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Would You Guys Watch a Spider-Man & Punisher Movie Where Spider-Man Dies?

ok so it starts with a cold open of kraven and he isnt like a traditional comic kraven eh is more modern sand we see he is planning to target elites while he sharpens his knives and monologues about his hutn and we pan over to a newspaper clipping of spiderman

the title card :SPIDER-MAN & THE PUNISHER

then we start the actual movie with peter swinging to school being like shit imma be late and we cut through peters happy life to franks dark one. we see peter is dating mj, best frineds with harry, gwen, and ned, lives with may etc, and we see frank is dark and alone and constatnly on mission to kill people.
peter tried to write somehting for the bugle that acyally defends punsiher but jonah refuses and tells peter he might be as crazy as spiderman
during kravens first attack they cross paths and immidiatly clash on the whole killng aspect
for the rest fo act 1 and most fo ac t 2 they reluctantly work together whiel fighting kravena dn fighting a lot
oh i forgot to mentuion matt murdock has a small part at the beggining just to establish he exists in this universe

well absically after a big thing that goes wrong peter and frank have an absolutley massive fight and frank tells peter to leave and peter decides to go after kraven himself
so peter goes to fight kraven and kraven beats the shit out of him and he unmasks him
he is like "your city whorships a child"?
then frank arrives and he starts fighting kraven and he is also losing but then boom a baton comes crashing in and daredevil arrives and he is able to get peter out of there and enoguh time for frank to get himself out and he brings them to a rooftop
he pulls frank aside and says that peter believs in him and frank shoudlnt waste it
matt then leaves saying he has stuff and he wishes he could help more
frank and peter have a bonding conversation about a bunch of stuff and how peter is too young for this and peter talks about uncle ben and frank says peter reminds him of his son
they begin to bond and work together more after that
and they basically fight kraven more thru act 3 but it all culminates when kraven takes over a hotel which had a massive like gala or smth in it and frank and peter arrive to fight.
they go in and they save everyone but theyre like this is too easy and thats because it was kravens plan all along

kraven comes out of nowhere and attacks and its really brutal this time
they have a massive fight and kraven is really holding his own throughout the fight and he even knocks down frank and he gets on top of peter
kraven gets on top of peter and he starts punching him and beating him and then he notices the web shooters and he just starts punching peters wrists and he breaks the web shooters and peter wrists and peter is like fucked up

then frank gets back up and has a 1v1 with kraven where in the fight kraven drops a knife but he kicks frank back and takes a massive knife and hurls it right at him
peter notices before frank does. he cant use his web shooters to deflect it because theyre broken and then jumps in front of it and takes the blade right to his chest
frank is like NOOO and he engages in a massive ragefulled fight against kraven where in the end he picks up the knife kraven dropped earlier and stabs him with it
kraven says ":finally. the hunt ends" as he dies
frank rushes over to peter where he holds him
peter is like "you were right frank. the world sucks" and he says to tell aunt may he was ok and stuff and then he says "well frank guess youre gonna have to be the friendly neighborhood punsiher now" and that makes frank laugh through his tears and peter is like "i finally made you laugh" and then right before he dies he says that he believs in frank and frank just needs to believe in himself or smth less cringe and then he dies in franks arms
frank walks out of the building holding peters body, full of sobbing.
a police guy goes to arrest frank but he sees what happened and he backs off just giving frank a nod
frank walks down the street to an ambulance and the people there follow him kinda like a funeral procession
he lays peter down on a stretcher and covers him with a sheet but takes his mask first
we then see everyone finding out
mj, harry, ned, and gwen are all together and they get the news report and it breaks them
jjj is at his desk at the bugle and he is like "parker..." before shedding a tear
we see flash thompson getting the report on his phone and being in disbelief and he cries
and lastly we see aunt may, at her house, when a cop shows up outside and we see her face as she finds out
we see the next day
there is a citywide memorial for peter
harry speaks there about how peter would have wanted everyone there to be doing something productive instead of wasting their time on him
we see jjj's memorial to peter saying he was always late and he made terrible coffee but he loved that kid and he was wrong about spiderman
we then see peter's funeral
its a private small thing
may, mj, harry, ned, and gwen are at the front

tony stark and bruce banner stand off to the side
johnny storm is with harry
matt murdock stands alone
he notices frank castle staring afar at a tree
he goes over to him. he says that frank should come closer and they talk and may notices
she asks matt to give them a minute and she tells frank how she does not have any blame for him and she really wants him to know
frank tells her what peter said about friendly neighborhood punsiher and she actually laughs through her tears
mj comes over too

frank is expecting her to yell or hit him but she just hugs him
she tells him that peter loved him and the night before he died they were on the phone for hours and he talked about how frank needs to see the good in himself

it ends with frank pulling out peters mask and saying it should be buried with him and they put it on his coffin
last shot is peters gravestone: "Peter Parker
Son Nephew Friend
HERO"
and roll credits

u/TranslatorOk2501 — 3 days ago
▲ 119 r/Defenders

I’m going through post daredevil and post punisher depression

I just finished punisher season 2 as DDBA is finishing and I’m sad it’s over. I’ve dreamed about both shows for the past few nights. help

u/TranslatorOk2501 — 11 days ago

I want foggy to come back but i feel like it would cheapen the story if he was just in witness protection the whole time. what do you think?

u/TranslatorOk2501 — 15 days ago

He felt a bit wasted this season and i really hope he returns in either his own project or in somehting like season 3

u/TranslatorOk2501 — 16 days ago