u/Tiny_Dot4202

I can’t be the only one who through the manifestation teachings I have accidentally kind of learned to suppress my negative thoughts. We learned negative thoughts are bad at some point, and I think I’ve just trained myself to the point where I don’t even really consciously think the words anymore that are negative as much as I have emotions that are like full of tension and discomfort and I often don’t fully understand what’s behind them and what I’m learning to do is to put words to those emotions and then I watch them float away like clouds because once I’m aware of them I can let them pass.

I’m just curious to see if anybody else has gone through this or if maybe you’re experiencing lots of negative emotions and you don’t necessarily notice thoughts coming with them. Personally, I realized that there are thoughts I’ve just been suppressing them.

If you’re dealing with this I recommend letting the thoughts have words again.

I’ve always been big on allowing all the negative stuff in your mind to come to the surface because once you’re aware that’s where you have power but I always think wow I don’t have that many negative thoughts but I do have a lot of negative emotions and now I’m starting to see why.

The real steps of manifesting that I’ve come to realize:
Erase the gap. There is no “over there.” There is only now. The desired state is available to awareness now.
Live and let live. Allow the human character to tell whatever story it wants without trying to manage every thought, feeling, or circumstance.

This is actually a lot simpler than it sounds so let me break it down.

1: you are the I am stop seeing yourself as the identity who is having the thoughts. The thoughts just come you’re not really the one controlling them. So when thoughts come up that are telling a story that contradict your desire, you don’t need to control them change them or do anything but just not agree with them. All you need to do is just not agree. You don’t need to believe or change the belief because you where I am you were the awareness. Awareness already is aware of all things. Think about it you hear the contradictory story to what you want. You can just simply say nope to yourself and then two seconds later imagine what you want. That in itself, is you being aware of your desire. You need to stop identifying with the thinker. This is especially true when it doesn’t even work for you. The one who thinks they are manifesting is the character or identity and they are actually not manifesting. You are as awareness. So the voices saying whether something can happen or not whether something makes sense or not. It’s just a character who has no control over the end results. It’s just a game of am I going to agree and put my focus on what the character is saying or am I going to realize I am awareness and realize the character can keep going as long as they want saying whatever they want and you just don’t have to agree with it. The need to try to control what the character is doing or saying it’s just not necessary.

2: this was already talked about at the end of the last step, but the character will try to manifest with effort. It’ll convince you that you’ve seen results before with effort and I used to think the exact same thing I used to be like oh my gosh, I’ve seen results when I persisted and when I really looked at what happened every single time I saw a manifestation I did step one which was stop agreeing with the story I didn’t want. The part that people get confused that is they try to change the story consciously like for themselves to believe the new story. That’s the part You don’t actually need to do. There’s no point in changing the story you can if you want to, but it becomes a game of the character or identity trying to control the manifestation. And that’s exactly why you’re not getting it or you’re getting bread crumbs or you’re getting hot and cold.

You’re probably thinking oh I’ve seen results just like I thought was and you are seeing results, but you’re not seeing them for the reason you think you are. You’re not seeing them because you put a ton of effort in and persisted. You’re seeing results because you drop that story that doesn’t work. A lot of people do this with a lot of effort, but you don’t even need to the only work that needs to be done to drop the story is to literally realize that if you are, I am awareness the identity is just a character and you don’t have to agree with everything. The character says.. The character is playing its role and it will continue to think whatever it wants to think but that doesn’t define what can happen or not happen.
So you change the story and you somehow get out of your way long enough for it to happen. You think oh but I did put a ton of effort in what tends to happen is you put so much effort in that you exhaust yourself. Some people never see the result because they never truly stop agreeing with that old story and they put the effort in and make themselves miserable in the process.

Let me clarify step one is not about believing. It’s literally just about not blindly agreeing. It’s about thinking to yourself even though you’re not even a thinker. That’s just the best way to explain it you think to yourself. This is not the ultimate truth and you allow the possibility that it can happen for you if you don’t already believe it will. That is enough. And I’m saying that is enough from my own experience.

If you’re tired of the effort, if you’re tired of the opposite end of the spectrum people saying you don’t have to do anything well neither are true you don’t have to put a ton of effort in and you also don’t have feel like you have to try to do nothing.

