a vegan 😄

Saw this video today posted by a vegan OP to a tik tok sub for activism.

Video is about setting up Elwood dog meat stand at college campuses tour for shock value, ragebait and activism.

Of course OP didn't say anything to give context or intention.

"Meat Eater" larping actor guy here slipped up and let off a slight smile at 0:19 and 0:20, almost laughed.

"Get that camera out of my face" *proceeds to look and talk directly into the camera.

Unnatural over reaction for too long.

Fking cringe the things dishonest vegans are willing to do 🤣

Even though she is dramatic on screen, but i believed she is genuinely emotional about leaving the veganism cult mental prison, at least.

The best is how vegans are annoyed and they keep invalidating everything she said to make themselves feel good and morally superior (as if it matters to mommytang 🤣)

They use the usual wrong assumptions and labels of "pReTeNdInG", "pErFoRmAtIvE", "nEvEr VeGaN", "oNlY pLaNt BaSeD", "dOeSn'T cArE aBoUt AnImAlS" (she did care).

Her channel is about food, so recording herself eating is just what she does. just that she is eating meat now, as expected. Nothing performative nor pretending about it.

And vegans hate these exvegan influencers that they don't want to hear their news or give them any attention so they hope their names die off. So I am doing my part to keep mommytang's name alive longer 🙂

These exvegans are more proof of how veganism will fail eventually regardless of motivation, which happens to most vegans. Every little bit helps to annoy vegans 👍

No one ever said nor expects vegans "owe the world physical fitness." That is a dishonest narrative and denial of reality.

The reason why we have these expectations and use it against vegans is because vegans always emphasize on how healthy vegan diet is and you have social media influencers and redditors going around different subs to troll and argue that they have "no health issues", bloodwork is "all good", those who gym will say they got lots of muscles and fitness. And you keep preaching these narratives.

That's why. You mean you didn't know, or you are intellectually dishonest?

Vegans doing these activism and promotions are the cause of your vegans' problems of how the world perceives vegans. Thankfully there are a lot more malnourish vegans than fit vegans to prove you wrong, regardless of the world's perception of vegans.

I don't care if you are healthy as a vegan, because we can also be healthy without being a vegan, and a lot easier to stay healthy due to the wide range of food available.

But if you are not, it is 100% your vegan diet problem that originates from your veganism cult thinking. That's the facts and truth. Stop pushing the blame on the world for the problems vegans themselves created.

It's laughable that some vegan just spent 3 days with AI to try to create a new vegan website for others to read up on either :
knowledge arguments (left side) or
emotional arguments (right side).

i will just show few parts in pictures for example. Couldn't bother to read any of them as they are just the same old emotionally loaded dishonest narratives 🥱

As for the knowledge side, it doesn't matter because animals and its products are food. We don't stop producing clean drinkable water or build hospitals just because the costs are "high". Duh 🙄

Ultimately vegans just want you to stop using and eating animals, based on their opinions.

Vegans don't actually care primarily about all these environment and diet and science and data stuff. They only care about using all these stats against you for debate/argument purposes only, and to justify their opinions. For the rest of us in the world, there is no need to justify to vegans why we eat animals, eggs, milk, honey. We are just eating food.

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So I throw all those mumbo jumbo arguments into AI to tell me in summary how true/accurate each side is :

Emotional argument (Right side)
AI : Overall, this side mixes accurate facts, disputed interpretations, emotional rhetoric, oversimplifications, and some outright misleading statements. Most of the citations are to real papers or organizations, but many of the conclusions go well beyond what those sources actually claim. (which means misrepresentations, dishonesty)

I'd roughly score it as:

• Scientific facts: 7.5–8/10
• Accuracy of interpretation: 5.5–6/10
• Objectivity: 2–3/10
• Rhetoric presented as fact: Very common throughout

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Knowledge argument (Left side)
AI : This "knowledge" version is noticeably better than the "heart/emotional" version because it relies more on data and fewer insults (LoL). However, it still has the same recurring problem:

"Most of the underlying studies are real, but the website often overstates what they prove or presents contested conclusions as settled facts." (which means misrepresentations, dishonesty)

I'd roughly score it as:

• Scientific facts: 8.5/10
• Accuracy of interpretation: 6.5–7/10
• Objectivity: 4/10
• Rhetoric presented as fact: common throughout

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😄 As expected lmao, veganism is full of rhetoric, rhetoric, rhetoric, misrepresentations, dishonesty.

This is a recent crash out. And here's the recent interview if you are interested. 29:00 is where he talks about no longer being vegan : https://youtu.be/ycJ0Ke_Gik0?t=1733

It doesn't even matter that he said he went vegan for animals, and that after leaving veganism, he still won't eat industrial farmed animals or dairy. Vegans just hate and dismiss, because they don't actually care about animal welfare and everything vegan that he did, his recipes and what he promoted and achieved are no longer "valid" lmao. This cult is so silly and insensible 😂

I am glad this keeps happening to vegans, and I am happy that Gaz Oakley has grown as a person, engages critical thinking and discovered that veganism is flawed, illogical and doesn't make sense and found meaningful life. Meaningful life that hateful vegans with no empathy and compassion will never experience.