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A question regarding unconditional election.

Not reformed but I have a genuine question that I would like to understand. Under the notion of "unconditional election" if I am not elect am I just out? Like if I have a desire to follow God but I am not part of the elect then too bad? Or is the position more that if I have any desire to follow God that makes me elect?

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Adam and Eve

Full transparency I am not LDS but I am trying to understand LDS beliefs.  I am very confused about the “Fall forward” of Adam.  From my understanding of the LDS perspective Adam was given two commands "multiply" and "do not eat from the tree".  However Adam wouldn’t know how to multiply unless he ate from the tree (2 Nephi 2).  So in this case God gave Adam conflicting commands, either Adam could obey and not eat the fruit therefore disobeying the command to multiply, or Adam could gain the knowledge of how to multiply but would need to disobey the command to not eat the fruit.  So in either case God forced Adam to disobey him.  From the LDS website sin is defined as “To commit sin is to willfully disobey God’s commandments”.  

 

To me the logical conclusion then is that God forced Adam to commit a sin by giving two competing commands which could not be simultaneously followed.   Is this the LDS conclusion or am I missing something?

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u/Timely_Influence2024 — 25 days ago