I’m here to answer questions about this in the comments, not through messages, please. I know this whole non-duality is very confusing. We are on this sub because we believe in Neville‘s teachings about I am but so many of us. Ignore the I am part.

The I am awareness part is the key. It’s the part where you realize you are all the things. You are the different identities. You are the different desires that you want the different outcomes. But most importantly, you’re the one who was aware of all of it.

**Disclaimer: Someone commented on one of my posts recently about how emotions do manifest (I was saying they don’t) and that’s what Neville was saying and it contradicts what he said to say that emotions don’t manifest and honestly, I’m surprised to still be hearing this from people. I really think people need to actually go read/listen his lectures and books and I don’t mean one book I mean like go read a bunch of his books. I thought that was a requirement to even post in this sub. Clearly people are not doing that, but I really recommend that you do.**

Neville wasn’t saying that the emotion of excitement, happiness, or euphoria manifests things. He was talking about the feeling of reality or the feeling of already being. That’s why he repeatedly tells people to assume the feeling of the wish fulfilled. The key word there is fulfilled. A fulfilled desire is usually quiet, natural, and ordinary, not emotionally intense.

He has talked about moods affecting manifestation, and when he talks about mood, he is talking about states of conscious like the state of being rejected the state of feeling loved, etc. again not emotions, but emotions can be built into a story that become the state of rejection or the state of feeling unloved. And that sense yes if you continue to feel something and allow that to become an assumption emotions are gonna manifest. But the feeling of sadness itself does not keep you from your desire. It’s your assumption that it does that would keep you from your desire.

Guys it doesn’t even make sense to say that you would need to need to feel a specific emotion to manifest… it’s not to say you can’t use emotion to manifest, but the idea that that is the secret is just false.

Think about it you can have the identity of being a girlfriend. A girlfriend can feel really sad. A girlfriend can be really happy one day a girlfriend can feel a range of emotions and still have her boyfriend she still is the one having the boyfriend. A boyfriend doesn’t stop loving his girlfriend because she has a bad day. Having something comes with a range of emotions. It also comes with a set of identities or states of consciousness that decide whether that relationship is generally positive or negative. Like you can have a relationship with someone and feel sad a lot but still believe your love because you’re in the state of love. Because the sadness doesn’t necessarily mean it’s related to the relationship. Or you can feel like you’re ugly, but you feel like other people think you aren’t states can be super complicated in that way. If I am in the state often of being rejected, I could still be in a relationship, but that relationship is gonna be kind of miserable for me because they can choose me, but then make me feel rejected. I can feel chosen and often being in the state of chosen, but then my partner could still have a bad day and be mean to me. So the idea that having something implies a certain emotion doesn’t really make sense because you could use any emotion to manifest having something. The reason Neville says to use naturalness or fulfillment is because when you have something, it feels normal generally that’s not always the case you can be really excited about having something that generally comes in the beginning of having it, but that’s harder to generate. You can’t always generate excitement, but it’s pretty easy to imagine a scene way in the future where you have something and it’s normal for you.

Now that said, states of consciousness manifest. You can be in a really good mood having a really good day and getting in a car accident. Why? Because you manifest from states of being… states of consciousness… you manifest your state based on your assumptions… and yes, you can use an emotion to create an assumption. Often, people do this in a very negative way. I don’t feel good so something awful has to happen. I feel really good so good things must happen or you could say I’m having a really good day. Where is the other shoe gonna drop? But at the end of the day, it’s not the emotion is the assumption made from the emotion.

Let’s really think about this if you are trying to manifest a car… and you think you need to feel a specific emotion to manifest that car. What emotion do you think that car represents? Most people would be like oh excitement, happiness, joy…. Guys, do you not think you’ll have a bad day with that car? Do you not think that some days you’re not even gonna think about it while you’re driving it? Do you not think that some days you’re gonna be bored and have the car? Is it impossible that you might lose something really meaningful and then be driving the car? Does that mean you lose the car? No… so why the heck would you need to feel that one emotion out of all the emotions of having the car? I can drive a car that I own and feel any emotion and still own that car. But if I build that emotion into an assumption that becomes a state like I lose everything good that does manifest if persisted in. Can you manifest a car by imagining excitement? Sure. Why does that not work for some people? Because if you’re in a state when you think about your desire where it feels like it’s far away imagining excitement it’s just gonna like likely make it feel farther away…. It’s different for everyone so it just depends on the state you’re coming from when you think about the desire. But you would be better off, imagining having the car on a very normal boring day than imagining it being exciting because that would make it feel less far away for you.

