r/NevilleGoddard

Trying to manifest lottery!

Hello everyone, from the past few days I have been trying to manifest a lottery for my education and living expenses using the SATS technique but cant seem to find success as of now. Could yall tell me any techniques or what I might be doing wrong in this scenario and do after doing SATS do I fell good about winning it ,rest of the day or should I not remember that.

reddit.com
u/dinesh_747_ — 10 hours ago

ladder experiment success

The day before yesterday i watched randonmly a tiktok video which is the Neville Gddard's ladder experience. I have read the Secret and aware of law of attraction. I tried to do this experiment before fall asleep. I visualized an orange coloured ladder which placed in my home, but i work in another city and live in dormitary. Just now, i browse my wechat Moment, this is like twitter, a friend of mine post a text, he says that the ladder (in a form of icon) raised price. In China we use ladder to describe VPN which can browse google, youtube instead of 404 in the normal network. I haven't seen a ladder a few years maybe. That is incredible. Sorry for my poor grammar

reddit.com
u/hslljn1992 — 7 hours ago
▲ 87 r/NevilleGoddard+1 crossposts

Using the Law I Won a month of paid subscription of tradingview

Hello everyone today I would like to share my success story about winning a month of paid subscription of trading view via their competition that was held during this first two weeks of this month.(THE LEAP). I had participated in the competition knowing that I would win some prize( I wasn't specific about winning the first prize though) and every night prior to sleep used my imagination seeing my name in winner's list. I did it everyday during the competition and was completely relaxed about the outcome. Eventually after the competition got over the results were announced and today I received this mail. (screenshot attached)

u/Just-Break-2233 — 13 hours ago

Manifested my trip to Paris

So long story short, it was my dream to visit Paris. So when I discovered this sub, I wanted to use this law for going there. I visualised and visualised but I had no resistance like I was in the mindset that even if I don’t go I’ll be fine. And honestly I was not even regular with my visualisation . I would imagine myself in the streets of Paris and I let it go. And it took nearly 6-7 months to materialise in the 3d. And this delay was because the financial situation was quite down when I wanted to go to Paris but then eventually it happened. And I actually forgot about it that I had manifested it. It came to my mind just today so I thought of sharing it with you guys.
Also I have seen this thing that whenever I am obsessed with something , that thing doesn’t come true. Like I made a list of whatever I want and I wanted to grow taller and get rid of my birthmark and few other appearance related changes , that didn’t happen. I was so upset over it. But I was least concerned about this trip and this happened. Same with my current crush, I have obssessed to make things work with him and unfortunately it’s been a year and that person hasn’t reached out to me. Do share your stories and any thoughts on why my other manifestations didn’t come true and what helped you guys.

Ps: English is not my first language so pardon any grammatical errors.

reddit.com
u/Traditional_Term_752 — 12 hours ago

I know the law yet i still dont know how to make my manifestation come to an end

I know the law, my situation has gotten better yet it still not what i intended it to be. I can go for a week being in the state and thinking from the desire and then after 3d shows me that it is better but still not the final product i get doubts and fall out of the state. Now i dont even know how to get back, i get impatient, and im just fed up with the 3d not giving me the full manifestation even if im in the state at least for few days and other people get their manifestations even after doing sats once and spiraling. I just dont know what approach should i take to this matter, if you have any advices or posts that would help me feel like i get it again please

reddit.com
u/Ok_Scholar5675 — 10 hours ago
▲ 340 r/NevilleGoddard+3 crossposts

Living in the End Manifestation Challenge

I feel like I haven't done a manifestation challenge in a while so here we go! 7 Day Live from the End Manifestation Challenge is starting today!

For the next 7 days, every morning when you wake up or before you start your day, grab your journal and write as if you are journaling at the END of your day. You are not writing what you hope happens. You are writing from the version of you who already lived it. The goal is to train your mind to stop waiting and start identifying with the reality you want.

