That's the point I get majority of the time whenever I'm in a vegan space and they sniff out that I'm an omnivore, I don't even have to be in a debate to get this.
"genuine question" 🤣👎 = genuinely dishonest and bad faith.
Why are vegans so dishonest? And this is even after i mentioned my food criteria, where this vegan cultist straightaway use it against me while ignoring my criteria (as expected) and go off into a "misrepresented hypothetical morality discussion".
Vegans don't seem to be aware that "If logical arguments can make one become a vegan, then logical arguments can also make one leave it" 🤷♀️ Yet they can't stop crying "i don't understand how anyone isn't a vegan / leave veganism after knowing vegan propaganda".
Proving once again, vegan cultists are so triggered they have zero critical thinking. All they care about is their loaded opinions and misrepresentations to "win". (can't ever win when it doesn't apply in reality) 🐘🐼🐒🦅🦝😼🐶🐭👨👩
ow leaving veganism saved my height, weight, and mental health (158cm/43kg -> 172cm/62kg at 18)
Hey everyone my name is devrim
I wanted to share my story here in hopes that it might resonate with someone who is currently struggling with veganism or hesitant to make a change.
During my time as a vegan, my health hit rock bottom. I was stuck at 158 cm (5'2") and weighed a miserable 43 kg (94 lbs). (Doctors said it was impossible for me to grow taller.) I was constantly sick with chronic respiratory infections that took weeks and rounds of antibiotics to clear up. My mental health was in shambles, and my body simply wasn't developing.
At 17-18, I decided enough was enough and completely pivoted my nutrition toward a raw/animal-based primal approach—focusing heavily on raw milk, raw eggs, quality meats, and fats.
The transformation in my body and mind has been nothing short of surreal:
Growth & Weight: I grew from 158 cm to 172 cm (5'7") and put on nearly 20 kg of healthy weight (now sitting at 62 kg / 136 lbs). My body finally had the bioavailable building blocks (D3, K2, cholesterol, animal protein) it desperately needed during puberty.
Immunity: Infections that used to wipe me out for weeks are gone. Recently, when I felt a respiratory issue coming on, I fueled my body with raw dairy and eggs, and recovered completely in just 2 days without any medications.
Mental Health & Diseases: My brain fog, anxiety, and psychological struggles completely vanished once I introduced proper fats and vitamins (B12, DHA, choline) back into my diet. I also reversed 3 chronic health conditions I was dealing with.
Shifting away from plant-based dogmas and giving my body proper, bioavailable animal nutrition genuinely gave me my life and potential back.
I currently teach people about proper nutrition online, and I've helped several people overcome veganism.
So, in 2018 I decided to become vegan, I'd already been a vegetarian for 6 months before this. I got help from my doctor and a nutritionalist as my health has always been a bit on the unstable side (you can thank EDS for that)
With the help of professionals I started my new way of life, and from the beginning things were rough, to meet my daily calorie needs I was haveing to eat huge portions of food, and I rapidly lost 2 stone (I started the vegan diet at 10 stone, that dropped me to 8, I'm 5 foot 9 inches)
Every blood test I had I was told the same thing, more protine, more fat, more iron, so my nutritionalist adjusted my diet plan.
Come 2019 all my clothes were hanging off me, my doctor told me I needed to go back at least to a vegetarian diet as now I was 7.5 stone. I refused, parroting how I wouldn't hurt the animals and I was better than that, so I cut off my doctor and just kept talking to the vegan nutritionalist, hoping he would understand that I didn't want to stop, and he continued to work with me.
Then, the cramps started, my hair (that I had recently bleached) started falling out, I was cold all the time, exhausted but struggling to sleep, it got harder and harder to eat all the food I needed to eat to stick to my diet.
Then I collapsed in my local supermarket, woke up in an ambulance, was taken to the hospital.
They ran many tests, asked many questions and spoke to me bluntly. My iron and B12 were extremely low, my cells weren't carrying oxygen properly and there was a good chance I had organ damage due to the high level of keytones in my blood, my body was canabaliseing it's self to keep me alive.
I spent almost a month in the hospital, first on an NG tube because I was scared to eat proper food, then after working with a nutritionalist (at the hospital, not the one I'd seen before) and a Therepist we introduced animals products back into my diet.
There was a lot of stool samples, a colonoscapy, so many blood draws.
The docs said due to my EDS and IBS my body struggled to brake down and process plant matter effectively, and I'd basically been starving myself slowly this whole time.
It was the wake up call I needed, I couldn't die and leave my daughter behind, so I started eating properly again, then when I was a healthy waight I started working out. I'm now 13 stone of mainly muscle, am fitter than a fiddle and a happy ominivore.
(Notes - it was suggested by the mods that I cover my face, I've done so in a way that shows how thin I was as well as I can while keeping myself covered)
Veganism is not one size fits all, it will not save the world, and for many of us isn't possible at all - we evolved as omnivorous, and we should respect our body and fule it properly.
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Frozen egg yolk shredded over the tartare. It was so smooth and delicious. First time having frog legs and i would absolutely eat them again 💯
Quite a few vegans I talk to claim that I have an ideology that consists of torturing animals.
What are they talking about?
Is atheism a religion?
Not having an ideology is not an ideology.
Talk to me again after lunch.
All these people can think about is raping animals. It's kind of rapey.
People that argue humans are animals too, appear unintelligent with an inability to understand context. Yes, humans are animals in the sense we are in the kingdom animalia. But "animal" has a few definitions.