I shared this with someone on another post, but I wanted to share this because I think this is really helpful in terms of how you see any negative thought feeling or circumstance in your reality. So I and fearless when it comes to these things coming up now because I chose to view them as like me purging out the old self.

So I become clear about what I want and then I go into awareness mode, which is always there obviously it’s just I focus more on observing my thoughts. And once you observe your thoughts, it’s very clear. What thoughts come from someone who has what you want or can get what you want. And if you have thoughts that come from an identity that doesn’t match the one who gets what you want you just see it as the old self purging or detoxing or coming up to the surface to be released.

So I’ll be manifesting something and I’ll recognize a thought and I’ll be like oh yeah come up to the surface come on up I see you I know who you are. That’s not who I’m chocking to be anymore.. and I let myself feel the feeling think the thought be upset about it, but with the awareness that it’s just the old self dying. It’s really important to see it this way because I have a lot myself to feel things from a powerless place where I felt like it had control over me and it doesn’t have the same effect.

So when you start focusing on something that doesn’t align with your current reality, suddenly every single thought feeling circumstance that doesn’t match the reality that you want is going to be very painfully obvious to you you’re gonna think all the thoughts that contradicted you’re gonna steal all the feelings that contradicted you’re gonna see all the circumstances that contradict it. This is not coincidental when you become aware of a new identity of having something that you’re not used to having suddenly the old identity stands out. It feels like tension. If you’re just in the identity, you don’t have the same tension because there’s no back-and-forth. There’s nothing to contrast. But as soon as you hold a new identity, the old one is something you’re just gonna be more aware of. Most people freak out and think that that’s a bad thing but the truth is that the old man has to die like Neville says, and if you see every single thing that doesn’t fit the new reality as just being released, so the old man can die. It becomes really easy to see it from an empowering place.

None of it is scary, all of it is worth going through to get to the other side.

Just wanted to share this because I think this is a really empowering way to see it. I think it’s really easy to get caught up in the negative emotions and thoughts especially the negative circumstances that are in front of you. You think you’re doing something wrong, but the truth is what if you’re doing something right? What if it’s coming out just to be released and if you can sit there and see it as something that is good because you’re going to be allowing it to release than it is a good thing.

I made a post yesterday about your relationship to your desire being the real thing you should focus on rather than just getting the thing because I think that’s really important in manifesting and a lot of people don’t realize that they have a relationship of lack to their desire.

I wanna explain why impatience, longing, deep desire, obsession, constantly thinking about, needy, desperate behavior do not stop a manifestation.

Think about food, most of us are blessed enough that we have a relationship to food where we feel like we have access to it easily. That is the relationship. I have to food. And I really think about that and I’m like sometimes I am absolutely desperate for food because I am so hungry but I still get food. Sometimes I long for food and I still get it. Sometimes I’m extremely impatient and I want it now and I still get it. Sometimes I think about it constantly, but I still get to eat. I say this because way too many people think that you can’t be desperate, needy obsessively thinking about your desire or impatient about your desire. You could have whatever feelings you want about your desire because emotions don’t freaking manifest.

If I have a relationship to food where I see it as accessible then it doesn’t matter how I feel about food in any particular moment I still see it as accessible and that is a relationship I have to it.

People get things they’re desperate for all the time.

People get things they are impatient about all the time.

People are desperate and needy and obsessively think about things and get them all of the time.

It is the relationship you have to the thing you want that is going to determine if you get it a.k.a. the state you occupy in relation to the desire. When you think about your desire, you step into a state and if the state is of lack, you don’t get the desire or you get pieces and scraps of it. You get hot and cold.