Rules:
• Write in past tense
• Date each entry with that day’s date + a nighttime timestamp (make it up - 11:11pm :P haha don't come for me)
• Write it like you’re reflecting on your day before bed
• Keep it natural, don’t overcomplicate it
• Do it every morning

Example:

May 20th, 11:11 PM

Today felt so good. My love texted me throughout the day and everything between us felt natural again. I felt so calm and secure instead of anxious. I also got an unexpected email about a job opportunity and it finally feels like things are moving in my favor. I ended the night feeling really grateful and relaxed.

Another example:

May 20th, 11:11 PM

I can’t believe how normal everything feels now. I spent the day feeling confident and productive. Business picked up, I had more energy, and I noticed how much easier it is becoming to think positively without forcing it. Everything feels like it’s unfolding naturally for me.

This challenge is not about convincing yourself. It’s about practicing the identity of the version of you who already has it. And remember, don't check the 3D after looking for signs! If it helps, read the previous day entry to get you back into the feeling.

Do this for 7 days consistently and watch how differently your mind starts responding to your reality! Also, if you want us (as in this community) to keep you accountable, comment and write your journal in the thread of your comment each day.

Who is in?

reddit.com
u/Egyptian_Queeni — 1 day ago

A long list of all my success

I saw another person make a list of their success and I wanted to do one too, I often forget how much success I have had :)

- I wanted to be in a particular friendship group in school (the cool popular group). The next term I got sat next to a member from that group in each of my classes and joined the friend group.

- After university all I wanted was a creative field 9-5 - I made a strict intention I would not take any other job, a month later my friend got me a super fun internship with a creative industry.

- I was desperate after my internship to find a creative local dream job, which I manifested and also wrote a full story on that in here

- 5 guys I wanted to come back, did in fact come back.

- I got a work form home job which let me travel loads, which was my intention for the year.

- manifested my mums cancer away. (I also wrote a long post on this)

- manifested my favourite singer to sing two of my favourite songs even though they were not her main ones and not on the set-list.

- manifested holidays to sooo many places, I traveled to seven locations I had in my vision board in a year.

- bumped into a old friend I wanted to reunite with

- A couple thousands of pounds

- Lots of clothing items I have wanted

Those are the main ones, I have other small daily ones but they are not as exciting. Let me know if you have any questions!

There are lots and lots of stuff I still want, so I wouldn’t say I’m a proper expert yet, but nice to look back at the successes I have had. As I often do forget, due to getting so caught up in my current manifestations.

reddit.com
u/Different-Cold1422 — 22 hours ago

A Recommendation - List the Things You Have Manifested Unconsciously

Since I began to read Goddard's work, I've been realizing how many things in my life I have manifested in the past long before I delved deeply into this subject. I feel that being aware of this helps me to be more aware of my power and how I'm now using it.

These are things I wanted to happen but didn't have a plan for them and didn't know it would naturally come about. All of them came about naturally - maybe not in the way I had hoped but they happened and I was able to experience them none the less.

  1. Homeschooling my child - I always wanted to but never felt I'd have the opportunity to until circumstances presented themselves to make this option one that his dad would agree to.
  2. Live in a foreign country - I always felt this was something I wanted to do and would enjoy/should do and circumstances unfolded to make this option feel like it was well supported. This was really unique because again, my son's father was not very likely to agree to it and I would never have even proposed it had circumstances not led to this being a clearly good option for our son.
  3. Working in a Creative Field - Film particularly - I remember being stuck in the 9-5 grind and realizing that in order to break out of it and find another field - a more creative one - that suited me better - I would have to work part time and begin to find other people whose hours were not confined to the 9-5 world. I ended up leaving my job for other reasons and when I found work again, it was only part time at the beginning. I ended up at a party and met some people who just happened to be in creative fields. We got along well and was invited to more gatherings and met others and eventually was asked to help with a film project - voila!
  4. Having a child - doctors said it was very unlikely and so I didn't make this a priority and yet I had always assumed I'd have children - I wanted them for sure. I accepted that I wouldn't likely have them. When I started dating the man I ended up having a child with - I made it clear to him that it was unlikely I could have children just to let him know and he said it wasn't a priority for him. I ended up pregnant and he was overjoyed - I was in shock and then overjoyed. 😉

There are more - I remember reminiscing about being in Europe and feeling I wanted to go there again. A few years later, I was there with my mom on a trip she suggested and paid for. This was not something that I anticipated at all - especially given her age etc.