So putting something on a pedestal is often a way of having a relationship with lack to your desire. But how do you actually stop seeing the desire from lack? You use imagination. Imagine can be any sensory imaginable act. So when you say affirmations, that is an auditory imaginary act… when you visualize that is a visual imaginary act and I’m sure that many of us have done really immersive imaginable acts where we use multiple senses. The point is you want to imagine the thing you want as plentiful, natural, and normal.

I know people are gonna say this: I have imagined being really excited about getting something and got it. I have imagined a scene or affirmed for something that wasn’t natural for me and got it…. This is because you already have a relationship to the desire that is not of lack. So if I really want a specific shirt at a store and I imagine getting the shirt and I imagine being super excited to get the shirt imagining being super excited about getting the shirt is not going to stop it from coming because the relationship to the desire is one of being able to have it’s one of accessibility. It can seem weird when you feel like something really “big” is accessible to you and you get it or you see someone else get something that’s really “big” but it’s because of the relationship they have to that desire.

I hope this makes sense.

I’m making this post because way too many people think that if you’re feeling bad all the time you can’t have what you want… false! Of course you want to try to feel good but if you’re in a place or something awful happened, you may not be able to get there for a while.. and let me tell you you can manifest the desire and the desire can be the thing that makes you feel better. It happened to me several times. I know people say like you have to feel better first, but that’s not true. You have to feel like they desire is accessible to you first.

Do you see your desire differently now than when you started manifesting it?

If the answer is no, you likely aren’t seeing much of anything show up in the 3-D. If you are then you’re probably not seeing much positive movement. So make the goal to see the desire differently. If you continue to make the goal the result you’re gonna continue to not get results and it’s because your relationship to the desire is one of lack.

If you think about things you’ve wanted in your life that came into your life when you stopped really caring about it. It’s not the fact that you let go that manifested that into your life later it’s the fact that you changed the relationship to your desire like often times we will take something off a pedestal and we won’t see it with lack anymore. But you can stop desiring something and still see it in lack. Example: every crush I had in high school, but one later on wanted me when I stopped seeing them as above me. But that one never came back because I continued to see him with lack. I continue to see him as someone who didn’t wanna talk to me. The relationship to the desire has to change.

How do you change the relationship to the desire?
All the techniques work you just have to find the one that actually gets you to see the desire differently. So instead of doing something to get results, do things to see the desire differently, change your relationship to the desire. If you see someone is above you, your goal is to use techniques to change that.

I had an ex-boyfriend who I really wanted to get back together with, but I saw him as someone who just wanted to be my friend and that he would only talk to me to be polite and he didn’t really care about me and he acted that way. Then I changed the story. I created a mantra about him that changed how I saw him. Does that mean a mantra is going to work for you? No it just depends on what actually makes you see the situation differently. Try different things out. Visualize affirm conversations whatever it’s all using your imagination. But do it with the goal to change how you see the desire not to get a result and I promise you this will make such a huge difference.

You know you’re doing something right when you change and the relationship to the desire changes you don’t necessarily know by seeing results you’ll know first by seeing yourself and your relationship to the desire change.

Let’s say you wanna manifest a relationship, but you have a lot of fears and doubts about having a happy relationship. Let’s say you have a lot of identities that you cling to that go against having that relationship like being rejected not feeling good enough, etc..

I really wanna ease your mind by saying that when you continuously use imagination to live in the end of your desire, you automatically shift to the states of consciousness where that desire can exist you literally change automatically to match the end.

Neville has said himself like, for example, in his Barbados story that when he had doubts, and when he was identifying in negative ways, he didn’t stop and try to work on those things he just kept living in the end and automatically things shifted for him to get what he wanted. Just the same I have experienced that I didn’t feel good enough for my desire. I had so many limitations and doubts and identities that I was holding onto and I didn’t have to fix any of them. All I had to do was continue using imagination to live in the end, and I naturally became the person who has what I want. There was no need needing to fix these deep rooted doubts. They just automatically shifted when I shifted an imagination consistently.