Look for the things you have manifested/created in your life and use that as fuel to intentionally move forward in your life in the direction you choose.

reddit.com
u/MakingItRealNow — 20 hours ago

Overcoming Significant Resistance

Hello everyone!

What do you do when you have intrusive thoughts, or a pit in your stomach when trying to manifest something? How do you not get confused between "Ignore the 3D" and "Persist" but also "What you resist, keeps showing up?" Thank you for your help in resolving my confusion

reddit.com
u/BasedMaestro — 19 hours ago

From Visualization to Real-Life Coincidences: My Strange Manifestation Experiences

I work as a meteorologist (I do not work on TV). Last week, I tried to add a very famous journalist on LinkedIn, but she did not accept my invitation, so I removed it. Today, imagine this: she called the office phone at work, and I was the one who answered. I was very surprised because she had never called there before, especially since other colleagues usually communicate with people from TV channels.

Another strange situation happened to me last year. I started visualizing the son of a princess as a future husband for about two weeks, then I stopped and completely forgot about it. About nine months later, a man working for the same princess called to ask for more information about a meteorological situation.

Another weird situation happened last year as well. I wrote in my agenda that I would give a presentation in front of a minister, and imagine this: later, the minister gave our department a certificate to thank us for our work during several important meteorological situations.

As I seem to attract certain people or situations into my life, I wonder how I could imagine scenarios related to having more money, opportunities ? Please just give me beautifull scénarios!

reddit.com
u/SnooPets9757 — 1 day ago

Assumed a new reality/opportunity but in a slightly different way...

So I work at a grocery store, weekly pay not a hard job, not bad hourly pay. Im making more than a lot of people are getting paid at places like Walmart and such. However I used to make 500 a week or more, then my job started having labor issues. Now it's down to 300 a week at most and it's been kinda hard. So I started listening Abdullahs teachings on YouTube. It's an AI avatar of him, but the personality behind it speaks so well about loa I was intrigued. I already listened to Goddard in the past. I figured why not learn from the guy who taught him. So I applied the teaching of picturing the scene of having a different job with more pay, I felt the calm peace of having it already in my life. I entered the state of the wish fulfilled. However I didn't do it for 3 days in a row or even 3 months every night before bed. I didn't even return to the scene/feeling of the wish fulfilled very often. I went a lot of nights not thinking about the job. When I could remember, I put the feeling and the vivid imagination of me being at that job out there when I was able or felt like it. I also didn't just assume the job would come to me out of thin air, like Chris Angel showing up and blowing my mind with a mind blowing performance, ( Mind freak Lol). I put the feeling and vision out there but I also went and looked for the job afterwards. Call it inspired action or me just realizing it makes sense to do. I filled out applications and got the ball rolling. The job I was interested in I saw on indeed dot com. I called them and inquired about the position, found out who the hiring manager is. The lady told me during the initial call the hiring manager wouldn't be in til the next day. This is where it gets kinda wild. I was planning on calling and asking for the hiring manager the next day, the guy who is the hiring manager beat me to it and called me instead early in the morning the next day. The job includes not only more pay per hour but also instead of getting direct deposit pay weekly, This job pays daily, (maybe that's optional if you want more money per week or whatever.) I have an interview in a week from now and I am excited. Point is I don't think we have to assume things exactly the way Neville Goddard or even Abdullah says to. My bridge of incidents seemed to happen in the form of me just taking a minor action that was necessary to get to the next step, very simple very easy. I didn't have to feel it a thousand times or re enter the state several times a day. I visualized and felt it a hand full of times then decided to look for the job and bam it happened. I'm not even sure that was inspired action, I didn't feel inspired just felt it was necessary. Yes you do the enter the state of the wish fulfilled and visualize the wish fulfilled. After that it's ok to decide to take necessary action from a neutral state of being and you may just be surprised by the outcome. Hope this post helps somebody out who has been struggling to assume a new reality. I didn't even manifest this the job was already there, I just went to check on it. Which is funny because both Abdullah and Neville say not to check to see if your reality has changed, well I did and that's when it changed. 👍✌️

reddit.com
u/Blankness3333 — 21 hours ago

What lecture/chapter/book made it all click?