I hear a lot of people say things about fixing your nervou* system, doing shadow work all of that is a waste of time and a distraction from the desire in my opinion🫣 I don’t mean to be rude, but all I had to do was keep living in the end and imagination, and all of that stuff went away from me. All of the problems went away if you listen to Neville and what he talks about we overcomplicated so much.

You literally become the person who has it internally and externally as you continue to live in and occupy that state.

Examples:

If you wanna lose weight, you become the person naturally who does things to lose weight. I’ve heard so many stories of people who just randomly started to want to work out or they started to want to eat better and he was like a genuine desire inside of them suddenly because they kept imagining the end of what they wanted and then they shifted to meet it. It wasn’t like they had to force themselves to do stuff they didn’t wanna do. They just naturally wanted to do those things. I do want to add that I think you could manifest losing weight without doing any work, but I think our world shifts and reflects based on what we believe is possible and we can break through what we believe as possible more and more as we learned how to manifest better.

If you want to have a partner, but you just don’t believe that someone can love you that way because you have an experienced it before you just keep going to the end of that love that you want and what it looks like just having the desire gives you what you need to imagine and use imagination to experience it. You become a person who naturally feels loved who feels safe who feels like they can trust people. It just happens naturally, and I say this first hand as someone who thought that certain kinds of love were too good for me and I thought that magical love that I wanted didn’t exist. It wasn’t for me. But as I started to imagine the end of that love I naturally started to feel that real for myself. I naturally just felt safe.

The realization:
“I realized that I was unintentionally repeating a scene that implied the thing that I want was super hard to get.”

So I have a lot of doubt about the thing I’m manifesting and I was taking my whole radical honesty approach and imagining when I got the thing that I wanted, how exciting and what a miracle it was, but I wasn’t doing it intentionally because I know you’re not supposed to treat it like a miracle. The end is supposed to feel natural so I thought I was making the scene natural by including how surprising it is how much I didn’t believe it would happen. I was imagining telling my sister but the energy behind it was very much: Wow this is crazy that this happened. I was definitely not doing it intentionally…

Neville talks about how the words themselves you use and the like exact visuals and all that that you use in a scene are not the point, the point is the state behind it. So think about what kind of state is behind treating something like a miracle, treating something like you’re lucky you got it, you can’t believe it happened. I realized that I was unintentionally repeating a scene that implied the thing that I want was super hard to get.

Neville says that you don’t have to do belief work. You don’t have to try to convince yourself that you can have it. You don’t have to worry about whether you believe it or not it’s more about going to the end. In the end belief doesn’t matter because it’s already done anyways you don’t have to worry about how you’ll get there. Stop worrying about whether you believe it just go to the end.

My point is that you can imagine a scene that doesn’t feel believable to you. You can imagine it being super mundane, even if that doesn’t feel true for you at all and you do it to the point where you feel like you feel it really happened for you in that moment. Neville himself said he would have to keep bringing himself back to the end because he would question things and doubt things. He never once said work on the doubt he just said go to the end you’re already there.

Just be careful that your end isn’t the end of how impossible the thing you want is*** ***😅

Has anyone else realized that the only thing to do is go to the end? And how much we don’t do that in manifesting and how often our brain, the ego whatever you wanna call it convinces us to think about anything but the end it’s like when you wanna work out and you can convince yourself to do about anything but just work out. We literally spend so much time analyzing figuring it out, questioning, etc. rather than just focusing we make so many excuses to just not focus and that is literally all there is to do.

So I’m just curious if anybody else has come to this conclusion and stopped all the BS and just started going straight to the end.

Neville talks about this when he talks about trying to leave Barbados and how his logical mind was trying to give him so many reasons why he couldn’t leave in the time that he needed to and he just kept returning to the end because it’s about returning it doesn’t matter how many times you leave it’s about returning.

If you’re anything like me you’ve spent more time trying to convince yourself of your desire,
Trying to believe it and analyzing the process then actually experiencing it internally. So let me break down each one and you can see yourself in the ones you’re doing.

You try to convince yourself:
You are I AM and the god self can’t be fooled or tricked into anything. It’s never the goal anyways.
So now is the only moment, and this is why you never have to convince yourself it’s done or believe it’s coming. That would imply it’s not already done… that some future moment is the one you get it. And you can manifest from certainty of it coming you should never feel pressure to get to a place where you believe it’s coming or believe it’s done. You wouldn’t try to convince yourself of a rug you own being yours would you? It’s silly.

Pressure to do it right:
Any kind of pressure to “do this right” or “believe it” or “convince yourself” is from the doer, the ego, the analyzer, the controller (call it what you want it’s an identity that wants to control the manifestation and the identity doesn’t have the desire).

If you have noticed you wonder if you’re doing it right or feel the need for certainty you are using this identity discussed above. It’s simply you focusing on a reality where it’s not done. When you have something you can feel disbelief in it, you can be shocked that it’s happening. I know I have moments where I’m like, “woah what is happening right now?!”
If you have a rug and think “wow, I don’t believe I have this” you still have the rug. It’s not a dealbreaker. Instead of worrying about that doubt you would just move your attention to the spend dog having the rug.

The experience of having:
To experience having a rug (just an example) feel the the rug beneath your feet, smell the new rug smell, etc. you pull your focus from questioning, or any not having a rug focus to experiencing the having of the rug. This is so simple right? Well it’s the same with every desire.

Fixes:
I doubt the rug is mine… imagine the rug under your feet.
I don’t believe I will have the rug… imagine someone complimenting your rug.
I feel like I’m doing this wrong… imagine smelling the new rug smell.
Where is the rug?… imagine showing someone your new rug.

Notice I don’t mention emotions. Emotions are not the state. They are like weather changing constantly. Being is not an emotion. It is the experience of having. Being familiar to that experience=making it your dominant state.

States:
A state is not being sad, happy, or any emotions. Each state can experience any range of emotions. A state is: being a mother, being a doctor, being a girlfriend, being lucky, having abundance, etc. you can be a doctor and feel sad, happy, etc.

I can have a partner and feel insecure and not lose my partner immediately. Now if you use the emotion repeatedly to be slam one insecure for example… you can lose the state of being a partner and lose your relationship. The point of persisting in something manifests an outcome. Having a bad day doesn’t automatically pull you from a state long enough to manifest catastrophe.

On the flip side being happy for a few days because you’re excited about your desire isn’t going to necessarily manifest your desire if you haven’t changed states to the one who has the desire.

Sabbath: (it’s a real part of the process don’t overlook it)
So many people keep trying and trying when they need to stop and rest. The sabbath is the point where you back up and rest from trying. This can be a moment of your time or weeks of your time it depends on the desire. People think oh I never let go to manifest that or this… it only takes a moment sometimes. So don’t use that as a rule of thumb. If you have been trying for a long time and you truly feel familiar with your desire… maybe go into sabbath and stop the trying. Sometimes it’s that grip on the desire that’s keeping you from truly living from your end state long enough to make it manifest. Because you’re like.. where is it? And that’s not having it.

How do you know you’re ready?
You feel familiar enough with your desire that you could imagine having it now. Like the rig example: I can instantly imagine standing on the rug anytime I want. It’s familiar. Think of an item you own and how familiar it is to imagine having it. If you’re manifesting a person think of someone in your life regularly and how easy it is to think of them and talking to them and your dynamic. Now be as familiar with your desire and you can go into sabbath. It’s that simple. If you know it like the back of your hand you should back up and stop the effort.

Once you get to that point the only thing stopping it is you trying and not the fact that you won’t stop trying. The trying is from not having and at a certain point you know the state of having it enough that if you would just get out of the way and live your life for a bit it would manifest!

If you are thinking but I think of my desire constantly how do you stop trying?! You simply remind yourself when you think of the desire that’s you did all you need to do. You can imagine it quickly to remind yourself and move on with your day. Say that is enough. If it’s enough to just say I have it then great.

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I might add more here but I feel like these are the reasons people don’t get what they want.

There is no doing it wrong as long as you are having instead of not having. The problem isn’t imagining too much it’s what you do after with that ego brain. The analyzing the wondering the questioning. If you do any “work” let it be reminding yourself imagining is enough and move on. Imagination is the only reality. So if you are thinking you’re getting your desire in some future time… you don’t have it. There is no future time if you can’t have it now in imagination it’s never coming.