I found a hard copy of THE Neville anthology, The power of imagination, at Barnes and noble and ofc I had to grab it. I always read his stuff off of some random website I could find so having a hard copy was a necessity!!! Also having my own library is something I value and I know come 30 years time my kids will later pick up this book.

Anyways, as I’ve been rereading (it starts with the Your Faith is Your Fortune), I remember how influential the book itself was, but especially the 12 disciples chapter. And the beginning chapters where he literally ingrains the fact that YOU ARE GOD into your head and if you don’t get that you won’t get it. The instructions couldn’t be more clear than that.

So, I was wondering what piece of his work did it for everyone else?

reddit.com
u/Total-Badger-425 — 1 day ago
▲ 13 r/NevilleGoddard+1 crossposts

I manifesting my grades

I manifested my grades going up like stupidddd in the beginning of may my grades were not that good, I was failing 3 classes and had low Bs or Cs but I would listen to subs and tell myself my grades keep going up and that’s what happened.
My grade only went down once in one class but I persisted that I had a 90 in that class.

Opportunity’s proved to me that I was manifesting this because my teachers started dropping MANY MANY extra credit opportunities and one of my teachers even offered me to retake a test for the 3rd time when the max was 2. They even accepted very late work which is very hard to do especially at my school. Plus the additional curve on finals which was like 20 points (15 points more than last semester)

Now I passed with 4 90s, 2 high Bs and 1 C but I’m okay with the C since I failed the class last semester.
Anyways we out.

reddit.com
▲ 5 r/NevilleGoddard+2 crossposts

Was scared of losing him bcz he kept repeating he can't be with me

And what i was afraid of and what he kept repeating that when he meets someone he will give her a chance and test the relationship.

There is a part of me who isn't believing this happened, and there is a part of me who's heartbroken. Now what?

reddit.com

Persisting when the 3D circumstances look 'impossible' after major health battle

Hi everyone,

I’m seeking some deeper perspective on the Law when it comes to changing self-concept and persisting while the 3D reality seems heavily and the impossible structured against the desired state.

I recently came out of an intense battle with a severe illness. During my recovery now, a desire and vision for my life path opened up. My intuition tells me, without a shadow of a doubt, that this specific reality is where I belong. It feels like home. However, on paper in the 3D world, there are real massive barriers, and current roles create boundaries that seem unbreakable.

For months, I have lived in the end in my inner world. I naturally enjoy seeing this reality vividly in my mind, sensing it, and experiencing the wish fulfilled. I’ve witnessed incredible bridges of incidents where things I visualized manifested exactly in the 3D including people mirroring my actions and unexpected events lining up perfectly :)). I have even experienced that deep click of knowing it is done. Have vivid dreams about it from first person.

But lately, my old self is kicking in. Because my body is still physically recovering and rebuilding its strength, I sometimes experience a strong physical heaviness (fear and resistance) that triggers doubt. I let the emotions flow (crying, anger) and soothe myself, but my mind starts getting trapped in the how. I keep on persisting every time if I feel like this.. I acknowledge my feelings and tell myself it's done, it's here. It helps soothing me and then for example, I dream about it.

But I start wondering how the 3D could possibly rearrange itself when it looks this solid and involves fixed social structures. Old limiting beliefs pop up: feeling guilty, fearing other people's opinions, feeling unworthy, or wondering if this vision was 'just a lesson' to show me what I deserve?

Neville states that the 'how' is none of our business and that circumstances don't matter. But when the 3D structure is this loud and heavy, how do you fully shut out the physical senses to stay entirely true to the reality you desire?

I would love to hear from anyone who successfully navigated a highly structured, impossible 3D situation and how you stabilized your mental diet through the echo of fear.

Much love to you all!

reddit.com
u/Helpful_Ice_4736 — 1 day ago

How to deal with dark emotions

Dark emotions have a strong magnetism toward the old. They switch on the fearful thoughts that dominated our lives in the past.

Some techniques can work occasionally, but they won't on the long term, for the use of a technique pinpoints a problem. You're literally telling yourself "there's something wrong with this feeling, get rid of it".

If you're deep into the law of assumption & similar manifestation frameworks, you might accidentally develop a visceral rejection to anything that has to do with the old self. Something like that happened to me. An old mechanism labeled those uncomfortable emotions as "bad for the system". But it was like putting more wood into the fire.

Two weeks ago I realized that every emotion is a gift, and just like when you're gifted something - even if you don't like it - you must not doubt the loving nature from the act of giving. In other words, you must allow yourself to receive.

This is incredibly simple, but we tend to omit the value of the simplest things. What I did is just to feel it. To feel the pain. The sadness. The lack. Everything. In the moment I allowed myself to feel it, the negative emotions stopped having any effect whatsoever and they dissolved to leave space for more blissful states.

reddit.com
u/Ok_Reaction9357 — 1 day ago

Bible

Hello, good morning, afternoon, or evening everyone.

As many of you probably know, Neville used the Bible as a psychological manual of the human mind, so I collected part of his glossary and decided to study the Bible myself from that perspective.

(Honestly, this might be the only help you really need — no more AI, no more coaches charging $250 just to tell you what to do… and no more contradictions.)

In Mark 2:18–22 it says:

“No one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. New wine must be poured into new wineskins.”

For Neville, wine represented the creative power within you. So let’s look at it this way:

A lot of people make the mistake of trying to pour the “new wine” into the “old wineskin.” In other words, they go into their room, visualize for 10 minutes that their desire is already fulfilled (new wine), but the moment they open their eyes, they go back to being the same insecure, anxious person who checks their phone with fear, complains to friends, and feels like a victim of circumstances (old wineskin).

So what happens?

The pressure of doubt and the old identity eventually “bursts” the visualization. The attempt to manifest falls apart because the mental container is incapable of sustaining it.

That’s why the Bible says:

“New wine must be poured into new wineskins.”

You have to become a completely new container:

change your inner conversations,

stop identifying with rejection or lack,

and begin to walk, speak, and react to the world as if you were already the person who achieved the goal.

I invite all of you to do your own study as well. I assure you that by doing this, many of your doubts will answer themselves

reddit.com
u/NoEye6750 — 1 day ago

Setting things straight when it comes to "communicating with your person in the 3D"

I hear a lot of manifestors and coaches talk about how you "shouldn't" try to communicate with someone you are wanting a change from in the 3D and to only go inside. There are some big misunderstanding about this topic I see from people and I want to clear it up and bring some dang grounding to the manifestation community so that you don't feel like you have to operate in a way that feels almost inhuman and when you SHOULD and when you SHOULDN'T try to get what you want through participation in the 3D. There's multiple facets to this that I will go over.

The other day I casually clicked on a LoA short on YouTube and heard the coach say, "never communicate with what you want in the 3D to your person. Go inside and do it because otherwise all you'll get is ego ego ego."

And yes, that can be an experience when we believe the POWER comes from our interaction with the 3D, but how limiting of a statement is that? Someone can't possibly have healthy communication with a partner in the 3D? That's absolutely not true. People do it all the time. I'm sure YOU do it with certain people in your life and just not others.

We are living a human experience and most of us are going to desire to have a stereotypical, human relationship with someone. It is perfectly normal to desire healthy communication with your partner or a friend or whoever. And guess what, you can manifest just that. You can create the belief "me and my person always work out issues with healthy communication and understanding for each other." And if that's what you will believe, you will have that experience. You have every right to desire that experience.

Here's where manifestation comes in to play when it comes to communicating problems to people in the 3D:

1.) You keep hitting a roadblock with them in communication. Maybe they are doing something that is hurting you and you wish they'd do it differently. They keep disagreeing with you and not seeing your point of view. That's a signal that something inside of YOU is not allowing them to see your perspective or change their opinion to match yours, apologize, etc. You have two options. You can:

A.) Create the belief that they will just change the behavior, you don't have to say it to them, they are just now this person who does this thing in the way that you prefer.

B.) Create the belief that next time you guys talk, they will finally see your point of view, apologize, learn from their mistakes and make the change. Maybe this is the bridge of incidents for it to happen? Who knows?

I've personally done both ways and it all just depends on what am I desiring. Do I want validation from my person before the change happens? Or do I not care about validation and just would be satisfied with the change happening on its own. Its all up to you! You are ALLOWED to experience validation in your 3D. You dont ALWAYS have to be this detached wizard morphing your person to preform like a little puppet without saying a word. Don't limit yourself to having to have a conversation but dont feel like you're not allowed to have that experience either. You can have ANYTHING you want to experience and don't let anyone tell you that your desire is "limiting" because its not coming from some omnipotent POV. For me personally, I had a childhood filled with invalidation, so it FEELS very good to me to have validation in my experiences. I'm giving myself something that is important TO ME. Its no different that giving myself the experience of travel because I was often stuck inside a lot growing up.

**You are allowed to desire basic human experiences. Even as a manifestor.**

Maybe someday you'll move past wanting these things, maybe not, maybe a combination of experiences like me, who knows? Whatever you desire is right for you. 👍🏼

Here's the other time where manifestation comes in handy when you are wanting a change in your person behavior:

2.) Maybe its not something they are doing that bothers you because its "wrong" in your eyes but maybe it is a neutral "immutable" characteristic that they have that you want to change. We are conditioned to believe that certain things about people's personalities can't be changed and we shouldn't try to change them. Maybe they're gay and you wish they were straight. Maybe their favorite color is blue and you wish it was green. These are the times its really handy to go inside your imagination and change your idea of who they are so they can reflect what you want.

For example: Let's say your person hates the color blue but you love they way they look when they wear a blue shirt. Instead of trying to convince them to wear blue when they dont want to or instead of settling for them never wearing blue, just go inside your imagination and start imagining that they love the color blue and that they are wearing it. I literally did this the other day with my person when it came to the new color of car that they bought. I didn't have to say a word in my 3D. And now he owns a car in the color I imagined and loves it even though a week ago he was saying he hated cars that color.

I find most of the time for things I view as neutral opinions they have that I want changed, I dont really care for any validation, I just simply want the thing to change and so I will imagine it and then it will happen. If they do something I feel is wrong, that's usually when I want to experience validation in my 3D bc it feels good.

I see a lot of high and mighty people in this subreddit that almost get caught in this spiritual psychosis where they're like "if you're not coming from your highest godself, you are doing it wrong and your desire is wrong."

I always think to myself "wow what a boring life to only allow yourself to have things YOU deem as "pure and godly" enough yet here you are, frustrated, trying to convince people in the 3D on this subreddit that they are wrong instead of just going inside your imagination and believing they agree with your limited viewpoint."

Oh the irony....

No, you're allowed to have a cheeseburger. You don't always have to have some enlightened spiritual green power smoothy for your dinner. Thats the whole point of this life, to exepreince all different KINDS of things.

reddit.com
u/RachmaninovWasEmo — 2 days ago

do not argue the point, just accept it. See it as a state

This thing Neville said once that stuck with me. he said “do not argue the point, just accept it.”

and when i first heard that i didnt really get why that mattered.

but it clicked for me eventually.

i had this conversation with someone i know and they were feeling a lot of guilt about something in their life. like they kept replaying the situation and trying to figure out if they deserved it, if they caused it, if it meant something about them as a person.

and the more they tried to logically solve it the worse they felt.

and it made me think about what Neville meant.

because when we argue with our current reality or with a feeling… we're actually keeping it alive.

we keep analyzing it
explaining it
justifying it

and the mind kinda stays stuck there.

but the weird part is the moment you stop arguing and just accept that a state exists, something loosens.

like instead of
“why am i feeling this way”
“why did this happen”
“how to fix it”

you just go

ok… this is the state im in right now.

thats it.

and the moment you see it as just a state instead of some permanent thing about you… it becomes easier to move out of it.

I hope if im explaining this well tbh.

but it feels like a lot of the struggle comes from fighting the state instead of just recognizing it.

once you accept it… you're actually free to shift it.

curious if anyone else here had that moment where something simple Neville said suddenly made way more sense later on.

reddit.com
u/Latter_Cause1159 — 2 days ago

The more I look into Cool Wisdom Book's "research" on Abdullah, the more I call BS!

I made a post the other day stating my most glaring issues with Cool Wisdom Book's (CWB) and their followers, like Brian Scott on YouTube, claiming as fact that Modeste Guillaume (one of his many many "names") was Neville's cherished mentor, Abdullah.

I challenge myself to dig deeper, even if I have suspicion that something is BS, so I've been looking more into CWB's "research" and it has only deepened my conviction that they are trying to force fit this Guillaume dude to be Neville's Ab. That way, they can brag about solving the puzzle and share alleged pictures of THE Abdullah. They know that Neville's fans and followers have been yearning to learn more and see pictures of the 89 year old Ethiopian mystic that shut the door on Neville to open him up to the world of inner secrets. Funny enough, those are 2 things (his age and place of birth) that don't align with their "research".

Those were my 2 biggest issues with this "research"; Modeste Guillaume was clearly NOT 89 years old around 1930 and he was clearly NOT Ethiopian. Those are 2 things that Neville very clearly stated on several occasions. In 1964, he even mentioned that Ab had gone back to Ethiopia in 1957 and he confirmed his age again. What makes me further question their "research" is how condescending and dismissive they are when things don't line up. For instance CWB flat out dismisses Neville's recollection of his last encounter with Abdullah, by acting as if you'd have to be a fool to take him at his word... come on guys, are you just "supposed to believe" everything Neville said? ("Are we supposed to believe a 113-year-old man was hopping on a plane to Ethiopia in 1957?)"

As I look deeper, I see more glaring things that don't line up for me. One pic on the CWB site is an ad from 1928 promoting an inter-faith meeting that included Swami Yogananda. On the panel was a G. M. Ahmad-Abdoullah (who they allege is Abdullah) who was there to speak from an Islamic perspective. According to the article (which I did find and is linked below), this gentleman claimed that "The Koran is the greatest book teaching brotherly love,"... LOL. This is supposed to be the same Ethiopian Jew that taught Neville the secrets of the Bible?

https://www.nytimes.com/1928/12/18/archives/lifes-meaning-viewed-by-four-great-faiths-christian-jewish.html

Another thing that stands out is the many distinct names this Guillaume guy allegedly presented himself as (see below for a list from CWB's site). Yet, Neville only referred to the man who he revered as his sole teacher by 1 SINGLE name, Abdullah...

Abdullah’s aliases & spellings we’ve seen in the papers:

A. H. Le-Amshi / Leamshi
Abd’allah Halladba Leamshi
Halladba / Halladra
Abd’allah Hallabaleamshi
Abd’llah / Abda’llah
Abdallah / Abdoullah
G. N. Abdallah
Dr. G. M. Abdoullah (also G. M. Abdaullah)
G. Mahmud A. Abdoullah
G. Mahmud Ahmad Abdullah (normalized)
G. Madrud Ahmad Abdoullah
G. Ahmad Abdoullah
Idsigma A. Gsolamanusabda (ceremonial/garbled string)
G. M. Abda’llah ibn Ghaleym (Ghalym) ibn Allah
M. Abdallah Guillaume / Dr. Modeste Abda’llah Guillaume / Abda’llah Guillaume
Abda’llah Ben

One of the more concerning things about this is how information and misinformation spreads quickly on the internet. Right now, if you run a Google or AI search for Abdullah, Modeste Guillaume, or G.M. Ahmad-Abdoullah, it will link them all together as if this is all verified fact. The problem is that it all links back to Cool Wisdom Books and no where else. I searched through historic newspapers and I cannot find the source material for any of this "research".... A LOT of it does not line up so I call BS solely for the fact that CWB is pushing this as verified fact and not a theory.

u/Here_for_the_plot — 2 days ago